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No, thats crap.

What about it isn't town? You really need to stop with the unsubstantiated reads.

The fact that I called out most-likely to be scum Demon, which you yourself even pointed out,

GreyIce wrote: Don't love DH at the moment,

(and possibly Grey buddy. I'm still not buying your 'gambit') which doesn't sit well with you?

GreyICE wrote:That post above

No way in *smurftown* town wrote that.

'kay?

Shut up.

GreyICE wrote:Oh my god.

Amrun is confirmed scum.

MoI make an argument I'm too lazy.

No, I’ve stopped doing Freelance case work for others. I will look through Amrun's ISO today. Groovy!

GreyICE wrote:Step 1:buy a dartboard...

No, that would be more accurate than Empking’s reads normally.

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Amrun wrote:I am happier to see Vi actually doing something now - as SpyreX said, I think she is showing some "bite" now, which appeases a great deal of the problem I had with her to begin with.

Let me see …

Vi gets called out on ‘back-seating’ eaerly in the thread in a scummy manner.
Vi responds by upping activity and reads and saying “Now I will play to my Town manner. It was all a gambit before …”
Amrun sees this as Town behavior?

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Vi wrote:I found it much more convenient as scum to avoid people like GreyICE and MoI.

Really? Then explain why Scum-Vi in Defcon 3.0 went out of the way to antagonize MoI-Town when all it did was earn you a correct scum read by me there?

Vi wrote:I'm not getting lynched Today. This isn't a declaration or a boast, it's a simple statement of fact. I don't care if Pikachu and Death Clan and Godzilla glue their votes to me (as if they haven't); there aren't six other people who are going to join them after I pretty much jettisoned every Town tell I have.

This is why Vi needs deep fried in crispy lynch goodness.

“I came under fire for scummy play so I used all my normal Towntells”. If you know they are Towntells then they stop being Towntells when you actively refer to them as such.

Kythanksbye.

Vi wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think RECK has ever voted for me in any game in the past.

Yeah, here’s a pile of nothing! What does someone not voting for you in past games have to do with anything, even the price of tea in China?

Vi wrote:So I'm looking at the scumlist I posted above, which I think most people agree with. Now I'm looking at this scumlist. Now I'm looking at my scumlistNOW BACK TO THIS. Sadly, SpyreX's scumlist doesn't look like mine, but if he stopped defending probscum and drew a Town Role PM, his scumlist could look like mine. In particular, I'm really not sure what that offer to "lock down DH" is supposed to be.

1. Did you get hit in the head with a bat recently Vi? Locking down DH is specifically directing his tracking to test him Night 1. It couldn’t be more clear.
2. Actually looking at his “Launch into the Sun” list (which isn’t a scum-list but a list of people the game would be better of without, nice strawman) the only person I disagree with is GreyICE. Hindu is boardering on scummy uselessness hiding behind his so called role-playing. Toasty (who calls SDC Town BTW, what do you think of that?) and Irony are non-perfomers who absolutely need a bullet ASAP. You are scumtastic and Nik is rising up my ladder. Nothing inherently odd about that list.

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Yami wrote:There is a case in sight.
So Moi, what do YOU think of them?

Point to it. Unless it is more than “AHHHH SDC NEVER PLAYS THIS WAY” don’t expect me to pay any attention.

SDC gets Town points for me for being on the same wavelength as me re: Vi.
SDC gets Scum points for Reck’s ‘CLAIM’ given how much he thinks I’m a crap player who he wouldn’t trust.

I haven’t seen the signs of obv-scum Spyrex that I have seen before in that head’s posts.

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Hindu wrote:SDC's lurking and general not participating in the game has now reached the point where they're not just scummy but obviously scummy.

Um, whut? How in any way can you assess they are lurking and not participating in the game? If this is stupid ass role-playing then ditch it because it makes you look scummy as hell.

Unless, of course, your passive requires you to make no sense.

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Candle wrote:I'm not going to just keep wagoning people to claims until we hit a vanilla or move of people when I think they are fakeclaiming.

Serious question – do you think, given the time it took to draw up the roles, that there are ANY Vanilla in this setup?

Candle wrote:meh, get over yourself. And on the Demon front, DH has posted upwards of 45 times all over the site since the last time he posted here for his weak claim. He is obviously dodging this game. Of course I want DH dead, as that is the most likely player in the game right now to flip scum.

Normally I’d be with you 100% but I have direct knowledge that this is NOT a scum-tell for DH. Sigh.

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AGM wrote:MoI can verify this if you like - I first proposed the strategy to him in our hydra QT for [REDACTED].

He’s absolutely being truthful with this statement. Doesn’t mean crap for alignment but is an accurate portrayal of events.

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Nik wrote:Vi, would you be satisfied if we lynch Amrun today and have MoI inspect AGM tonight? The second person can be, say, LLD, to give us a more conclusive result on AGM.

Oh now so we are directing my Night action?

Don’t think so …

– are you voteless the entire game or just Day 1 or some combination of other possibilities?

Nik wrote:You know, at this rate we're probably going to end up nolynching if AGM doesn't use his ability ANYWAY.

Subtle push to end the day with a Treestump as opposed to lynching scum when we have 10 days left? Scumtastic

Vi, My last post in this thread was 20 hours ago. For the majority of that time, I was sleeping. For the rest, I was on the phone.

Please tell me under what definition that becomes "lurking." Even if it was, Toasty and Irony get paSses for lurking and I get lynched for it?

Candle Jack, I noticed you saying you had a question for me but I forget what it was. Ask again, please.

DemonHybrid's avoidance of this thread has reached critical mass. He needs to post.

@MoI: V/LA generally means that I DONT HAVE TIME TO POST. To think I called DH for attacking you for similar reasons. Sheesh.So all you get is one-liners, kay?

Amrun, I'm not voting you for lurking.

Meransiel has been added to my town list.

ToastyToast wrote:@MoI: V/LA generally means that I DONT HAVE TIME TO POST. To think I called DH for attacking you for similar reasons. Sheesh.So all you get is one-liners, kay?

Here's the thing ... you've been V/LA for pretty much the whole Day. You may not have time. I undestand that. Your slot would be better served by having someone who can actively contribute in it, IMO.

So yes, you get labelled as a non-contributor. When is your V/LA supposed to end again? I forget?

MoI 577 wrote:Vi responds by upping activity and reads and saying “Now I will play to my Town manner. It was all a gambit before …”

I said no such thing about it being a gambit.

MoI 577 wrote:If you know they are Towntells then they stop being Towntells when you actively refer to them as such.

Quite the contrary. I know what I can and can't do as scum.

MoI 577 wrote:1. Did you get hit in the head with a bat recently Vi? Locking down DH is specifically directing his tracking to test him Night 1. It couldn’t be more clear.

And that proves nothing significant. Nobody is claiming DH is not a Tracker.

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Amrun 578 wrote:Vi, My last post in this thread was 20 hours ago. For the majority of that time, I was sleeping. For the rest, I was on the phone.

Please tell me under what definition that becomes "lurking."

When I see you posting in other threads, but not this one, when the important stuff you just left is still developing.

What's the case on Amrun?

~C

Why are we not killing CJ?

Irony wrote:What's the case on Amrun?

~C

Riding easy wagons until they claim or it no longer becomes plausible for her to say she believes the wagonee is scum.

CJ 584 wrote:Why are we not killing CJ?

Why should we?

Candle Jack wrote:No, thats crap.

What about it isn't town? You really need to stop with the unsubstantiated reads.

The fact that I called out most-likely to be scum Demon, which you yourself even pointed out,

GreyIce wrote: Don't love DH at the moment,

(and possibly Grey buddy. I'm still not buying your 'gambit') which doesn't sit well with you?

No, the fact THAT YOU'RE SCUM doesn't sit well with me.

You sitting there and pitching a fit that I haven't told you how I figured you out just amuses me.

Vi, MoI, LLD, we need an alliance, there's three categories right now.

Town
Lurkers
Scum

#1 and #3 are around the same size, which means we neeeeed to be working together. Whadda ya say?

PEDIT: He's OBVIOUSLY SCUM, Vi, that's why!

@MoI: The game beginning and my V/LA beginning at the same time is an unfortunate coincidence, but its not like I can control that.
It ends on Saturday.

However, I HAVE read the game and my vote is staying on Amrun.

ToastyToast wrote:Meransiel has been added to my town list.

Well thank you etc. but why?

Also, be warned, it's not very valuable. As I said, I WILL die tonight no matter what.

Vi, That's bullshit. I posted in at least one other thread, the game I'm modding, but -km I a lot of games and sometimes one needs attention over the other. 20 hours is not lurking.

Also, in no way am I riding easy wagons. I believe I was the first vote on you and one of the first to express suspicion. Also, it is not untenable for me to continue my scumread on you. You seem to think a lot of people have townreads on you, but they do not. GreyICE does and that's all I can think of off of the top of my head. Several players are still convinced you are scum.

If I were scum pitbulling, I had no reason to unvote. Zero.

So let me get this straight.
*"Vi sounds very Town"
*"Vi sounds aggressively wrong"
*"Therefore being aggressively wrong overrides the Town read and I want them to die"
This is coming from a scum mindset. There's a much easier-to-reach conclusion based on the first two points that I know SpyreX knows about.

I don't know how I missed it before but SpyreX immediately going from accusing me of not putting NIXON on the Town side of "NO POSTS" to "I like Nixon" in the span of four lines needs one of Cyberbob's trollpics.

468 feels genuine. As in genuinely angry. Not as in OHHH MAN GENUINE TOWN UP INS. Considering it'd be HARDER (but not impossible) to get that angry as scum it gave me pause.

And yea, sometimes all it takes is 4 lines to get a good feel. What it doesn't take is how Nixon when he had a SINGLE POST to be not NO POSTS. Because he never was.

When you vote for SDC you're voting for someone who thinks this is a great scumlist.

Yep. OHH NO.

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#573 is right. Plain and simple. I'd swing a DH lynch far before an Amrun lynch.

However, I still want Vi dead as dead can gets. Watching the "OHH NO 1v1 you're likely town GLARBLEBLARH vote" is amazing. Watching Hindu SAY I AM LURKING and still no one even raises an eyebrow is tech.

Seriously I would happily get lynched today if it meant my "terrible scumlist" ate death in rapid succession. Although Reck has said Nik town, I'm still not seeing it but he is a backseat to Vi, Hindu and GI in the actually playing like scum and Toasty and Irony for doing nothing. DH obviously shouldn't reach too long but thats how it goes.

Guys, seriously, why are you so convinced that SDC is scum? I don't buy it.

Vi wrote:

Irony wrote:What's the case on Amrun?

~C

I have a secret scum read, and I don't have to tell you if I don't want to. Nyeah.

Riding easy wagons until they claim or it no longer becomes plausible for her to say she believes the wagonee is scum.

CJ 584 wrote:Why are we not killing CJ?

Why should we?

Oh god. That's really scummy.



P-Edit: I think SDC is town.

~C

Which reminds me, is anyone willing to compile a list of claims? I've been meaning to post a list of reads, so that'll make sure I didn't miss any.

@meran: Not only are the criticisms of your play bad, you simply haven't done anything that strikes me as scummy.

Meransiel wrote:Guys, seriously, why are you so convinced that SDC is scum? I don't buy it.

Some of us have played with SDC enough to read their alignment from just a few posts.

Go read our ISO.
There is more than enough reasoning to be found in there as to why SDC is confirmed obvscum.

HINDU IF SDC DOESN'T GET LYNCHED, WE EXPECT THEM DEAD COME DAWN.

Look at the three of them (I'm not including Yami because any boat needs a cabin boy)

Vi's sputtering rage and literally said "I'm DROPPIN MA TOWNTELLS YO"
Hindu is actively making shit up and ohh BTW DID YA KNOW HE WAS A VIG *wink*
GI forgot CHESSKID is actually pretty alright at this game and opted to use it as a cover for playing terrible.

If dying made THEM get dead I'd be really happy. If it took out Irony and Toasty I'd be ecstatic.

Hmm. Irony, are you thinking what I'm thinking?

What would this be, Toast?

~C

Okay, my town reads all want to wagon different scum reads of mine.

Can y'all just make up your minds before we go lynch town as a compromise like always seems to happen?

Vi wrote:I said no such thing about it being a gambit.

Oh, you didn’t call it a gambit directly. You said something to the effect of “I’m not playing to my Town meta. Same thing with different text. Nice try.

Vi wrote:Quite the contrary. I know what I can and can't do as scum.

Mhahahahah Vi you kill me. I can’t play this way as scum? Yeah, that’s for people like Shotty and Chesskid. It’s not for Vi, supreme player of Mafia!!!

Vi wrote:And that proves nothing significant. Nobody is claiming DH is not a Tracker.

Yeah but if he can’t prove his ability he hangs as a liar. If he can we judge going forward based on all kinds of other factors.

I note you dodged the question about why you went out of the way to antagonize me in Defcon 3.0. Is it because you couldn’t come up with a viable answer that didn’t contradict the crap you were flowing?

– Hey in looking through your ISO I see you dropped a vote on me for obv-crap reasoning and then proceeded to ignore my slot (no pressuring with questions or anything else) until you were forced to comment by my claim. Why was that? Riding a wagon until the claim made it no longer plausible you say?


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GreyICE wrote:Vi, MoI, LLD, we need an alliance, there's three categories right now.

Town
Lurkers
Scum

#1 and #3 are around the same size, which means we neeeeed to be working together. Whadda ya say?

So you expect me to join forces with both Vi and LLD who derped it up with their terrible, terrible attack on me early? Exclude one or the other so I have have faith that it is a Town majority and I’m game.