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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:46 pm
by Umbrage
↑ DrippingGoofball wrote:Umbrage is scum, he accused me on OMGUS'ing when he wasn't voting me, and hadn't posted today yet.
I am also scum because I wear plaid with stripes, enjoy ragtime music, and eat zucchini bread.
OH WAIT NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE SCUMTELLS
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:34 pm
by Amrun
↑ Amrun wrote:Why is omgus a scumtell in this situation?
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:07 pm
by imaginality
Vote: Internet Stranger
Pushing for EK to reveal the role/night action info was scummy.
Mist Beauty deserves votes too for her doc rolefishing, but there's already some votes on IS, so I'll add to his wagon.
Most likely DGB's role is a red herring role that does nothing relevant, like Pokerface's role was in the Monty Python game. However if it's an anti-town role, cult leader fits best with the fact EK could choose whether to eat the eggs or not: it could be the type of cult that's able to either recruit or kill. (I.e. maybe if EK had turned down the date, she would've been killed.)
@scooby, re. your questions to me on D1, since you still want me to answer them:
"Why can't I be town happy to have found something I can legitimately challenge Umbrage about?" - Your abrupt demand sounded out of character, like you wanted to draw attention to your post by being abrasively demanding to show you were doing something.
"Does this mean that you disagree with Umbrage about his attack against me?" - Yes, I don't think using A/B logic is scummy, I've seen it from both scum and town. Doesn't mean I agree with your specific use of it though.
@all: sorry, started a new job this week with no internet access. Now I've got my sleep patterns organised, I should be posting daily from here on.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:29 am
by Lord Gurgi
Imaginality, your defense of DGB is that she might be CL? I think the IS case is solid, and the way that EK and DGB have had each others backs seems too complete for 'hey I got a night action from you'. This is the roleblocker argument all over again. I also don't like the spin of the defense on the other end, as well as how quickly they are reorienting themselves from those they were screaming bloody murder for a second ago. This is full on OMGUS in the third degree.
Proxy Vote: IS
. I hope you still allow that, shaft.ed.
Also sorry for not being around, I'm under the weather and Arabic is destroying me.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:00 am
by shaft.ed
what do you mean by proxy vote?
I'll count that as a vote, but automated movements aren't going to happen
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:09 am
by Porochaz
This whole role speculation is dumb from both sides and not cool in the first place. The CL stuff is ridiculous to be talking about and do you really think she would breadcrumb that much a cult recruiter role. However I don't know how gurgi came to the conclusion he did about 577. Imaginality's post is bad but Lord Gurgi's conclusions because of it are terrible.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:37 am
by VP Baltar
↑ Lord Gurgi wrote:This is the roleblocker argument all over again.
huh?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:14 am
by elvis_knits
IS NEEDS TO DIE A FIERY DEATH
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:18 am
by elvis_knits
↑ Internet Stranger wrote:And to further spam the thread, I understand why Elvis is so passionate about defending the chicken lady now. But Elvis is still wrong. Unless she is willing to admit that her character is male and swears that nothing happened to her, then im convinced that this is how its being played out.
Them eggs are the devil!
MY CHARACTER IS MALE YOU EXPLETIVE.
I ATE THE OMELET.
I AM ALIVE.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:25 am
by elvis_knits
↑ Amrun wrote:Why can't the egg do nothing and just be a red herring of sorts?
I do think it's possible she is seeking a particular male character, but not necessarily likely. Either way, I see it unlikely to be a scum role, as she is unlikely to be able to submit kills and give eggs on the same night, which would out her easily later on in the game. And obviously, this is why she needs to be a town read. If you want to stick a "for now" on it, go ahead, but instead we ought to just claim whomever gets the egg each day and if we get down to one scum and the egg suddenly stops going around... welp.
This is required reading.
imaginality wrote:Most likely DGB's role is a red herring role that does nothing relevant, like Pokerface's role was in the Monty Python game.
Also this.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:28 am
by Lurconis
Gurgi your post supports is then you vote him?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:29 am
by vollkan
↑ Internet Stranger wrote:Whos putting down who here, Elvis? You and the DBGScum are the ones ignoring my case. You and DBGScum are off on some random tangent and ignoring my points on DBGScum simply because you dont want to face them. Im playing mafia and making solid mafia points, youre going the ad hominem route and advocating some Femme Club scene.
So whos fooling who here?
@IS: In a list of numbered points, what are your amazing argument/s against DGB? Or is this just your bog-standard rhetoric outstripping reality?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:32 am
by Lurconis
VOTE: is
Still prefer gurgi but we can get his partner first
-phone
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:39 am
by elvis_knits
Anyway, I apologize if I did the wrong thing revealing this information. (I especially apologize to DGB, since it's about her). But I could see IS posting walls and walls for pages and pages, and I figured it would be a waste of time for everybody when I could just put an end to it.
I think IS and Umbrage are being ridiculously scummy, scrambling around trying to find any convoluted way to make a theory where DGB could be scum. Talk about conspiracy theories!! My reasoning for finding her town is air-tight. I fucking outed her role, outed her night action, gave you the result of her night action, and still, it's not good enough. IS has to fish for the gender of MY character too.
And this... IS COMPLETE SHIT:
↑ Umbrage wrote:
GIVE ONE NON-META REASON WHY DGB IS TOWN, OR SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH.
LET'S JUST FORGET FOR A MINUTE THAT I ALREADY PROVED SHE'S TOWN.
NOBODY HAS TO PROVE THAT SOMEBODY IS TOWN.
IF YOU THINK SHE'S SCUM,
THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU
TO DO SO, AND EVERYBODY THINKS YOUR CASE IS SHIT.
It is a scum tactic to call somebody scum and then turn the tables on people who don't agree and go "well, prove she's town!!!"
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:43 am
by elvis_knits
↑ Lord Gurgi wrote:Imaginality, your defense of DGB is that she might be CL? I think the IS case is solid, and the way that EK and DGB have had each others backs seems too complete for 'hey I got a night action from you'. This is the roleblocker argument all over again. I also don't like the spin of the defense on the other end, as well as how quickly they are reorienting themselves from those they were screaming bloody murder for a second ago. This is full on OMGUS in the third degree.
Proxy Vote: IS
. I hope you still allow that, shaft.ed.
Also sorry for not being around, I'm under the weather and Arabic is destroying me.
Actually, I think LG is saying he thinks me and DGB are scum together and that he is giving his vote to IS, not voting IS.
WTF
LG NEEDS TO DIE TOO.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:57 am
by Lurconis
Thanks for clarifying
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:01 am
by shaft.ed
Good idea faggot Vote Count
Internet Stranger
(5) elvis_knits, DrippingGoofball, imaginality, Lord Gurgi, Lurconis
Umbrage
(2) Porochaz, scooby
DrippingGoofball
(2) Internet Stranger, SpyreX
Untrod Tripod
(1) VP Baltar
scooby
(1) Umbrage
Lurconis
(1) Amrun
Not Voting: MrBuddyLee, Untrod Tripod, Medicated Lain, vollkan, Mist Beauty, Mysterio
With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch or 9 to No Lynch
Untrod Tripod and Mysterio are getting prodded
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:13 am
by VP Baltar
Hey Umbrage, explain to me why you've been railing against DGB for 90 percent of thee day but your vote hasn't moved from scooby "for stuff from yesterday"?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:14 am
by VP Baltar
↑ shaft.ed wrote:Untrod Tripod ... getting prodded
That's mod confirmed scum basically.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:58 am
by Porochaz
Shaft.ed, I think LG was giving his vote to IS not actually voting for him.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:22 am
by scooby
There are so many things wrong with the last pages that I don't even know where to begin.
First, IS is retarded but town. Scum would already know who died N1. Wasting your entrance post, yeah that one that makes people either love you or hate you, in making cases against dead townies does not mean you are scum trying to look active. It means you are an idiot that forgot to read night results when you started reading. Yeah, this could be some sort of gambit, but I don't see the necesity. It's just stupidity in his pure form.
Further posts ciment this thought. No scum in his right mind would openly out a power role the way IS did. It just brings so many negative attention (as this wagon proves). So this wagon needs to die pronto.
Speaking of the claim, it's nuller than null. I still hate DGB and I don't buy her "lol scooby is town" after all she said against me day 1, but I'm willing to give her a pass until the omeletts are changed with kills.
Second, people who need to die are still: Umbrage, Lurconis, Volkan, UT and LordGurgi.
I'm keeping my vote on Umbrage. That wagon shouldn't have died and should come back now.
Finally, while I hate Gurgi and while he needs to die a slow death, iirc proxy vote means "giving my vote to IS" and not "vote:IS" so those recent attacks are crap as well.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:23 am
by scooby
↑ elvis_knits wrote: ↑ Lord Gurgi wrote:Imaginality, your defense of DGB is that she might be CL? I think the IS case is solid, and the way that EK and DGB have had each others backs seems too complete for 'hey I got a night action from you'. This is the roleblocker argument all over again. I also don't like the spin of the defense on the other end, as well as how quickly they are reorienting themselves from those they were screaming bloody murder for a second ago. This is full on OMGUS in the third degree.
Proxy Vote: IS
. I hope you still allow that, shaft.ed.
Also sorry for not being around, I'm under the weather and Arabic is destroying me.
Actually, I think LG is saying he thinks me and DGB are scum together and that he is giving his vote to IS, not voting IS.
WTF
LG NEEDS TO DIE TOO.
I loled.
And then I agreed.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:38 am
by Internet Stranger
↑ elvis_knits wrote: ↑ Internet Stranger wrote:And to further spam the thread, I understand why Elvis is so passionate about defending the chicken lady now. But Elvis is still wrong. Unless she is willing to admit that her character is male and swears that nothing happened to her, then im convinced that this is how its being played out.
Them eggs are the devil!
MY CHARACTER IS MALE YOU EXPLETIVE.
I ATE THE OMELET.
I AM ALIVE.
FINE!
This is all I needed to hear. I now have no clue what the fuck the eggs do now. The only last conspiracy is that Elvis is in on it with DBG, but even I wont pursue that for now. Even with the blatant OMGUS strategy DBG likes to employ.
Im not looking to out power roles. Im SCUMHUNTING. DBG looked like scum to me, I went after her. She clucked clucked away her role already, so she WANTED to be outed anyways. And Elvis did all that revealing shit, dont let the fairy princess blame it on me. All I did was put pressure on who I thought was scum. You know, what we are all supposed to be doing.
So suddenly that makes me scum? That hilarious.
Imaginality is blatantly bandwagon jumping.
I dont want Gurgi's vote. Hell I dont even know how that can be allowed.
I do have a second suspect that I will throw out there now.
Unvote: DBG
Vote: Vollkan
The fact that Vollkan is trying to act all inquisitive while at the same time accusatory while at the same time not hopping on the wagon reeks of scum not wanting to jump on my blatantly townie wagon in order to look good.
I do have a bigger case on him, I just have to go put it together later.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:06 am
by shaft.ed
I don't know about proxy votes, but typing this sequence without an "un" infront of it will get your vote cast for future reference
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:17 am
by Internet Stranger
As far as Vollkan:
1) Went after Scooby with really crappy reasoning
2) Remained "skeptical" on the pops wagon and started hovering
2a) Is doing the same on my wagon. Vollkan is still hovering.
Vollkan is clearly trying to look committed by being non-committal. Meaning he deliberates on wagons and throws all the points out there but never votes for them. Notice how he pegged a vote on Scooby, gave a realy craptastic reason for it but yet remained active all day and threaded water with the pops wagon.
This looks like scum thats trying to avoid getting sucked up into vote counts.
Vollkan is a perfect middle of the ground scum.