MGS Mafia: Mini 1273 - Over

[MagnaofIllusion]

?Mafia can only talk in the thread in the day? No? What are you asking?

And your justification for this assumption is?

There is the possibility of Daytalk for the Mafia. It's not unusual or unheard of here on MS.

[Hiraki]

Oh yeah, how could he have coached marshall? Marshall claimed on day 1. there isnt any platform for them to talk.

Please explain how you know there isn't a platform for the Mafia to talk during the Day.

?Mafia can only talk in the thread in the day? No? What are you asking?

QT Day talk

It's becoming quite common now-a-days.

Not sure why.

[enomis]

Seriously, there is a daytalk? WTF? Sorry, i didnt know that.

[Faraday]

Day 2, Votecount 6

themarshall (3) - Hiraki, enomis, Fate[/b]
GreyICE (1) - MagnaofIllusion
MagnaofIllusion (2) -SpyreX, GreyICE
ArorusVox (2) - Kise, mikemike778

Not voting: (2)

- themarshall, AurorusVox

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

• Day 2 deadline:
  2nd of December at 5:30am GMT (Or 12:30 AM EST?)
  
• Day 2 Countdown:
  (expired on 2011-12-02 01:30:19)
  
• themarshall is being prodded

[Hiraki]

Seriously, there is a daytalk? WTF? Sorry, i didnt know that.

It's not confirmed, and it would be against flavor here but ultimately possible.

[enomis]

Seriously, there is a daytalk? WTF? Sorry, i didnt know that.

It's not confirmed, and it would be against flavor here but ultimately possible.

ok.


@AurorousVox: I thought you had GreyIce and your second top scumread to SDC. Now SDC is vig, i dont see you voting GreyIce. Why is that so? You seem to be a bit hesitant from my pov.

[themarshall]

Also, I guarantee at least one of the pirate lemon, enomis, or fat viking is scum. That many votes in such a short amount of time with such shitty reasoning. I'm leaning the citrus fruit or the perpetually disappointed fan but I'll have to wait until AV makes his case to decide.

So now since sotty is town. And you are thinking i am town. So aurorousvox is scum to you? I dont see you mentioning this. (attacking him).

I said guarantee. I probably shouldn't have said guarantee, but I did. Those reads were based on the fact that the wagon on me built up really quickly in a short amount of time with really no reasoning given. I already said that you were exempt from that particular read because you were first on and you had a good reason. So it came down to sotty and AV. sotty flipped town and AV is really town and you can't have a scum read from that instance because you were the first one who voted me in that quick line of votes.

So again, I shouldn't have said "guarentee" especially if I knew you were going to use an old ass read that I already explained the reasons for against me a day later.

@enomis
I was waiting until AV posted so I could address you and LLD without telling AV why I think your vote town.

The reason I think you are town is because the reason I jumped on LLD

WAS PARTLY

fueled by me just trying to get a legit vote in. I get ants in my pants sometimes and admittedly I made a scummy move. I was trying to start a wagon and save the day(lol). Don't sit there and act like none of you have ever done it. So I have to give enomis his vote. That should answer LLD's question too, methinks.

As for the lemon and the viking... both have shit reasoning. Yes AV, you actually

SHOULD

have some reasoning behind your vote. It's ridiculous that you think you can just say "WELL HE'S OBVSCUM" but I'm reading it more as lazy/sheeping town, mainly because I'm starting to believe all of the T v. T talk between the babbies so I agree with his other reads.

Sotty however.. he jumps on my wagon late, just as it's really picking up speed so he can get lost in the votes. And in his post where he votes me he admits that LLD made a shitty case and then puts his vote on me for a little ad hom? Horse. Shit. I'm probably getting lynched today. But please lynch Sotty tomorrow.

Unvote
Vote: Sotty

I have been asked to claim and I am at L-1. I am Foxhound Aligned (I'm assuming that's town) Light Genome Soldier, a la example role PM. So basically a VT, I guess.

Next post will reply to MoI's wall if I haven't been hammered yet.

p-edit
Weren't you already voting me?

So you are not voting now lest you appear scummy? And why did you need to add assuming that's town. Now that i think back on it, if you write out Foxhound aligned and it is not town, you would be claiming to be scum. So i am sure you are sure that Foxhound aligned is town faction and that assuming part is completely bullshit.

I'm not voting because I've been V/LA dillhole. As I've already fucking explained 5 billion fucking times, I thought Foxhound was town and if it wasn't, it was 3rd party. Because it's orange. And not green. If your'e saying you didn't at least double take your alignment you're a fucking liar. Also, where was all of this yesterday? I mean shit, I was REPLYING to

YOU

in this post. Why didn't you say it or call me out on it at all at that time? Oh you did but then, what?

Everyone look at post #308

. Even after thinking I'm the scummiest person in the game, you say "

I agree that sotty, themarshall ARE prolly town. They are not scum due to all that happened the last few page. I could elaborate if you want me to.

" You only say this so you have a reason to go over to DX without seeming like you're flip flopping on your reads. Then DX flips so you go to the second easiest person to mislynch. And then all of a sudden the reads you had against me that weren't so scummy after all after my encounter with sotty are suddenly scummy enough again to lynch me? Fuck. Off.

Vote: Enomis

@Spyrex

You realize if the person lynched today flips town you absolutely

CAN NOT

shoot MoI tonight, right?

[Fate]

Seriously, there is a daytalk? WTF? Sorry, i didnt know that.

Holy shit this guys town.

And marshall just VOTED him?

Trolololscum

Spy. I WOULD go for the head but you wouldn't shoot marshall ANYWAY even with a. Moi scumflip so we has to KILLEMDEAD today and you do your justiice business on MoI your damnself

[themarshall]

Seriously, there is a daytalk? WTF? Sorry, i didnt know that.

Holy shit this guys town.

And marshall just VOTED him?

Trolololscum

Spy. I WOULD go for the head but you wouldn't shoot marshall ANYWAY even with a. Moi scumflip so we has to KILLEMDEAD today and you do your justiice business on MoI your damnself

How is that a towntell? That's only town assuming scum has day chat. Which isn't confirmed by any means. Soooooo shaddup.

And Spyrex if I get lynched you can't shoot tonight. If you shoot MoI and he flips town and SK doesn't hit mafia then mafia wins if there are 3 maf.

[enomis]

Also, I guarantee at least one of the pirate lemon, enomis, or fat viking is scum. That many votes in such a short amount of time with such shitty reasoning. I'm leaning the citrus fruit or the perpetually disappointed fan but I'll have to wait until AV makes his case to decide.

So now since sotty is town. And you are thinking i am town. So aurorousvox is scum to you? I dont see you mentioning this. (attacking him).

I said guarantee. I probably shouldn't have said guarantee, but I did. Those reads were based on the fact that the wagon on me built up really quickly in a short amount of time with really no reasoning given. I already said that you were exempt from that particular read because you were first on and you had a good reason. So it came down to sotty and AV. sotty flipped town and AV is really town and you can't have a scum read from that instance because you were the first one who voted me in that quick line of votes.

So again, I shouldn't have said "guarentee" especially if I knew you were going to use an old ass read that I already explained the reasons for against me a day later.

@enomis
I was waiting until AV posted so I could address you and LLD without telling AV why I think your vote town.

The reason I think you are town is because the reason I jumped on LLD

WAS PARTLY

fueled by me just trying to get a legit vote in. I get ants in my pants sometimes and admittedly I made a scummy move. I was trying to start a wagon and save the day(lol). Don't sit there and act like none of you have ever done it. So I have to give enomis his vote. That should answer LLD's question too, methinks.

As for the lemon and the viking... both have shit reasoning. Yes AV, you actually

SHOULD

have some reasoning behind your vote. It's ridiculous that you think you can just say "WELL HE'S OBVSCUM" but I'm reading it more as lazy/sheeping town, mainly because I'm starting to believe all of the T v. T talk between the babbies so I agree with his other reads.

Sotty however.. he jumps on my wagon late, just as it's really picking up speed so he can get lost in the votes. And in his post where he votes me he admits that LLD made a shitty case and then puts his vote on me for a little ad hom? Horse. Shit. I'm probably getting lynched today. But please lynch Sotty tomorrow.

Unvote
Vote: Sotty

I have been asked to claim and I am at L-1. I am Foxhound Aligned (I'm assuming that's town) Light Genome Soldier, a la example role PM. So basically a VT, I guess.

Next post will reply to MoI's wall if I haven't been hammered yet.

p-edit
Weren't you already voting me?

So you are not voting now lest you appear scummy? And why did you need to add assuming that's town. Now that i think back on it, if you write out Foxhound aligned and it is not town, you would be claiming to be scum. So i am sure you are sure that Foxhound aligned is town faction and that assuming part is completely bullshit.

I'm not voting because I've been V/LA dillhole. As I've already fucking explained 5 billion fucking times, I thought Foxhound was town and if it wasn't, it was 3rd party. Because it's orange. And not green. If your'e saying you didn't at least double take your alignment you're a fucking liar. Also, where was all of this yesterday? I mean shit, I was REPLYING to

YOU

in this post. Why didn't you say it or call me out on it at all at that time? Oh you did but then, what?

Everyone look at post #308

. Even after thinking I'm the scummiest person in the game, you say "

I agree that sotty, themarshall ARE prolly town. They are not scum due to all that happened the last few page. I could elaborate if you want me to.

" You only say this so you have a reason to go over to DX without seeming like you're flip flopping on your reads. Then DX flips so you go to the second easiest person to mislynch. And then all of a sudden the reads you had against me that weren't so scummy after all after my encounter with sotty are suddenly scummy enough again to lynch me? Fuck. Off.

Vote: Enomis

@Spyrex

You realize if the person lynched today flips town you absolutely

CAN NOT

shoot MoI tonight, right?

No look here. I already explained. I thought you WERE town because you gave all those minute details on your claim and this was what made me thought you were town. So i didnt bother questioning any of your playing style. Now that i think faraday could have given fake claims or you could have been coached(a new i thing i learned),[this is what happened the last few pages when i said that] i retract that town claim of yours and look at your post again. And now, after i do that, you are SCUMMY. No look, third party with only a vote and no action ability. Cool huh?

[enomis]

Seriously, there is a daytalk? WTF? Sorry, i didnt know that.

Holy shit this guys town.

And marshall just VOTED him?

Trolololscum

Spy. I WOULD go for the head but you wouldn't shoot marshall ANYWAY even with a. Moi scumflip so we has to KILLEMDEAD today and you do your justiice business on MoI your damnself

How is that a towntell? That's only town assuming scum has day chat. Which isn't confirmed by any means. Soooooo shaddup.

And Spyrex if I get lynched you can't shoot tonight. If you shoot MoI and he flips town and SK doesn't hit mafia then mafia wins if there are 3 maf.

Theres no SK. The shot was done by the vig so the HACKED must be by Mafia? No?

[themarshall]

Fine, fair enough.

Unvote
Vote: GreyIce

Well for the 'hacked' kill to have been maf it would have to have been Otacon hacking someone. I'm not sure if that's true. I'm under the impression the mafia kill was doc'd or maf was blocked last night if we assume that 'hacked' is a Gray Fox kill. That means 3 kills tonight if all goes wrong and if MoI is town we are done for (if we lynch town). If we lynch scum, then by all means, let the bullets fly.

[themarshall]

Unvote
Vote: Greyice

[enomis]

Fine, fair enough.

Unvote
Vote: GreyIce

Well for the 'hacked' kill to have been maf it would have to have been Otacon hacking someone. I'm not sure if that's true. I'm under the impression the mafia kill was doc'd or maf was blocked last night if we assume that 'hacked' is a Gray Fox kill. That means 3 kills tonight if all goes wrong and if MoI is town we are done for (if we lynch town). If we lynch scum, then by all means, let the bullets fly.

why cant greyfox be mafia? And explain your reasons for greyice. Is it the same as MoI?

[enomis]

And you havent answered the assuming part. It cant be third party since it only have a vote and it cant be scum. So?

[themarshall]

Fine, fair enough.

Unvote
Vote: GreyIce

Well for the 'hacked' kill to have been maf it would have to have been Otacon hacking someone. I'm not sure if that's true. I'm under the impression the mafia kill was doc'd or maf was blocked last night if we assume that 'hacked' is a Gray Fox kill. That means 3 kills tonight if all goes wrong and if MoI is town we are done for (if we lynch town). If we lynch scum, then by all means, let the bullets fly.

why cant greyfox be mafia? And explain your reasons for greyice. Is it the same as MoI?

Because Gray Fox wasn't on Snake's team. That's why. He tried to kill Otacon if I remember correctly.

And you havent answered the assuming part. It cant be third party since it only have a vote and it cant be scum. So?

I have no idea wtf you are talking about here. Speak sensibly.

[enomis]

Fine, fair enough.

Unvote
Vote: GreyIce

Well for the 'hacked' kill to have been maf it would have to have been Otacon hacking someone. I'm not sure if that's true. I'm under the impression the mafia kill was doc'd or maf was blocked last night if we assume that 'hacked' is a Gray Fox kill. That means 3 kills tonight if all goes wrong and if MoI is town we are done for (if we lynch town). If we lynch scum, then by all means, let the bullets fly.

why cant greyfox be mafia? And explain your reasons for greyice. Is it the same as MoI?

Because Gray Fox wasn't on Snake's team. That's why. He tried to kill Otacon if I remember correctly.

And you havent answered the assuming part. It cant be third party since it only have a vote and it cant be scum. So?

I have no idea wtf you are talking about here. Speak sensibly.

Explain your reasons for voting greyice.(you dodged that). And by the assuming part i meant that, how can a third party have no powers and can only vote? And you cant assuming foxhound aligned to be scum, So IT HAD TO BE A VT. So this put holes in the assuming logic. Get it?

[themarshall]

No.
And I was holding my breath the whole time, hoping I didn't just claim scum or something. So no, I didn't think it all the way through. If I had, I probably would have been more sure it was VT. Still, mod didn't say Foxhound = town anywhere. There was room for doubt in my mind. If you don't believe me, fuck off and vote me. But don't ask the same damn questions I've answered 40 fucking times.

[enomis]

No.
And I was holding my breath the whole time, hoping I didn't just claim scum or something. So no, I didn't think it all the way through. If I had, I probably would have been more sure it was VT. Still, mod didn't say Foxhound = town anywhere. There was room for doubt in my mind. If you don't believe me, fuck off and vote me. But don't ask the same damn questions I've answered 40 fucking times.

My vote is already on you. Anyway EXPLAIN YOUR REASON FOR VOTING GREYICE.

[themarshall]

Because I like MoI's case on him

[SpyreX]

Step one then would be not getting lynched.

But 10 alive 3 mafia mislynch / shot on MoI being town (lololol) + mafia kill = 7/3 lylo not OMG GAME OVER.

And yes enomis is also town this should be readily apparent.

[themarshall]

Step one then would be not getting lynched.

But 10 alive 3 mafia mislynch / shot on MoI being town (lololol) + mafia kill = 7/3 lylo not OMG GAME OVER.

And yes enomis is also town this should be readily apparent.

No no no.. 10 alive now. 1 mislynch, 1 maf kill, 1 vig kill, 1 SK kill = 6 alive tomorrow. If we do mislynch and you shoot MoI and he flips town, we have to pray that there are only 2 maf or game over. But with a tracker and vig, I doubt there is only 2 maf.

I'm assuming there is an SK because flavor for LLD's kill was "hacked" which makes no sense for a maf kill seeing as Gray Fox is the only person with a sword and he's not gonna be maf (if he is mod needs to brush up on his MGS)

[MagnaofIllusion]

I have more to say later tonight when I have time but Marshall has again claimed scum in his posts today.

UNVOTE: GreySCUM - lives for another day
VOTE: Marshall

As to GreyFOX not being Mafia Marshall - who cuts off Revolver Ocelot's hand? Who joins in battling Metal Gear Rex with Solid Snake and ends up getting killed in the process?

If anyone needs to brush up on MGS it's not Faraday ...

[Hiraki]

I need a re-read, I've been lagging behind.

Expect something tomorrow or late todayish.

[themarshall]

Yeah, but we should be taking the worst case scenario and taking it as truth. When has that ever been a bad idea?