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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:26 am
by Korlash
Had or have? and what's your opinion on Omthenomnomnom?

lucky wrote:
lynch om of the nom


Really?
>.>

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:34 am
by Amrun
Had because Glass is no longer here. Om of the Nom is null to me. I felt fairly confident in Glass-town, though. A couple of things I noted I didn't like, but overall, I felt town.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:17 am
by Korlash
Yeah... that was a dumb question... it honestly sounded legitimate in my head ><

What makes you feel Glass was town? he was one of my original scum trio.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:23 am
by Amrun
Amrun wrote:
-Early townread on Glass.

...

-Glass so town.

...

-Glass town decreasing. She was voting vijay, then she agrees with him, but doesn't vote with him... what.

...

-Glass more town.

...

End of archived posts reads:

Townish (no particular order): Glass, DW, ActionDan, MistBeauty, Rylai, Lopsy, v2v

Scummy (no particular order): lucky, IceGuy, iStark

Null: malthusis, Otto

Amrun wrote:...

-Don't like Glass' contradiction: ActionDan is scum buddying up to weak town Rylai, but Rylai is scum. What? Townread diminished.

...

Amrun wrote:OKAY

Top three scumreads: luckyjt, IceGuy, Korlash


Top three townreads: Lopsy, DW, iStark


That's just how I'm feeling right now. The biggest movement between the old thread and the new is iStark. I've liked basically all of his posting in the new thread and it feels real to me. I no longer think he's scum and think some of the things I found scummy are due to a combination of newness and language barrier. (What is your first language, iStark?)


VOTE: luckyjt



CSL, why do you think DeltaWave is scum? I think it's clear beyond clarity that he is not.



These are the relevant posts on Glass. Glass did not end up making my final top three townreads, but was still leaning town overall. Early on, I felt very confident in Glass town. Glass' early game felt transparent, open, and townish. A little bit later on, when he started to disconnect, there were some contradictions that bothered me - but how much of that had to do with slowly disconnecting from the game?

All in all, OOTM isn't the WORST lynch, but I don't like it.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:24 am
by Korlash
What about Lucky?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:25 am
by Luckyjt
Korlash wrote:Had or have? and what's your opinion on Omthenomnomnom?

lucky wrote:
lynch om of the nom


Really?
>.>


Yes really. Why you have an objection of what I did. Just start the wagon on me people will follow.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:25 am
by Amrun
Korlash wrote:What about Lucky?


I have pretty clearly had lucky as a scumread since page 1 of the game.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:36 am
by Korlash
Lucky wrote:Yes really. Why you have an objection of what I did. Just start the wagon on me people will follow.


...

Did you even read what I quoted?

Amrun wrote:I have pretty clearly had lucky as a scumread since page 1 of the game.


Right, and he doesn't appear to be in Rainbow's list of townies. seems to be the only person all three of us agrees on.

Unvote:, Vote: Lucky


Just because he told me to. (and also because he's scum, but I prefer the former for tax purposes)

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:36 am
by Amrun
VOTE: lucky

Equally fine with lucky and IceGuy wagons.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:46 am
by Korlash
And see, I think Iceskatz is town. As I think does Rainbow...

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:58 am
by Luckyjt
Im town but I told you to lynch me. Lets go on with this lynch.
Now when I die and get confirmed as town can someone investigate Amrun just to be on the sure. Then we can confirm his investigation. If there is a doc I suggest to protect Amrun because if he is town, mafia will try to kill him tonight. Let them waste their kill. Last one on the wagon will most likely be scum. If someone tries lynching me for a dumb reason I suggest Amrun to investigate them if he is town, but do what you want with the investigation.

lynch luckyjt

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:03 am
by IceGuy
Luckyjt wrote:Im town but I told you to lynch me. Lets go on with this lynch.
Now when I die and get confirmed as town can someone investigate Amrun just to be on the sure. Then we can confirm his investigation. If there is a doc I suggest to protect Amrun because if he is town, mafia will try to kill him tonight. Let them waste their kill. Last one on the wagon will most likely be scum. If someone tries lynching me for a dumb reason I suggest Amrun to investigate them if he is town, but do what you want with the investigation.

lynch luckyjt


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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:10 pm
by Rainbowdash
I dont like a lucky lynch.

I havent been able to find much about why that pony is obviously town, but gut has said it the entire game.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:05 pm
by Om of the Nom
I like the Lucky lynch. His latest posts seem more concerned with self-preservation and AtE than finding scum.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Luckyjt

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:21 pm
by Amrun
Self preservation when he self voted? Really?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:23 pm
by Rainbowdash
Luckyjt wrote:(Like if you guys agree to lynch me, then go ahead.)

Luckyjt wrote:Im town but I told you to lynch me. Lets go on with this lynch.

lynch luckyjt

Luckyjt wrote:Just start the wagon on me people will follow.


OOTN wrote:self-preservation


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That word does not mean what I think you think it means.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:24 pm
by Amrun
VOTE: Om of the nom

CHANGING MY MIND

FUCK YEAH

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:36 pm
by Om of the Nom
It makes me think that he thinks people will change their minds on him so he can get away scot-free. Which is why he's using AtE to keep himself alive.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:27 pm
by Korlash
lucky wrote:Im town but I told you to lynch me. Lets go on with this lynch.
Now when I die and get confirmed as town can someone investigate Amrun just to be on the sure. Then we can confirm his investigation. If there is a doc I suggest to protect Amrun because if he is town, mafia will try to kill him tonight. Let them waste their kill. Last one on the wagon will most likely be scum. If someone tries lynching me for a dumb reason I suggest Amrun to investigate them if he is town, but do what you want with the investigation.

lynch luckyjt


Ok, I gave you the benefit of the doubt the first time but now I'm starting to think you're doing this 'lynch' crap on purpose. Stop it... >.> it irks me...

And you just attempted to direct the doc protect. You should die just for that alone.

Rainbows wrote:I dont like a lucky lynch.

I havent been able to find much about why that pony is obviously town, but gut has said it the entire game.


... Why you gotta be so ruining things? :\

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:23 pm
by Rainbowdash
Korlash wrote:
Rainbows wrote:I dont like a lucky lynch.

I havent been able to find much about why that pony is obviously town, but gut has said it the entire game.


... Why you gotta be so ruining things? :\


I just dont see it. Just nopony hammer lucky without me giving the go ahead since if I have a non track/watch investigative role it says lucky is probably not mafia.

Also why are you voting lucky if you still think Amrun is scum? Those two are aggressively not scum together.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:33 pm
by Korlash
Rainbows wrote:Also why are you voting lucky if you still think Amrun is scum? Those two are aggressively not scum together.


I disagree but you're welcome to try and convince me otherwise.

Hypothetically speaking though, I can see a scum team that doesn't involve Amrun, but it does involve Lucky hence the vote. It also involves Omnom though so it won't take much to get me to move my vote back.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:44 pm
by Rainbowdash
Korlash wrote:
Rainbows wrote:Also why are you voting lucky if you still think Amrun is scum? Those two are aggressively not scum together.


I disagree but you're welcome to try and convince me otherwise.


Post crash lucky jumped right back on kondi. After that long of a break everything had slowed down and resuming (?) a hard bus is more unlikely since in a couple weeks off everypony had a chance to think about things deeper. Also Amrun has been pushing strongly enough for a lucky lynch since she showed up, im pretty sure both arent scum here, and I would not at all be shocked to see town-town.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:52 pm
by Amrun
lucky/amrun scumteam?

LOLOLOL no

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:03 pm
by Korlash
Rainbow wrote:Post crash lucky jumped right back on kondi. After that long of a break everything had slowed down and resuming (?) a hard bus is more unlikely since in a couple weeks off everypony had a chance to think about things deeper. Also Amrun has been pushing strongly enough for a lucky lynch since she showed up, im pretty sure both arent scum here, and I would not at all be shocked to see town-town.


So? I've spent entire day ones in a two person scum team viciously pushing for my partner's execution. This game should have a three person team, making extreme bussing more common.

Post crash? Things slowed down? Duh, that's why scum are more likely to put a vote on their partner. Post crash, it's harder to justify reads and back up votes since momentum has died down and getting cached info is exceedingly more difficult. Putting a vote on a known scum is the easiest to defend. Plus post crash you aren't likely to expect any really big wagons forming too fast. Saying scum aren't likely to vote their partners 'post crash' is wrong. It would be proper play to open up either with a vote on one of your partners or at least some phrasing of "i think so and so is scum".

And yeah, questionverb's been pushing Lucky, and who's she been calling town? Glass. You bus one and call the other town. Scum 101.

I like the AD pairing with Lucky just as much for a lot of the same reasons, so I'm perfectly open to the idea that I'm way wrong here. But as it stands, I see all the evidence you just presented as signs of a partnership, not lack of one.

Amrun wrote:lucky/amrun scumteam?

LOLOLOL no


Yeah well, We'll see. You sure changed your Omnom stance rather hurried like once Lucky was run up. So keep laughing, please. It makes my job easier.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:26 pm
by Amrun
I've been pushing for lucky's death for a long fucking time.

I don't see the scum motivation for him to vote for himself as a way to stop distracting the town. He's very, very, new. I've keyed into a LOT of scummy things from his slot, but I don't see such a raw newbie doing that as a gambit. No way.

Om Nom's post after that was so ... it didn't look at intent at ALL. "Self preservation..." Yeah right. That read purely as "YAY MISLYNCH GO THROUGH ME HAPPY"