OOC: I'm counting 10 here. Kaufman got the hammer.
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:24 pm
by HP Lovecraft
James Joyce,
Mafia Jack-of-All-Trades
, was lynched Day 3
Night actions are due by 12/23 at 9PM EST
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:35 am
by HP Lovecraft
No deaths last night. Deadline is 1/14/2013 at 5PM EST. With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:09 am
by Confucius
Vote: Hulk Hogan
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:15 am
by Spinning Paper
Snicketsnack!
Vote: Lemony Snicket
(ooc: If people trust me, e.g. for catching Shakespeare and Jane Austen, this would be an excellent time to follow me. Lemony Snicket is very much the high percentage play here.)
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:37 am
by Edgar Allan Poe
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Stein | | DEATH
DEATH | | Stein
Stein | DEATH
DEATH | Stein
Stein | \ DEATH
DEATH | \ Stein
VOTE: |___\
Stein
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:50 pm
by OscarWilde
Wilde craned his neck to read Poe's work, amused by the structure of it.
"A feeling I can sympathize with. I'd like to see what comes of it."
VOTE: Stein
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:45 pm
by T S Eliot
I can say merely that I find Ms. Stein deserving of our utmost suspicion.
Vote: Stein
OOC: LA til Wednesday or Thursday.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:10 pm
by Marion Zimmer Bradley
Our circle spent much time in work last night taking care of Darkovans, and I can say that I definitely feel Mestra Stein is a Terran Spy...
VOTE: Gertrude Stein
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:15 pm
by Charlie Kaufman
Author's Note: Danielewski is pretty much confirmed town.
So is God.
VOTE: Gertrude Stein
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:53 pm
by Mark Z Danielewski
VOTE: Gertrude Stein
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:42 pm
by Confucius
Faced with what is right, to leave it undone shows a lack of courage.
~
I am going to claim. I have no qualms with the Gertrude Stein wagon, but I would rather this information be known instead of lost in case there is another speedy lynch before everybody can post. I am reasonably sure I have pinpointed one scum, and potentially two.
I am a Prostitute -- I roleblock a player of my choice while learning a small tidbit about them, with the additional effect of being visible to all other players who target my target.
1.)
My predecessor did not target anyone on Night One.
2.)
On Night Two, I tried to look for players who seemed like they could be connected to either Jane Austen or William Shakespeare. I ended up targeting OscarWilde. On Day Three, he began by claiming he had "precious little memory of the night before", suggesting he knew he was role-blocked, which only an information-receiving role could really know.
The curious thing is that upon the opening of both Days Two and Four, he did not appear to drop any crumbs to suggest a night result. This leads me to think that if he is an information role, he would have been leaving more subtle messages to scum-partners in his opening posts. (A more common tactic for, say, a Mafia Role Cop is to have the first letter of a sentence represent their result, like "T" for Townie, and so forth).
This is not my highest suspect, although obviously he is suspicious and I think he should die. But:
3.)
Last night I asked the Mod if I had successfully targeted OscarWilde on Night Two (the alleged "Lightning Rod" Night), and it was confirmed that I had -- this was further supported by the fact that I learned a tidbit about OscarWilde's role that did not seem to match Gregory Williamson's role. And obviously, if there had been a mass redirection to Gregory Williamson, then
everybody
with a targeting role who used it would have seen me with Gregory Williamson.
Based on all of this, I realized that James Joyce may have
actually
had a compelling result on Hulk Hogan / Fred Phelps. Mafiates are not exactly prone to trying to lynch somebody with an essentially claimed Guilty on Day Three of a 24-player game unless they actually have a reason to do so. I expect he planned on a Hulk Hogan lynch, followed by being Doc-protected, etc.
As such, I blocked Hulk Hogan last night, and as you can see, there have been no deaths tonight. The possibility that James Joyce had incriminating evidence against Hulk Hogan combined with my rolebocking of him on a night with no kills gives me little doubt he is scum.
~
I will hold on to the tidbits of information I have for both OscarWilde and Hulk Hogan for now. Neither tidbit is incriminating in any sense, and I expect they are related to the players' roles rather than their alignments.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:57 pm
by Hulk Hogan
You know somethin, brother, I can understand why you're thinking what you're thinking dude. But you got it all wrong man. I haven't been killing anybody at night. No, I'm a simple Fruit Vendor, man. Each night, I say my prayers, I take my vitamins, and I go out and deliver fruit to the little starving authors out there, man.
Now, the first night, in my incarnation as Fred Phelps, I did what Fred Phelps would do, I sent the "fruits" to "God" for judgement, man.
Night 2, I figured I'd send some fruit to Dr. Seuss as a way of smoothing over the bad blood between us, brother.
Then, Night 3, I decided I'd send a nice little basket of fruit to Danielewski, figuring this brutha would know what to do with it, man.
But as far as going out and killing anyone, you got the wrong guy. And now, you've exposed yourself for no reason, man. You haven't really thought this through, and the real question is whether or not you're trying to protect ol' Steiny.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:32 pm
by Mark Z Danielewski
WHEN JOHNNY COMES MARCHING HOME
God
,
Seuss
, please confirm this:
↑Hulk Hogan wrote:I'm a simple Fruit Vendor
the first night, as Fred Phelps, I sent the "fruits" to "God"
Night 2, I figured I'd send some fruit to Dr. Seuss
— Ed.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:13 pm
by Confucius
I can already confirm that Hulk Hogan is a fruit vendor -- it matches the information I learned about him. But that does not make Hulk Hogan Town.
If you seriously think I am trying to protect Gertrude Stein, though, you really should read my posts more closely.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:38 pm
by Mark Z Danielewski
And now for a bit of meta richness, with our host's kind permission (since this information is publicly available).
Note the email address on the bottom left of the image. Our deceased James Joyce is none other than DrippingGoofball. The Jane Austen (Empking) defense makes a lot of sense coming from DGB, who far prefers defending her buddies to bussing.
Delial, Delial, Delial
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While it is possible that Hulk Hogan is part of the purple scumteam and that orange-DGB had a legitimate result on him, it would not be beyond DGB to just bullshit a result on him. Many players wouldn't, but DGB doesn't really bother to read the game, especially when she is scum. She went into retirement a while back (after Weather Mafia II) because she drew too many scum PMs in a row and her interest for playing scum fizzled out. She claimed Mason Lovers (!) as scum in Gay Mafia; she would be the kind to gambit a result, get a lynch, and then claim she was going for reactions. In fact, her reaction to me saying she couldn't have a result on Phelps/Hogan ("I wanted to get reactions!") strongly indicates that no, she did not actually have a result on that slot and that it was all a gambit.
That is not to say that Confucius doesn't have a result on Wilde and Hogan-Phelps, but that I believe DGB-Joyce lied about her 'guilty' on Phelps-Hogan; if she actually had a guilty result on him, there was no sense in her backing down from the claim and say she was going for reactions.
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3i dont need the fucking pulitzer just give me another scum lynch
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:04 pm
by OscarWilde
"I can confirm that Confucius is indeed a Prostitute. I spent that night in the arms of someone whose face I did not see. It would seem that it was Confucius."
((OOC: I don't feel like writing IC right now, so basically I made some false assumptions about what order night actions get applied in and didn't really pay that much attention to my result flavor after I noticed the one-shot Lightning Rod. I am a town role cop. I have two night results, but my first night's result is already known to the town. I have a result that I was intending to hang onto until that player claims.))
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:14 pm
by Marion Zimmer Bradley
We can deal with the truth of the matter about Mestro Hogan later. Right now it is very important that Mestra Stein eat rope. I am not as sold on the idea that a fruit vendor as a mafia role, so it is better to go after someone who is far more likely to be scum.
We do know there are two mafia teams, but how many would be on each team? I have no idea.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:18 pm
by Confucius
The object of the superior man is truth.
~
OscarWilde,
My role said nothing about informing the player I sleep with of my presence; only that players who also target who
I
target will see me. I will send a question to the Mod about your claimed affirmation, though. As far as I can tell, you should only have seen me if you had targeted yourself. [As an aside: Hulk Hogan, were you informed of my (or somebody's) presence?]
Also, why did you crumb your lack of result for Night Two, but you seemingly did not crumb anything (for anybody to find in case you died) for Nights One and Three? And why do your first posts of the gameday keep referring to the players who have already died?
Additionally: what were your "pet theories" about the Night One deaths? I already asked you this before, but you failed to answer.
~
I will think about the James Joyce / DrippingGoofball situation as it concerns Hulk Hogan. It kept reading to me like James Joyce had a "guilty" result on Hulk Hogan and felt compelled to retract it under the fear of the Lightning Rod contradicting their result somehow, but if James Joyce was DrippingGoofball then I concede she is much more likely to have been making it up.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:30 pm
by Marion Zimmer Bradley
Why are you claiming now Mestro Wilde? If you have a guilty we should know about it. If you do not, you should have stayed quiet to prevent scum from knowing who you are.
Mestro Confucius is there more about your role in the Wiki? I am not familiar with it. As for the lightning rod, my understanding is all night actions were rebounded on him with kill trumping other later actions in the list so graciously provided by our esteemed Hastur of Hasturs. I may not have full understanding though it is a tad confusing.
OOC How likely is it that they would have a mafia fruit vendor? Besides both mafia teams are already fairly power heavy based on the flips so far. Especially Mestra Austen with her roleblocking ability. Mestro Shakespeare was a strongman, and Mestro Joyce (DGB) was a JOAT. Surely at least some of the scum would be regular goons? And that is your answer Confucius of why Mestro Wallace died, the scum were strong, too strong. My inclination is that Mestro Ellis was more likely killed by a vig shot instead of by mafia. Though I am not 100% sure, that is my reasoning based on the fact that he was an uber lurker. We need our PRs not to be claiming at this time unless they have information that is vital. We need more votes on Stein.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:33 pm
by Marion Zimmer Bradley
uggh sorry for the double post I do not know why it did that
at mod could you remove one of my double posts thanks.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:40 pm
by Gertrude Stein
Hello, greetings of the season, and general felicitations to you and yours and grammar.
Due to the timing of the holiday, and the fact that I am entertaining relatives and guests and the holiday season, please do not kill me just this moment.
I shall return with more in two days or so.
I am V/LA until Thursday.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:44 pm
by Confucius
I expect my role is particular to this game; whether it is in the Wiki somewhere is of no importance to me.
Looking at the order-of-actions (which I should have done sooner), it seems I would have roleblocked OscarWilde prior to roles being redirected. (Though it is weird I would still learn something about OscarWilde instead of Gregory Williamson, since my tidbit is arguably an "inspection," but that would not make much sense flavorwise). I had been under the impression that Gregory Williamson had
not
actually used his ability on Night Two at all given that I successfully targeted OscarWilde. I suppose my role does not actually support that theory.
~
Marion Zimmer Bradley, your nightkill speculation does not match up to the nightkills we've actually had. Could you rephrase?
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:55 pm
by Confucius
Almost forgot:
I can also confirm that OscarWilde is a Role Cop given my information.
I still think there is a strong chance OscarWilde is a
Mafia
Role Cop since (i) it is very rare to see a Town Role Cop while it is relatively commonplace to see Mafia Role Cops, (ii) my role essentially is
already
a very watered-down version of a Town Role Cop, except I have some more bells and whistles and it is not truly the "meat" of my role, and (iii) as I previously mentioned, he does not appear to have left any crumbs the Town can follow in the event of his death (except for Night Two when he made it clear he failed to get a result), suggesting that if he left crumbs, they were left in a manner that only players already in-the-know (i.e., scum partners) could understand.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:02 pm
by Marion Zimmer Bradley
sorry about that. I meant Bugle not Ellis. I am not at home right now due to the holidays. Bugle was a major lurker.