↑AngryPidgeon wrote:I see AA/Nero like Cryo for scum. I don't see anyone townreading that slot, possibly a better lynch than Messiah.
Mastin has a strong town read on us, you had a strong town read on us, Majiffy is calling us dumbtown (which is like the pot calling the kettle black)
Are you honestly scumhunting based on how others read a slot?
Yup. It's kinda like you relying on Nero, Angel. (I know this is Angel because Nero would have no problem with me sheeping him. ) You know him to share your alignment (town), so you know his reads come from the same place as you.
It's less certain, sure, yeah, because we don't know for 100% sure that you are town since we don't have your role PM, but because of our strong townread on you, we're making the safe assumption that you're town, and therefore the safe assumption that your reads are from the same point of view as ours are: town. Scumhunting off of how others read a slot when said other players are incredibly strong is not shameful at all.
And it's not like I'm actually sheeping. I legitimately have scumreads on Messiah and CryoNudist. It's just that they've grown stronger via other people who I know to be strong players ALSO having those same scumreads.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:56 am
by Majiffy
↑mastin2 wrote:Does anyone in the bloc (or, heck, really...anyone at all ) still have a townread on Ms Marangal? If so, how strong and can you explain?
She seems to have the same mindset as she did in Newbie 1342, and she was town there.
↑AngryPidgeon wrote:Majiffy, could you explain your Slandaar scumread?
Same thing as with Jal, basically. I haven't really sat down and tried to digest the ISOs but I've seen posts that just rubbed me wrong.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:59 am
by Angelious Nero
no, it was me Mastin. AP just worded that funky as hell.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:06 am
by mastin2
Another point supporting a Messiah lynch--
If the collective scumreads of our town bloc were somehow wrong, then I'd rather keep CryoNudist around than Messiah. For a start--their content might be bad, but I see Messiah's as being worse. They have shown the capability to potentially be of use if they're town, whereas Messiah has not. They've even agreed to enter into a 1v1 that they have a significant chance of losing, another thing which while by no stretch of the imagination making them town, does at least give them some wiggle-room to me.
Don't interpret this post the wrong way; I still think they're both scum. But I feel like Messiah's more scum than CryoNudist, and more useless to keep around if town.
Does this make sense?
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:08 am
by Angelious Nero
Since when does town Mastin ask if things make sense?
lemme do some reading, I need to stop being lazy and make a qt so me and the Indian Princess can coordinate.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:10 am
by AngryPidgeon
↑Piratecat wrote:AP - mind linking to me the games you read PV in correctly?
And how long this day will go? looks like everyone bit tired of this day already.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:55 am
by Angelious Nero
↑CryoChemist wrote:We are good with that. We'll go 1v1 with messia. Will help us get into this game.
And seriously that all you gotta say when everyone reads you as scum?
VOTE: CryoNudist
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:23 am
by Approximately Normal Guy
/prod-dodge
I got into a couple games on my home site and as a result let this one fall to the wayside for a couple days. I will catch up once I'm out of class later.
↑qwints wrote:Thegoat, what do you think of AN's case on mac, and why aren't you on that wagon?
I'm assuming you're referring to his early read on Mac's overreaction to Bork's post. I saw it similarly. I am not on that wagon because I don't feel as strongly about that as I do about KoC being scum.
I'll be phone posting for the rest of the day as I can; may check in very late. Apparently my workplace's Websense filter dislikes Mafiascum.net.
It wasn't really an over reaction though, it was me pondering bork's opinion and offering my own. I actually missed out a couple of words meaning it looked like I was accusing GIF of being scum. I would never class him as scum straight off the bat from that, but his question would be, in my eyes,
↑CryoChemist wrote:We are good with that. We'll go 1v1 with messia. Will help us get into this game.
And seriously that all you gotta say when everyone reads you as scum?
VOTE: CryoNudist
It's posts like these (we have 0 doubt this was an AA post) that wish you all would have followed us early and policy lynched this slot.
Seriously, AA, use that little brain of yours and think through what us willing to 1v1 Messia when indeed multiple people have put us on a scum list actually means. What does it gain scum-us to be in a 1v1 situation when we are on multiple people's scum lists yet have (had) 1 total vote?
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:57 am
by AngryPidgeon
Seriously, CN, use those brains of yours and riddle me this. What does it gain town-you to lurk all game and then snap agree to 1v1 everyone's other favorite scum pick? Have you read the thread? Do you even think Messiah is scum on your own?
I don't see any motivation to do what you are doing, so I'm going to assume you are just scum pulling shenanigans.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:01 am
by CryoChemist
↑AngryPidgeon wrote:Seriously, CN, use those brains of yours and riddle me this. What does it gain town-you to lurk all game and then snap agree to 1v1 everyone's other favorite scum pick? Have you read the thread? Do you even think Messiah is scum on your own?
I don't see any motivation to do what you are doing, so I'm going to assume you are just scum pulling shenanigans.
Lurk? Not our fault this game went 14 pages in under 24 hours. It is our fault we don't feel like reading 22 pages of what probably is a bunch of BS. Snap agreeing to a 1v1 was based on someone reducing the lynch pool and sounded like fun. How would we think Messiah is scum when we haven't even read the game? Obviously, we don't have any read on him.
Scum pulling shenanigans, town pulling shenanigans, /shrug.
We came in and voted Messiah b/c Jiffy was nice enough to give us the breakdown so far and his flow chart is beyond reproach...unless he's scum...which he isn't...probably...
Also, reducing the lynch pool down to us and Messiah gives town good info going into D2 whoever is lynched so...pick one and go with it AP.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:02 am
by CryoChemist
* on someone wanting to reduce...
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:07 am
by AngryPidgeon
Really? You are a good information lynch despite not having read the thread? I'm sure we will be able to divine tons from you flipping.
↑CryoChemist wrote:We are good with that. We'll go 1v1 with messia. Will help us get into this game.
And seriously that all you gotta say when everyone reads you as scum?
VOTE: CryoNudist
It's posts like these (we have 0 doubt this was an AA post) that wish you all would have followed us early and policy lynched this slot.
Seriously, AA, use that little brain of yours and think through what us willing to 1v1 Messia when indeed multiple people have put us on a scum list actually means. What does it gain scum-us to be in a 1v1 situation when we are on multiple people's scum lists yet have (had) 1 total vote?
You freaking kidding me? Even if you're town, I would be happy to lynch you at this moment.
Tell me one thing you did so far that helped this game. Don't you dare to open your shit mouth to talk about my posts on this game. I have done much better scum hunting since the game was begun.. All you did was.. lurk lurk lurk lurk and lurk.
so back off!!!!!!
~Angel
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:14 am
by AngryPidgeon
Holy crap, I think AA9 is turning into Nero Cain.
But pretty much that. CN is openly playing anti-town if he is town, so you know. Not a bad lynch either way.
And I really don't buy for a second that they arbitrarily think that they/Messiah are a great info lynch despite not having read.
↑AngryPidgeon wrote:Seriously, CN, use those brains of yours and riddle me this. What does it gain town-you to lurk all game and then snap agree to 1v1 everyone's other favorite scum pick? Have you read the thread? Do you even think Messiah is scum on your own?
I don't see any motivation to do what you are doing, so I'm going to assume you are just scum pulling shenanigans.
Lurk? Not our fault this game went 14 pages in under 24 hours. It is our fault we don't feel like reading 22 pages of what probably is a bunch of BS. Snap agreeing to a 1v1 was based on someone reducing the lynch pool and sounded like fun. How would we think Messiah is scum when we haven't even read the game? Obviously, we don't have any read on him.
Scum pulling shenanigans, town pulling shenanigans, /shrug.
We came in and voted Messiah b/c Jiffy was nice enough to give us the breakdown so far and his flow chart is beyond reproach...unless he's scum...which he isn't...probably...
Also, reducing the lynch pool down to us and Messiah gives town good info going into D2 whoever is lynched so...pick one and go with it AP.
Its a large game, What do you expect? The game is played by 21 players and nobody is playing at your comfort so that you can read when you feel bored. if you seriously don't have time to catch up. Replace out and spare us from the horror.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:20 am
by AngryPidgeon
Unvote: Messiah
Vote: CryoNudist
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:23 am
by Angelious Nero
You are just now voting CN? Hello BW hop.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:27 am
by Angelious Nero
↑AngryPidgeon wrote:Holy crap, I think AA9 is turning into Nero Cain.
↑CryoChemist wrote:We are good with that. We'll go 1v1 with messia. Will help us get into this game.
And seriously that all you gotta say when everyone reads you as scum?
VOTE: CryoNudist
It's posts like these (we have 0 doubt this was an AA post) that wish you all would have followed us early and policy lynched this slot.
Seriously, AA, use that little brain of yours and think through what us willing to 1v1 Messia when indeed multiple people have put us on a scum list actually means. What does it gain scum-us to be in a 1v1 situation when we are on multiple people's scum lists yet have (had) 1 total vote?
You freaking kidding me? Even if you're town, I would be happy to lynch you at this moment.
Tell me one thing you did so far that helped this game. Don't you dare to open your shit mouth to talk about my posts on this game. I have done much better scum hunting since the game was begun.. All you did was.. lurk lurk lurk lurk and lurk.
) You know him to share your alignment (town), so you know his reads come from the same place as you. 