Micro 164: Epic Mafia (Game Over)

[Jake from State Farm]

I disagree

[fuzzybutternut]

You would be wrong. Scum could easily fake that.

[Jake from State Farm]

They could, sure. But my gut says no. I listen to my gut, not rule breakers

[fuzzybutternut]

So you admit that you could be wrong.

[Jake from State Farm]

Well yeah, it's possible but he's on my do not lynch list for today anyway

[fuzzybutternut]

And if he flips scum?

[Jake from State Farm]

How's he gonna flip anything if he's not getting lynched day 1?

[fuzzybutternut]

I like how you think you control the Lynch.
I never said he's getting lynched day 1. I said when he flips.

[Jake from State Farm]

If he flips scum, I'll say "my bad guys"

[fuzzybutternut]

Lol.
Bubba is scum, Jake. Accept it and move on.

[Jake from State Farm]

and we're in like, 3 games together right now.
You're acting completely different in this one.

This post is toeing the line re the ongoing games rule—please don't go into any more detail ~ Mod

Quoted to see if you saw the mod warning you got, when mod edits it in its sometimes missed.

As with bubba, guess we will agree to disagree.

[Jake from State Farm]

Going to bed and flying home, god forbid katwomen try to imply I'm lurking too...

[Piratecat]

Please, please tell me how asking about your read on someone makes us calling someone a lurker. We never once called RPM a lurker as we just wondered where she was. Also I really doubt we went that long without a post as Richard is on key with his prods which means we should have been prodded but wasn't.

I don't see how Bubba town slipped.

Also you bitch at us for getting defensive for being called a lurker yet you defend rmp and ignore her over defensive post in regards to it.

Jake is scum guys. There should be more votes on him. Lets go.

[RichardGHP]

Vote Count 1.14

• bubbajack8 (2)
  : Rob13 fuzzybutternut
  
• fuzzybutternut (2)
  : catboi bubbajack8
  
• Rob13 (2)
  : Jake from State Farm rmpeacoc
  
• Jake from State Farm (1)
  : Piratecat
  
• catboi (1)
  : GuyInFreezer
  
• Piratecat (1)
  : BBmolla
  
• Not voting:
  (
  nobody
  )

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2013-05-03 17:57:30).

[Rob14]

Show me this slip.

No

But there's never any reason for town not to answer a question or give a reason for their reads, AM I RIGHT?

This hypocrisy is making me reconsider my Jake read, but I still think that Bubba is a way better choice Day 1. I'm way more sure on Bubba than I think I ever will be on Jake.

[Jake from State Farm]

Please, please tell me how asking about your read on someone makes us calling someone a lurker. We never once called RPM a lurker as we just wondered where she was. Also I really doubt we went that long without a post as Richard is on key with his prods which means we should have been prodded but wasn't.

I don't see how Bubba town slipped.

Also you bitch at us for getting defensive for being called a lurker yet you defend rmp and ignore her over defensive post in regards to it.

Jake is scum guys. There should be more votes on him. Lets go.

1. You didn't ask anyone's read on them, you asked where they were which implies they disappeared, which inplies they were lurking

2. You absolutely did vanish for the times I posted, but since neither of those were more than 48 hours you would not have been prodded.

3. As I pointed out to fuzzy, bubba has 2 posts Pre-game, it's not hard to find it

4. No I'm not scum.

[Jake from State Farm]

Show me this slip.

No

But there's never any reason for town not to answer a question or give a reason for their reads, AM I RIGHT?

This hypocrisy is making me reconsider my Jake read, but I still think that Bubba is a way better choice Day 1. I'm way more sure on Bubba than I think I ever will be on Jake.

The difference is I am saying they made a specific post Pre-game. Since they only made 2 it's reslly easy to find. You are claiming a super strong town read based on something and you won't even give a clue as to why. It's completely different. Give me a clue and I'll certainly try to find it. If you pulled it out of thin air, which is what I think you did, then your refusal to explain it is quite scummy

[rmpeacoc]

Please, please tell me how asking about your read on someone makes us calling someone a lurker. We never once called RPM a lurker as we just wondered where she was. Also I really doubt we went that long without a post as Richard is on key with his prods which means we should have been prodded but wasn't.

I don't see how Bubba town slipped.

Also you bitch at us for getting defensive for being called a lurker yet you defend rmp and ignore her over defensive post in regards to it.

Jake is scum guys. There should be more votes on him. Lets go.

1. You didn't ask anyone's read on them, you asked where they were which implies they disappeared, which inplies they were lurking

2. You absolutely did vanish for the times I posted, but since neither of those were more than 48 hours you would not have been prodded.

3. As I pointed out to fuzzy, bubba has 2 posts Pre-game, it's not hard to find it

4. No I'm not scum.

Please, please tell me how asking about your read on someone makes us calling someone a lurker. We never once called RPM a lurker as we just wondered where she was. Also I really doubt we went that long without a post as Richard is on key with his prods which means we should have been prodded but wasn't.

I don't see how Bubba town slipped.

Also you bitch at us for getting defensive for being called a lurker yet you defend rmp and ignore her over defensive post in regards to it.

Jake is scum guys. There should be more votes on him. Lets go.

[rmpeacoc]

Please, please tell me how asking about your read on someone makes us calling someone a lurker. We never once called RPM a lurker as we just wondered where she was. Also I really doubt we went that long without a post as Richard is on key with his prods which means we should have been prodded but wasn't.

I don't see how Bubba town slipped.

Also you bitch at us for getting defensive for being called a lurker yet you defend rmp and ignore her over defensive post in regards to it.

Jake is scum guys. There should be more votes on him. Lets go.

Please, please tell me how asking about your read on someone makes us calling someone a lurker. We never once called RPM a lurker as we just wondered where she was. Also I really doubt we went that long without a post as Richard is on key with his prods which means we should have been prodded but wasn't.

I don't see how Bubba town slipped.

Also you bitch at us for getting defensive for being called a lurker yet you defend rmp and ignore her over defensive post in regards to it.

Jake is scum guys. There should be more votes on him. Lets go.

1. You didn't ask anyone's read on them, you asked where they were which implies they disappeared, which inplies they were lurking

2. You absolutely did vanish for the times I posted, but since neither of those were more than 48 hours you would not have been prodded.

3. As I pointed out to fuzzy, bubba has 2 posts Pre-game, it's not hard to find it

4. No I'm not scum.

#1 and #2 in Jake's post. Absolutely you implied I was lurking. Why ask where I was after 7 hours, as if I'm around 24 hours a day. And yes, you were gone for those times. I went back and checked.

Look, here's what I'm seeing. Rob says I am 'defending Bubba' when in reality I was only trying to make sure that people didn't see that screenshot as actual evidence... because it's not.

Piratecat calls Jake a lurker for 'defending me' when he reality he was only pointing out that I was not lurking but that it was implied.

Who's the scum in this situation?

*I'm feeling a bit better about fuzzy, he's moved to null-leaning scum for me. I think he's just a VI.

Also Jake has a point about Bubba's 2 pre-game posts. Unfortunately I disagree. My experience with Bubba is that as scum he tries to can trust in beginning of the game by showing an understanding of the setup. This is a null tell to me.

[Rob14]

Show me this slip.

No

But there's never any reason for town not to answer a question or give a reason for their reads, AM I RIGHT?

This hypocrisy is making me reconsider my Jake read, but I still think that Bubba is a way better choice Day 1. I'm way more sure on Bubba than I think I ever will be on Jake.

The difference is I am saying they made a specific post Pre-game. Since they only made 2 it's reslly easy to find. You are claiming a super strong town read based on something and you won't even give a clue as to why. It's completely different. Give me a clue and I'll certainly try to find it. If you pulled it out of thin air, which is what I think you did, then your refusal to explain it is quite scummy

Posting on my iPod so this will be short.

If I give a clue I might as well just give you the tell, since the clue would be used by scum as well as town. On the other hand you have no reason to NOT point to the specific post and give your reasoning behind the read. You want others to pick a post and do your reasoning for you. That's not how it works. You made the read. Now support it.

[bubbajack8]

i believe i saw fuzzy call out my v/la.


what do you yhink about that Rob?

also im not liking most of robs page 22, and i wkuld quote it buuuut im on my kindle. -_-

jakes page 22 ks also concerning, though.

if im able to get n to the comlut today i do a more ndepth oof what i dont like, but fu zy s atill the top of my scumist.

[Rob14]

This is what you said:

also im not liking most of robs page 22, and i wkuld quote it buuuut im on my kindle. -_-

jakes page 22 ks also concerning, though.

This is what I heard:

I'm gonna throw out non-concrete reads on Rob and Jake so that when one of them gets lynched in the current verbal slapfight, I can go after the other in the next day without looking like I did a 180 on my reads. lololololol

Also, about Pirate's call-out of your V/LA (and it was pirate, not fuzzy):

I see why she thought that, as you did go V/LA right as you were under fire. I still think this is stupid reasoning and against the spirit of the game, but at this point, Pirate has done a decent amount of scum-hunting, so this one lapse doesn't represent a pattern of not doing anything to scumhunt. In contrast, when you called out a V/LA Bubba, you had done essentially nothing to scum-hunt and have continued to do very little of that. And before you say it, tunneling fuzzy with crap reasons since page 1 or 2 does not count as scum hunting.

[bubbajack8]

Lel, I'm convinced fuzzy is scum yeah, but I've looked at BB, and you, and both pirate's as well. So wow. Also showing what I don't like in 22 now, so that Rob can't twist my words.

[bubbajack8]

Beginning at page 21

Spoiler:

Derp, hit the post button before I meant to.

Not disclosing any of my reasons for my Pirate read.

My GIF read was early on. At the time, some of the posts I liked were #28, #63, #66, and #74.

Sure.

UNVOTE: BBmolla
VOTE: rmpeacoc

What was he doing here? Putting presure on someone in RVS, I liked it too, to an extent. But it seems like a defense of fuzzy since fuzzy voted rmp as well and you want him to appear this way as well.

L-2 is actually pretty common for RVS wagon, because it builds enough pressure without the risk of lolderphammer.

Also, I'm terrible at reading sarcasm.

Yet again, GiF somewhat protecting fuzzy, and attacking rmp, so you like it.

This is what I'm seeing in this game so far.

What the hell does this have to do about the game? How does this convey a alignment?

L-2 is actually pretty common for RVS wagon, because it builds enough pressure without the risk of lolderphammer.

Also, I'm terrible at reading sarcasm.

Well I don't like it for the reason I stated above. I'll say it again:

If some idiot was dumb enough to put an idiot town at L-1, that idiot town might actually claim.

Again, I'm not an idiot and thus I will not be claiming without an intent to hammer.

If we're following this logic, L-3 is scummy and dangerous too because someone might put an idiot town at L-2, which can lead to someone putting an idiot town at L-1, and idiot town might actually claim.
<_<

Attacking rmp, pulling pressure off fuzzy. I see why you like him.

The reason why I won't reveal my reason for the read on Pirate is because it would be harmful to the town for me to do that. Needless to say, I think I saw a specific tell a while back near the beginning of the game that convinces me Pirate isn't scum. Run me up to L-1 or lynch me if you want - that reason isn't getting revealed.

Seems to me you see her as a PR, don't want to lynch her, but don't want others to know that's how you see her.

Lol, look at lurker pirate showing up only to vote. Didn't even bother to answer the questions I asked earlier.

Fuzzy did the same thing when I was voting Rob, so by your logic you should be voting fuzzy. (although fuzzy wasn't lurking at the time.)

Jake - still voting me on gut? I love how you've made no arguments against me so that I have nothing to respond to in order to defend myself in any way. A+++ on the scum-hunting.

But.....still town. Why are you voting Jake exactly Pirate?

Didn't you say something earlier about gut votes not being an alignment tell? Seems like you are saying he's not scumhunting. BB also has a vote due to gut, so why do you bring it up on Jake and not BB?

Your refusal to explain your super strong town read is why I'm voting you.

I already explained I think Jake views her as a PR but doesn't want people to know that so when she dies tonight he's not in trouble for it. But this also appears to me as Jake fishing for what PR Rob this pirate is.

Also, I know I've said this before, but I'd recommend looking into my meta.

But you got mad at me because you thought I read your scum meta. Lol

I don't see where anything Rob has done is scummy, honestly.

Oh my god. Just please, keep buddying with Rob.

Damn I could have sworn I voted you.

Oh well I guess I md tunneling. But that's what I do, deal with it

Lol. ^This isn't town Jake.

Tunneling is not town Jake, Ignore Rob and me tunneling bubba though.

Proof of fuzzy tunneling me is laterly found here as well.

Bubba is scum, Jake. Accept it and move on.

Lol at you knowing me

Not sure if he's loling because fuzzy supposedly knows him, or that fuzzy knows that Jake isn't town?

We've played enough games together, Jake.
You're not like this as town.

We have 1, count it ONE completed game together. Piss off with your lies

Total LOL.

why not

Cause I'm voting scum, Ldo

what do you think about fuzzy's trolleytracking on you

and what do you find so towny about molla that you do not want to lynch him

Trolley tracking?

I never said I found him towny, why put words into my mouth?

True Jake said he was voting scum.

and where did rpm go

Want to know what's really funny about this?

As rmp said, it's been about 7 hours or so.

Piratecat has gone 22 hours without a post, 21 hours without a post, 42 hours without a post, and 25 hours without a post.

All this coming from a person who is offended they have been accused of lurking. Seriously ladies, if you are town you should be ashamed of yourselves right now at the hypocrisy.

This comment is the most towny comment ever. What scum motivation is there to go and look how many hours someone has gone without a post?

They could, sure. But my gut says no. I listen to my gut, not rule breakers

I'm tired of gut. Logic > gut.

(NO comment on the town slip argument though, I have no clue what it is, and no one's quoting it...)

I like how you think you control the Lynch.

Rob was asking people to vote for me, is that not controlling?

But there's never any reason for town not to answer a question or give a reason for their reads, AM I RIGHT?

Yet you refused to say why Pirate isn't scum though.

The reason why I won't reveal my reason for the read on Pirate is because it would be harmful to the town for me to do that. Needless to say, I think I saw a specific tell a while back near the beginning of the game that convinces me Pirate isn't scum. Run me up to L-1 or lynch me if you want - that reason isn't getting revealed.

Not disclosing any of my reasons for my Pirate read.

VOTE: Rob

[rmpeacoc]

In post 28, GuyInFreezer wrote:
Sure.

UNVOTE: BBmolla
VOTE: rmpeacoc


What was he doing here? Putting presure on someone in RVS, I liked it too, to an extent. But it seems like a defense of fuzzy since fuzzy voted rmp as well and you want him to appear this way as well.

GIF voted me before Fuzzy did...