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In post 563, Desperado wrote:In the hypothetical situation where I am scum, you would be confirmed to be a killing role to me given the N1 results.

Also, Shos, let me say, that you liking 563 is not super neato keen, and here's why. Look at what he's saying here and then realize...it is a lie! Here's what it should say;

In the hypothetical situation where I am scum, and also chose to nightkill Bazinga, you would be confirmed to be a killing role to me given the N1 results.

But it DOESN'T say that! But that's because he knows who the NK was! All of his talk is just him being fancy, and yesterday he was seriously pushing a night action plan that would have ended in auto win for him, all his Bazinga talk was theoretical at that point, but today he was all like 'you are the killing doc' whereas if he was town he would of thought of me as still an either/or but he is using stuff he knows because he's scum, and that's the slip. It's a slip, and even his 563 that you say you like is showing the slip. That's what it is.

Because, like, say scum chose to kill Penguin, that would make me confirmed Naive doc, you see? TSO would be the killing guy.

Shos if any of the above doesn't make sense the please ask me about it so you really understand what I'm saying before you make any final decision. You have to do that or you're being dumb, 563 was not good Shos.

I believe you musunderstood me. let me explain in length

Well, I hope you explain in words, but will work on the length if I have to...

wait lol I'm typing it's LONG

In post 545, shos wrote:lol, des never argued too, you're both being lazy. I've come to decide that you are more likely to be the scum, and the fact that you 'forgot to submit' in a plan that was all well-ordered and pre-planned, made me want to hammer immediately. has it not occurred to you to tell us during the day that yo'll be gone? if you went away knowingly during the day before the lynch, why didn't you pm the mod ahead? also that 544 looks like AtE...

In post 546, shos wrote:so I'm giving you 24 hours to try and convince me that either you are town or des is scum. good luck.

this is me lying my butt to get you guys rollin.

THIS IS YOU GUYS ROLLIN. eh sorry for caps lol

In post 549, Desperado wrote:

In post 548, Squirrel Girl wrote:All I can say is it's dumb if you listen to him about how he would have killed me because you targeted me so he couldn't kill me, the only people scum could kill was Desperado or Jacob, so that is just Desperado lying to make me look bad and you believing him because he's better then me and I use AtE.

False. If I'm scum I would know that you are a killing doc, which would guarantees that Jacob is either the JK (which means you were available as a kill) or Naive (which means Shos was available for the kill) and given my status in the game a no kill wouldn't even have been that bad of an outcome. I would have taken the chance and just gotten Jake MLed instead.

SG is right here. Des had no idea what doc I am since I am the role that Rat had, can be anything, not killing role, so if SG is town and des is scum, then the only way for the kill to go through is if *I* am teh naive doc, odds for which are zero since naive is TSO or SG, otherwise they'd have protected the kill. with Jacob protecting me, same idea as above, I can't be a target. so Jacob it is anyway. scum know from N1 which one of TSO and SG are the killing role and which one is the naive; if SG is a killer, then either lose helplessly, or Jacob dies, and if she's naive, then jacob dies too, so it doesn't matter.

'it would guarantee that jacob is either the JK...or naive' - that's wrong, lol; naive he can't be because the naive HAS to be the doc not-protecting the kill from D1 AND not killing, and why would he be a JK.? why not say weak doc? regular doc?

if you had nokilled, then either SG shoots jacob which is the same, or you lose, or you know she is naive AND SHE LEARNS THAT TOO, meaning that she would know you are scum.

so yeah, a jacob kill fits you 100%.

now let me continue with my read, and later we'll have to examine what's going on if SG was scum..

In post 557, Desperado wrote:No I really don't.

You claimed that the only potential kill last night was Jacob or myself.

^This doesn't make any sense in a scenario where I am scum and you are a confirmed killing doc who was supposed to choose between me and Jacob last night.

so like my last post says, this is wrong, it makes perfect sense and is 100% correct.

In post 560, Squirrel Girl wrote:SHOS - DESP THINKS I'M A CONFIRMED KILLING DOC BECAUSE HE KNOWS I AM BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHO SCUM SUBMITTED THE KILL ON.

Nuts to everyone, i solved the game and saved town!

that might be a scumslip, yes.

In post 563, Desperado wrote:

In post 560, Squirrel Girl wrote:SHOS - DESP THINKS I'M A CONFIRMED KILLING DOC BECAUSE HE KNOWS I AM BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHO SCUM SUBMITTED THE KILL ON.

Nuts to everyone, i solved the game and saved town!

You're a moron.

In the hypothetical situation where I am scum, you would be confirmed to be a killing role to me given the N1 results.

In fact, as town, that was my thought process all of D2. I said as much then.

that's wrong. you would know her role, but you would only know that she is a confirmed killing role IF you killed bazinga and not PA. if you killed PA then she would be confirmed Naive for you. now, in the last line foe your post, you say that during all D2 that was your thought process - aka, before TSO died; at that point, you could have NO IDEA which of the two is correct. so as town, that makes no sense to have thought that during D2.

In post 566, Desperado wrote:

In post 396, Desperado wrote:You are Quack/CPR
Penguin is Quack/CPR
Bazinga Maf kill so no

^This is what led me to TSO/Jacob as scum yesterday. I was sure Bazinga was the scum kill.

so as I just said:
how were you sure that Bazinga was the NK, and that SG is the quack/cpr, and not PA the NK, and TSO the quack/CPR?? you had no way of knowing that. no way to have a gut about that - since nobody knows their role. ONLY SCUM WOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT, OR EVEN THINK THAT.

so unless you like, totally were a superb mafia player and saw that these two are superscummy and that one is town, that doesn't work.

you're not quite the paragon of scumhunting, especially not in this game, so no.

The parts of that I understand I agree with.

now I have to go through dies's posts to see if AA9 works as a partner.

but first, let's see what SG-scum can work with.

if SG is scum, then she knew TSO was the killing role, and couldn't agree with my first plan like here

In post 424, Squirrel Girl wrote:Okay, so Shos is Nurse.
TSO and I are either 1 scuma nd 1 killing role or 1 naive doc and 1 killing role
We are going to lynch Jacob.
Desp is going to target Shos.
TSO and I are going to target each other.

So the only way we don't win is if Desp is scum, right? Can we role analyze to assure that he is town at this point? I feel like we've done that, yeah?

so that's a first.

Now let's see. we learn that Des is not the Jailkeeper, since TSO killed. possible roles left are doc, weak doc, naive doc, JK. so the way things worked out, with us lynching TSO, we are left with three people: me, targetting SG, so if I'm not JK it's fine; and Des and Jacob targetting me.

SG would then target either one of you with no problem. she would be in a 3p lylo with one of you. If I were her I would obviously target Des. as town I'd say that Jacob is super more scummy, so if I shoot des and not win immediately, we will easily win at lylo. I see no reason to target Jacob. no way she thought of all this suring the night and did it for the wifom. if you did, frekin kudos then, if you win..

so nothing from this.

so let's just ISO des and see if it cuts the deal...

In post 584, shos wrote:if SG is scum, then she knew TSO was the killing role, and couldn't agree with my first plan like here

For the record, I think I was the one who came up with the idea of me and TSO shooting each other and started the whole conversation of that in the first place. I only did the post you're pointing out to make sure the night action was a win, and I think it was good of me to do that, not scummy.

that's not scummy at all, 424 supports you-town.

but

In post 378, Squirrel Girl wrote:Will it make sense to have TSO and I target each other tonight, that would functionally kill one of us and confirm the other as town, right?

yes you were.
that cuts teh deal.

VOTE: Des

if by any chance I am wrong and SG is the scum, FREAKINGLY WELL PLAYED GURL.

that was really just sealing it off tho, I'm pretty sure I'm right. are you scum?

I thought Bazinga was the NK because they were the townleader and they were obvtown, and Penguin was a virtual non-entity D1.

No one disagreed with me yesterday when literally all of my speculation was based around this. Now it's a scumslip?

Get the fuck outta here.

PEdit:

are you fucking serious

no im not fucking scum

a fucking scumslip???????????????

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh

no trolling plz

no way.

please tell me you're trollin

I don't fucking troll.

omg.

I can't believe this. but...378....is perfectly correct....why would scum offer that...

Shos, I loves you.


















But don't hate me















I have to endgame you now.

but...378...

I said it because town would say it. Sorry!

well then I'm totally proud in losing to you. you played great. GREAT. and des didn't think his posts through, that helped

If anyone is looking for someone to blame: rat.

no shit i didnt think my posts through

i was town