In post 513, Cerulean wrote:he started that whole thing up with zdenek about the framer yesterday and now I'm not so sure.
That does not make me feel good about him, but I'm biased.
In post 513, Cerulean wrote:Also did noone seriously but me have a problem with Kanye's first post?
People saying that they're not reading bits of the thread seems like pretty standard stuff to me.
Venmar's responses to suspicions are horrible.
Plum's vote on NS is pathetic - I mean there are actually scummy things she could be looking into.
In post 553, Plum wrote:I remember you, but I don't have a strong, clear, distinct memory of your baseline Mafia personality. Not playing with you and playing little Mafia for ~2 years contributes to that sort of thing. I have a vague, general feeling that some of what spurred my vote may be baseline/personality stuff, if you're asking. The issues thus far that the Town needs to deal with regarding you are also not, if the problems are generalized a bit, really truly unique to you. I decided to go for it anyway.
What are these problems you are trying to root out?
In post 564, Tim Howard wrote:Is this really a conducive conversation to be happening? Shadoweh, does Nero Cain strike you as scum right now?
This is the FIRST townish post from this slot. I feel better about letting it live another day now.
-Nobody Special
Doesn't it bother you that they completely ignored that blue is not really a reasonable color to guess for town prs, and that they took steps to shut down the conversation about that by asking Shadow about her read on Nero, which is basically irrelevant to that point? To me it just seems like their focus is off.
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:55 am
by Lost Butterfly
Nero Cain
, Untrod Tripod
Shadoweh - (3):
ChannelDelibird, chamber, Cerulean
Zdenek - (2):
Tim Howard, xRECKONERx
xRECKONERx - (2):
Sixty, Lady Lambdadelta
Nobody Special - (1):
Plum
Plum - (1):
Nobody Special
Not voting - (0):
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With
18
alive it takes
10
to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:
26th of April at 5pm
Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-04-26 12:00:00)
[/area]
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:25 am
by Venmar
In post 575, Zdenek wrote:
Venmar's responses to suspicions are horrible.
or you just dont understand how i play, or the meaning behind the shit i am saying
First, about compromises - Your vote's on someone who we're pretty sure is Town, and equally importantly his wagon isn't going anywhere. Now seems like a pretty good time to compromise. If you don't like the word "compromise" for it, "be at all effective as Town" gets the message across.
But about UT. You accused UT of not reading the game with this incredulous "you can't actually believe this" tone and said you'd compromise "all over" him and made posts like this
Reck 423 wrote:but I feel slimier being on this wagon with Nobody Special and Untrod "Talk Out Of My Ass" Tripod and Shadoweh.
VOTE someone unrelated to all of those people, immediately motivated by his lolroleclaim
and now you're saying "nah he always does this" and saying you're completely null on his alignment. That's quite a backpedal.
We can talk about how attempting to engage with easy targets only about setup speculation and lolroles is pretty easy for scum to do but that would get into a conversation about how your follow-up to this alleged suspicion on Shadoweh was basically a set of personal attacks and attempting to gotcha! your way into a scumslip.
I am curious about one thing, though.
Reck 411 wrote:mmm let's talk about this kats wagon tho
Sure, let's. What about it?
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What UT posted:
UT 570 wrote:I'm pretty sure Sixty is professionally derpy. like, if there was a professional derping league they'd be 3 time league champions. and also I'm starting to rethink my Tim read.
BACK TO THIS
unvote vote Venmar
What I read:
I'm pretty sure I can't accuse Sixty of being scum, but dumb is pretty easy to do. Also my Tim Howard vote is becoming inconvenient.
I initially thought this was Faraday being funny about a prod, but they posted yesterday, this makes no sense.
You two--please post within the next 24 hours if you can.
HEY
LISTEN
WAKE UP
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:54 am
by ChannelDelibird
Huh, could have sworn I'd posted more recently. Might be quite busy tomorrow but I'll do what I can ASAP.
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:03 pm
by ChannelDelibird
Agree with Zdenek that Plum's NS vote seems kinda lazy and dull but her 542, I thiiiink, leans town.
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:12 pm
by ChannelDelibird
If I were going to leave the Shadoweh wagon (which I might, depending on how things go when I have time to read more thoroughly), it would be for the Reck wagon.
I initially thought this was Faraday being funny about a prod, but they posted yesterday, this makes no sense.
You two--please post within the next 24 hours if you can.
HEY
LISTEN
WAKE UP
zzzzzz...
ZZZZZZZ...
:jerks awake:
Yeah, no, we weren't prodded. We just fall asleep sometimes.
We'll be around synching and all tonight, but in the meantime, someone asked if I'd played with Katsuki before. Yes, in Anything Goes, and while I paid more attention to mastin in that hydra (where they were scum) nothing here is inconsistent with scum-Katsuki, so I'm not inclined to ignore his lack of scum hunting. I also recall him being more relevantly engaged under an alt in Mini 1551, so I believe in his ability to play in such a way as town.
Elsewhere Zdenek is becoming a stronger town read for me, and I still don't get good vibes from Venmar. I'll read more closely tonight in the hopes of being more useful.
--PA
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:47 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 544, Venmar wrote:also everything you said about me =/= scum, being "wrong" (which, lol, i still don't think I was) isn't a scumtell
What's the pro-town motivation in miscategorizing the Kats lynch?
I have a town read on Kats
I have kats town meta that suggest its town
I have a scumread on a player voting kat
The seem like the only pro-town reasoning for you to be against a kats lynch and you had none of these so....poo-pooing away a lynch 'cause its a "policy lynch" despite no one even calling it a policy lynch or voting kat 'cause we don't like it.
In post 554, Shadoweh wrote:Nero, you do remember you said "I'm your friendly IC" in your first post, right? Whether he would have actually succeeded in bluffing it despite being the wrong color is irrelevant, because he didn't try, and I thought that was town. Arbitrary is alot easier then trying to read your posting style for me, because I kind of hate your posts.
Yes. I said "I'm your friendly IC." but that's like only 30% of my post
This is my first time ICing and I'll try my hardest to teach ya'll the best I know how. Feel free to ask any questions. Sometime later today/tonight I plan on getting up a lengthy post about the game of mafia but for now I'm interested in ya'lls previous experiences with mafia. Do you play on another site? etc.
but the context of that should have suggested that I wasn't claiming IC as in inno child. + the blue name thing-nerotown seems super dense.
In post 544, Venmar wrote:also everything you said about me =/= scum, being "wrong" (which, lol, i still don't think I was) isn't a scumtell
What's the pro-town motivation in miscategorizing the Kats lynch?
I have a town read on Kats
I have kats town meta that suggest its town
I have a scumread on a player voting kat
The seem like the only pro-town reasoning for you to be against a kats lynch and you had none of these so....poo-pooing away a lynch 'cause its a "policy lynch" despite no one even calling it a policy lynch or voting kat 'cause we don't like it.
Listen, I evaluated it as a policy lynch because:
In post 93, Nero Cain wrote:says the piece of lynchbait that's going to lurk all game.
Here you call Katsuki lynchbait for being likely to lurk?
And.. this is where you vote Katsuki. Okay, so how do you expect me to deduce you are voting Katsuki for anything but him possibly lurking or being a troll? This kind of matches my skimmed evaluation of you voting him for being annoying, and these reasons you said seem to fit criteria for a policy lynch. Okay.. well lets see what else you said after the vote?
In post 300, Nero Cain wrote:this game is pretty boring so far. Kat having no content and instead just screaming and yelling would make for an excellent day 1 lynch. Would not be surprised if Nacho was bussin here.
moar kat votes plox.
Sounds like lynching Kat just for being annoying to me?
In post 534, Nero Cain wrote:Kats has done like jack shit so I feel that's self explanatory.
Good job Nero.
SO HOW THE FUCK, AM I SUPPOSED TO COME TO THIS, GAY, FAKE, FUCKING CONCLUSION:
In post 534, Nero Cain wrote:Other than the unreasonable snarky attitude he's flat out wrong. Sangres voted Kats in 174 and then in 216 heavily implies that she does not like Kat's reaction. My vote on Kats in 201 is 'cause well its not doing anything at all and how the hell can you have a town read on that beyond meta? + I know that Nacho busses and I'm perfectly fine with lynching their buddy. LLD's vote came after Kats reaction so I assumed it was for that but I mean saying "oh you guys are lynching Kat for being Kat and also policy" is defending Kat while not having a town read seem totes scum-motivated.
HOW AM I WRONGLY DISCATEGORIZING YOUR FUCKING GODAWFUL PEICE OF SHIT VOTE WHEN YOU SEEM TO HAVE VOTED KATSUKI EXACTLY FOR THE REASONS I SUSPECTED? GO. DIE.
holy fuck
im done
im done
vote: nero cain
learn to play this fucking game
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:40 pm
by Venmar
nero can take his contradictory, fake ass somewhere else
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:55 pm
by Sixty
In post 590, Venmar wrote:SO HOW THE FUCK, AM I SUPPOSED TO COME TO THIS, GAY, FAKE, FUCKING CONCLUSION
Let's calm down with the slurs, shall we?
Playing bad != being scum, while we are at it. Take off the :justice: hat and vote actual scum.
Like Reck!
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:18 pm
by Shadoweh
You two don't know me well enough to pick me, what is this. <_<
Also, I'm not going to talk about this blue name thing anymore, it's making me disgusted with bullshit semantics. I keep putting a remark here to follow that up but they all sound really bitter and snarky so I'm just going to leave them deleted.
There's alot of rage in this game. <.< You should probs not vote Nero for you being angry at him, it's hypocritical considering the comments about Katsuki policy. You don't seem like you think he's scum man, stop voting him. :/
I don't.. think... Reck actually has a scum read on me? Did he say that somewhere besides the 'slimey wagon' part? He's not treating me like someone he's suspicious of anyways, and I think it would have been easy to vote me earlier if he was faking a scum read. I'm kind of having an Everyone Looks Town crisis and I have no idea how to snap out of it.
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:06 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 578, Sixty wrote:We can talk about how attempting to engage with easy targets only about setup speculation and lolroles is pretty easy for scum to do but that would get into a conversation about how your follow-up to this alleged suspicion on Shadoweh was basically a set of personal attacks and attempting to gotcha! your way into a scumslip.
whaaaaat
no she was just bein a cunt
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:09 pm
by Untrod Tripod
like. I really don't get this at all.
Tierce knows how to play mafia. Vi knows how to play mafia. Why is it that their hydra can't? And is using some weird dog fursona.
In post 513, Cerulean wrote:Also did noone seriously but me have a problem with Kanye's first post?
People saying that they're not reading bits of the thread seems like pretty standard stuff to me.
But iirc Kanye gets his best reads from the first few pages of the game. Empire says that he thought it was just MattP, but I'm pretty sure it's Kanye too. In the Wizards game, this bothered me too and I let it go, but I'm pretty sure this just isn't ordinary for kanye.
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:18 pm
by xRECKONERx
ittts bc theyre not godo theyir names r just pretty
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:19 pm
by xRECKONERx
that wa s at ut im gointo to get water abecause i think ill puke
