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(nods) I am very interested to see what mneme has to say here. I haven't really seen any major scum tells from either one, honestly.
I'm also wondering of mneme is going to change his earlier opinion, back when he said:
I'm also wondering of mneme is going to change his earlier opinion, back when he said:
mneme wrote: First, it seems to indicate that Albert's probably not scum.
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
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We would like to inform you that less than 24 hours remain until the end of this game cycle. All voters must vote before the deadline or otherwise be modkilled. The deadline will not be extended for any absences or any other reason at all. Prods have been sent to all those that have not yet voted.
First to three will win the primary!
Game Status: Cycle 4
Deadline to Lynch - 23:59 EDT 7 July 2007
Deadline to Lynch - 23:59 EDT 7 July 2007
Votes to Save
Albert B. Rampage
(1) - Mr Stoofermneme
(0) -First to three will win the primary!
Sup, later.
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Those of you wanting a response from mneme are largely whistling in the wind, he's said he's away until tomorrow.
I'm not buying Stoofer's sudden conversion to 'hard lynches.' Nor does Albert's claim that mneme is going after easy lynches hold up -he's not been doing so any more than anyone else. Dylan was lynched unanimously, remember, Albert is trying to make what looks to me like sincere annoyance with Sparks (the 'come get some' comment, an annoyance I- and most of those players who were around D1) to be some kind of scumtactic. It also sits very uneasily with me that Albert was so unwilling to share his case on mneme with us (and still hasn't shared his case on me).
I voted BM, so did Stoof, so did Stewie, and Dylan who we know to have been (albeit really bad) town, why do Mneme's votes stand out? This has been a remarkably consensual town thus far-
It looks a lot like Albert's trying to make mneme out to be really scummy, for finding someone who looked really scummy...scummy. I don't like the way mneme basically ignores Dean in his calculus for today, and use it to come to a false conclusion, but... I still find him much the scummier, and Stoof's 'I think they're probably both town' is just a brilliant way to avoid voting a buddy, whilst simultaneously distancing yourself from the lynch of a townie that goes along with it.
Albert and Stoof. Bookmark it.
I'm not buying Stoofer's sudden conversion to 'hard lynches.' Nor does Albert's claim that mneme is going after easy lynches hold up -he's not been doing so any more than anyone else. Dylan was lynched unanimously, remember, Albert is trying to make what looks to me like sincere annoyance with Sparks (the 'come get some' comment, an annoyance I- and most of those players who were around D1) to be some kind of scumtactic. It also sits very uneasily with me that Albert was so unwilling to share his case on mneme with us (and still hasn't shared his case on me).
I voted BM, so did Stoof, so did Stewie, and Dylan who we know to have been (albeit really bad) town, why do Mneme's votes stand out? This has been a remarkably consensual town thus far-
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people thought both Dylan and Sparks were both scum. It looks a lot like Albert's trying to make mneme out to be really scummy, for finding someone who looked really scummy...scummy. I don't like the way mneme basically ignores Dean in his calculus for today, and use it to come to a false conclusion, but... I still find him much the scummier, and Stoof's 'I think they're probably both town' is just a brilliant way to avoid voting a buddy, whilst simultaneously distancing yourself from the lynch of a townie that goes along with it.
Albert and Stoof. Bookmark it.
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Game Status: End of Cycle 4
Deadline to Lynch - 23:59 EDT 7 July 2007
Deadline to Lynch - 23:59 EDT 7 July 2007
Votes to Save
Albert B. Rampage
(3) - Mr Stoofer, VanDamien, Yosarian2mneme
(3) - The Fonz, Stewie, DeanWinchester
As per rules of FSOCL debate primaries, in the case of a tie, the last vote will be disregarded. Therefore, Albert B. Rampage has won the debate!
It appears that the public in FSOCL was widely split on mneme's platform on the concept of making the kareoke Whitney version of I Will Always Love You as the national anthem. It appears that the Dolly Parton version quickly gained support and overrided supporters for mneme. Therefore mneme, minor party candidate has been lynched!
New deadlines:
Game Status: Cycle 5
Deadline to Challenge: Sometime between the 11th and 12th of July
Deadline to Lynch - 23:59 EDT 15 July 2007
Deadline to Challenge: Sometime between the 11th and 12th of July
Deadline to Lynch - 23:59 EDT 15 July 2007
Reminder: If a member of the conservative mafia is not eliminated by the end of this cycle, the conservatives will equal or outnumber all others and thus will win the game.
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Sup, later.
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Jesus, you're trying the baseless OMGUS argument AGAIN? I'd actually be less suspicious of youAlbert B. Rampage wrote:Fonz at this point I can only take your accusations as OMGUS.
had you set out a case on me
, rather than saying you had one, then sitting on it. I've made quite clear why I think Stoofer is scum, and you're almost certain to be his scumbuddy. If you have a specific objection to any of the points I've made, make it. Just trying to wave your magic 'It's all OMGUS!' wand didn't work the last time, and it won't this.- Stewie
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I'm wondering why yos decided to vote to lynch mneme. I know mneme didn't get back in time to respond to Albert's posts, but were they really that compelling?
This situation kinda sucks because we basically need the whole town and VD to back us up. ATM, the only person I'm fairly sure is town is The Fonz. I completely agree with his Albert-Stoofer theory, and I think that the last scum after that is either Yos or Dean; due to yesterday's turn of events, most likely yos. Having said that, I think we should go after stoofer first. The only reason we are pairing him with albert is because of something he said, so it's only fair to go after him first.
This situation kinda sucks because we basically need the whole town and VD to back us up. ATM, the only person I'm fairly sure is town is The Fonz. I completely agree with his Albert-Stoofer theory, and I think that the last scum after that is either Yos or Dean; due to yesterday's turn of events, most likely yos. Having said that, I think we should go after stoofer first. The only reason we are pairing him with albert is because of something he said, so it's only fair to go after him first.
nom: stoofer
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Well, although most of the connections run Stoof-Albert rather than the other way, I think it is pretty notable the manner in which Albert picked up on mneme 'going after easy lynches' whilst ignoring the fact that his arguments coincided with Stoofer's most of the time.
That said, I
That said, I
am
slightly more sure of Stoofer's scumminess than Albert's. I could see Stoofer-Dean-Yos as an outside possibility, but I can't think of an Albert scumgroup that doesn't also include Stoofer.Nom: Mr Stoofer
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[quote="Stewie"]I'm wondering why yos decided to vote to lynch mneme. I know mneme didn't get back in time to respond to Albert's posts, but were they really that compelling?[/qutoe]
I didn't have much time to decide, I had to go in to work at 2:00 pm. That, and somehow I misread the mod post and temporarally wasn't sure if it was noon or midnight the vote had to be cast by in order to avoid a modkill.
In any case, both sides were looking fairly pro-town to me at the time. Albert did raise some decent points about mneme, and in that "holy crap I have to vote right now" moment, Albert just seemed like a better vote.
I didn't have much time to decide, I had to go in to work at 2:00 pm. That, and somehow I misread the mod post and temporarally wasn't sure if it was noon or midnight the vote had to be cast by in order to avoid a modkill.
In any case, both sides were looking fairly pro-town to me at the time. Albert did raise some decent points about mneme, and in that "holy crap I have to vote right now" moment, Albert just seemed like a better vote.
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
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Hmm...well I don't particularly remember when I used that argument before. But yeah, I'm not much in a position to attack you anymore now that mneme was just minor political party...The Fonz wrote:Jesus, you're trying the baseless OMGUS argument AGAIN? I'd actually be less suspicious of youAlbert B. Rampage wrote:Fonz at this point I can only take your accusations as OMGUS.had you set out a case on me, rather than saying you had one, then sitting on it. I've made quite clear why I think Stoofer is scum, and you're almost certain to be his scumbuddy. If you have a specific objection to any of the points I've made, make it. Just trying to wave your magic 'It's all OMGUS!' wand didn't work the last time, and it won't this.
Like I said, I haven't used the "OMGUS!" argument anywhere - in this game at least. I have however, gotten very bad anti-town vibes from you, which I've mentioned in my first post; that's the reason why I think your just going after me because I went after you.
Regarding the Stoofer issue...I think he's innocent, and the scum are probably Dean, Yosarian and yourself, Fonz. I understand I've become a very likely target, and I will take care to build thicker cases in the future.
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I was referring to JD Mafia, where you made the exact same kinda 'your accusations must be baseless or OMGUS' argument after I attacked you for railroading a newbish townie.
Also, please explain why you think Yos and Dean are scum. It might be useful in working out which one is the third con.
Oh, the blatant scum has gotten a bad vibe off of me! Lynch me now![/sarcasm]Albert B. Rampage wrote: I have however, gotten very bad anti-town vibes from you, which I've mentioned in my first post;
Except you didn't go after me. At all. You said you were going to, but you never actually did. What you did do is go after a townsperson, mneme, with rubbish arguments, and somehow and I still can't for the life of me figure out how, managed to win the challenge.that's the reason why I think your just going after me because I went after you.
Also, please explain why you think Yos and Dean are scum. It might be useful in working out which one is the third con.
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:eyebrow:Albert B. Rampage wrote: Regarding the Stoofer issue...I think he's innocent, and the scum are probably Dean, Yosarian and yourself, Fonz. I understand I've become a very likely target, and I will take care to build thicker cases in the future.
Could you explain WHY you think I'm scum, Albert?
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
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I'm likeing any challenge that involves albert or stoofer. Alberts save yesterday seemed odd. His case against mneme was week, his decision on who to attack seemed really wierd, and how quick he got votes to save himself seemed wierd.
Not to mention stoofers post guiding albert away from challeging some one he thinks he can beat to someone he thinks is scum, seems alot like scum coaching now. If albert can't challenge than I'm fine with
Not to mention stoofers post guiding albert away from challeging some one he thinks he can beat to someone he thinks is scum, seems alot like scum coaching now. If albert can't challenge than I'm fine with
Nom. stoofer
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*shrug*Yosarian2 wrote::eyebrow:Albert B. Rampage wrote: Regarding the Stoofer issue...I think he's innocent, and the scum are probably Dean, Yosarian and yourself, Fonz. I understand I've become a very likely target, and I will take care to build thicker cases in the future.
Could you explain WHY you think I'm scum, Albert?
Possible pairing I guess. Dean was under a lot of heat, but he somehow survived until now; you and Stoofer had your own little argument thing going on, and I believe Stoofer had the upper hand.
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