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Well he's not explaining it at all, his explanation is "read the game" which I'm reluctant to do since I'm reading 2 other games in addition to this one

In post 548, Creeps20 wrote:

In post 547, Drone wrote:

In post 529, ChaosOmega wrote:
Other players...

ThinkBig's iso looks pretty ok to me. Anyone that's scumreading him, mind showing me what you're seeing there?

Drone, why did you unvote TwoFace? And why are you not voting Misa?

Agree on TB case.

About mine: me not voting Misa is a direct outcome of the inactivity I spoke of, where I meant the replacements and lots of others being inactive (you, TB and Creeps) when I said I can't work with the inactivity.
Not to mention Misa is replacing out, sometimes it's not the slot, but the players that make the difference.
I just can't focus right now with the recent events. Need things to get back to order.

TF unvote is because I feel my reads on him are based on huge and sad misread on both TF's, and Copper's sides.
To keep the vote I have to be sure I'm doing the right thing, and to be sure I'll have to ISO TF, again.

Not inactive. Scared to post.
VOTE: misa

How do you know? If I'm recalling correctly, at one point you said were scared to post, why does her being scared to post make her scum and why does the reasoning you're hopefully going to give me to justify your vote, not apply to you?

In post 556, Creeps20 wrote:

In post 552, TwoFace wrote:I wouldn't object to a misa lynch. Much better than a TB lynch. Not as good as a copper or HS lynch though.

Copper feels townish. Let's see what is going on with his replacement shall we?

@mortfield entirely different that when I played with her.

Oh and I was not stating that. I was referring upon myself.

Twoface wrong thread

Different doesn't necessarily mean she's scum though. I'm just having trouble understanding your vote as well anyone currently voting for the slot at the moment.

In post 552, TwoFace wrote:I wouldn't object to a misa lynch. Much better than a TB lynch. Not as good as a copper or HS lynch though.

We are not lynching anyone until we have all replacements.

Just trying to be considerate to cooper's potentially replacement.

In post 577, Toto wrote:

In post 552, TwoFace wrote:I wouldn't object to a misa lynch. Much better than a TB lynch. Not as good as a copper or HS lynch though.

We are not lynching anyone until we have all replacements.

This.

Not understanding the rush really. I don't expect this game to pick up until next week.

Welcome, Nero! Your slot has said nothing all game. Looking forward to seeing what you have to say.

Mort, Uzi and Chaos are reading town to me. Chaos weaker than the others. Copper's slot reads town to me.

Don't pressure nero too much. He's got essays to catch up to.

In post 538, TwoFace wrote:no hs has been on my scumdar for a while, the fact that he is avoiding such a simple question doesn't help him though.

Could you please give me a detailed post citing why you believe I'm scum?
You're treating Copper and I as confirmed scum and I don't believe either of us have done enough to warrant that read. I want to understand.

In post 549, TwoFace wrote:@mort. You have issues with tb using other people's reasons yet you don't balk when HS just sheeps you despite voting you previously. That didn't raise any red flags?

In post 409 Mort made a very good point about a contradiction in TB's actions.
Mort had good logic. It makes sense I would follow that logic. That's consistent with a townie mindset, wouldn't you agree?

I forgot to mention, TF is reading extremely town to me.

I really would prefer more pressure on TB.

If push comes to shove I could easily see myself on a Misa lynch today, but it depends on how their replacement acts.

Okay, cool. Can someone catch me up on what's happened so far?

Hey man.
Your slot got into an argument with TwoFace about dumb semantics.
I'm reading you as town HOLY SHIT AUSBROS
SHITPOST KINGS

The two main suspects at the moment are ThinkBig and Misa's slot. I recommend at least reading over the thread w/ Mort, Copper and Twoface to get a general idea of where you stand in the game.

Alright, I'll read that. Thanks.

In post 587, DeathByWobbuffet wrote:Okay, cool. Can someone catch me up on what's happened so far?

You're scum. My condolences

In post 582, Human Sequencer wrote:Could you please give me a detailed post citing why you believe I'm scum?
You're treating Copper and I as confirmed scum and I don't believe either of us have done enough to warrant that read. I want to understand.

Sure I could but that would take time away from trying to lynch copper

In post 589, DeathByWobbuffet wrote:Alright, I'll read that. Thanks.

I honestly wouldn't put much effort into this game. You won't be around very long.

In fact, since we have a few people replacing in, I'll do a quick summary.

Creeps got wagoned for being obvscum first, but there was a bit of debate over how obvious it was. Currently I think the general consensus is that he's clearly playing like shit regardless, and his alignment is hard to tell. I don't think he'll reach lylo.
Misa was the secondary wagon. Opinions on her, who has now chosen to replace out, varies heavily. I personally read her as scummy, and wouldn't mind lynching her next to TB. The Misa wagon has kind of survived throughout this whole time.
At this point (post 178), Mort tried to get a wagon started on Copper for a debatably flaky reason, which started a pseudo-wagon on him that TwoFace and ThinkBig jumped on (post 202).
Copper and TwoFace start arguing over what lynchbait means, while Copper deduces that one of the people who jumped on his wagon were likely to be scum (I agree). He first tries to get momentum on Mort, but later starts reading him as town and then switches to ThinkBig. Copper disregards TwoFace as VI, and therefore reads him as town. Drone and I come back from real life stuff and read Mort as scum in his interaction with Copper, and we both vote him. I later read Mort as town and retract my vote. Drone later changes his mind too.
It's worth mentioning that if either Mort or TwoFace flip scum, the other is a very likely scum candidate, but I highly doubt TwoFace will flip scum at this point.
Mort and I agree on TB, and jump on the wagon with Copper. TB has been mostly inactive and V/LA for the entire game so far.
Around page 19 people start posting some readslists, this could be a nice place to read over to get a general idea of what people think of each other. Naomi also posted one a page or so back.
At this point Copper requests a replacement because he disagrees with the rules Key is upholding. At the same time, lohik and misa lurk out.
Now we're pretty much back up to speed.
I've tried to be as objective as possible in this recollection, , you've all been pretty impartial to what's gone on so far. Do you agree that this is a fair recollection of the events leading up to this point?

@Naomi
I caught this on a reread, forgot to ask earlier
What's 'Vert-slim'?
Also, thanks for the tea.

PS. Wobbuffet
Ignore TwoFace he's like the only person scumreading you to my knowledge.

So TwoFace scumreads me for... what reason exactly? Because my slot got into an argument with him over the definition of a role?

An argument over the definition of the word 'Lynchbait' and how that influences each others' reads.

Creeps got wagoned for being obvscum first, but there was a bit of debate over how obvious it was. Currently I think the general consensus is that he's clearly playing like shit regardless, and his alignment is hard to tell. I don't think he'll reach lylo.

Misa was the secondary wagon. Opinions on her, who has now chosen to replace out, varies heavily. I personally read her as scummy, and wouldn't mind lynching her next to TB. The Misa wagon has kind of survived throughout this whole time.

At this point (post 178), Mort tried to get a wagon started on Copper for a debatably flaky reason, which started a pseudo-wagon on him that TwoFace and ThinkBig jumped on (post 202).

Copper and TwoFace start arguing over what lynchbait means, while Copper deduces that one of the people who jumped on his wagon were likely to be scum (I agree). He first tries to get momentum on Mort, but later starts reading him as town and then switches to ThinkBig. Copper disregards TwoFace as VI, and therefore reads him as town. Drone and I come back from real life stuff and read Mort as scum in his interaction with Copper, and we both vote him. I later read Mort as town and retract my vote. Drone later changes his mind too.

It's worth mentioning that if either Mort or TwoFace flip scum, the other is a very likely scum candidate, but I highly doubt TwoFace will flip scum at this point.
Mort and I agree on TB, and jump on the wagon with Copper. TB has been mostly inactive and V/LA for the entire game so far.

Around page 19 people start posting some readslists, this could be a nice place to read over to get a general idea of what people think of each other. Naomi also posted one a page or so back.
At this point Copper requests a replacement because he disagrees with the rules Key is upholding. At the same time, lohik and misa lurk out.
Now we're pretty much back up to speed.

Made it a little more readable.

In post 594, DeathByWobbuffet wrote:So TwoFace scumreads me for... what reason exactly? Because my slot got into an argument with him over the definition of a role?

Nope try again.

In post 595, Human Sequencer wrote:An argument over the definition of the word 'Lynchbait' and how that influences each others' reads.

Why are you acting like that's the reason when it's not. I even quoted and explained it's

Also

Answer my question already.

What's your opinion of copper blatantly lying about TBs activity. I shouldn't have to ask you this many times.

In post 597, TwoFace wrote:

In post 594, DeathByWobbuffet wrote:So TwoFace scumreads me for... what reason exactly? Because my slot got into an argument with him over the definition of a role?

Nope try again.

So what is your reasoning? Care to explain? Or don't you feel like answering that?