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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:12 pm

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I actually think I'm past newb benefit here. I've played several games at this point. Around 7 or 8. I'm usually much more on point than this. You can meta on this site and see that clearly. I admit, I'm flaking on you guys this game. As I said, I bit off more than I could chew with mafia games. Hopefully, some time will free up for me soon so I can make it up to you guys for flaking. However, I don't hold it against you that (given my performance thus far) you are considering me for the noose. I mean, I'm town, but a mislynch still yields information. So there's that.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:15 pm

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In post 575, vulcan logician wrote:I actually think I'm past newb benefit here. I've played several games at this point. Around 7 or 8. I'm usually much more on point than this. You can meta on this site and see that clearly. I admit, I'm flaking on you guys this game. As I said, I bit off more than I could chew with mafia games. Hopefully, some time will free up for me soon so I can make it up to you guys for flaking. However, I don't hold it against you that (given my performance thus far) you are considering me for the noose. I mean, I'm town, but a mislynch still yields information. So there's that.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:17 pm

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glad you are here and talking with us Vulcan
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:19 pm

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Yeah... interaction is the best way to go. Speeches and long analyses are nice but ya gotta talk real time to get a good emo read I think.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:20 pm

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@scioness what's your read on ofrhz
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:21 pm

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i hate walls tbf

vulcan, what informations do you think your mislycnh would yield us? also have you read those things that Ircher has quoted?

p.edit - town of a gutread, not feeling teacher yet though
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:30 pm

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meh i don't feel like answering that last wall from nancy, it will have to wait.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:32 pm

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In post 580, Scioness Sajj wrote: vulcan, what informations do you think your mislycnh would yield us? also have you read those things that Ircher has quoted?
It's hard to say what information could be yielded from my mislynch. Sometimes mislynches are very informative. Sometimes they're not. I think that (in this gamestate) with so few active players, it stands that at least one scum would have to join the wagon. Ofc, I might be wrong about that too.

Yes, I've read Ircher's quotes.
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:44 pm

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welp, guess you really want to leave us if you are using information as an argument for you lynch but can't really say if and what info we would get.

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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:47 pm

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I don't really want to be lynched... just pointing out that there could be a silver lining. That's all.
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:50 pm

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why you like them rampage pots tho
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:56 pm

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They seem information-seeking rather than agenda-driven. FWIW, scum can feign info-seeking, but it usually indicates towniness.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 1:58 pm

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okay about therampage - i feel like most of the things he has posted are more likely to come from scum than from town.

- i feel like this entrance is scummy. seems to me that making first content post with a vote comes from a need to make good first impression (i have done that and it was done in one of game i have played).

i think like his scumreads are opportunistic. i haven't really check but i believe that he has been on both biggest wagons (ofrhz and ircher).

meta - he disagrees with meta reading people, he goes as far as arguing with nsg about it but recently said that he doesn't have many reads because he never played with people from this game before. not sure what to think about this tbh.

he also hasn't asked a single question this game.

- generally, i don't like his case against ircher. he is presenting us the narrative that ircher pretends to be too bad to be scum, be i have never got that impression. the voting thing... eh, i wouldn't scum read anybody of erratic voting patterns really.
might be my tinfoil hat showing be he uses 'i feel' so much in this posts that it makes the post feel really unnatural.

plus, the lack of interest towards his slot makes me think that mafia is not interested in pushing here because he is mafia?
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 2:02 pm

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In post 586, vulcan logician wrote:They seem information-seeking rather than agenda-driven. FWIW, scum can feign info-seeking, but it usually indicates towniness.
Eh, how are they info-seeking?

Like, I am biased, but I feel that his posts are pushing a scum agenda by trying to strongarm (exaggeration but whatever) a mislynch on me for reasons that I 1) think are weak and 2) think are flat out incorrect.
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 2:05 pm

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Like @Vulcan, can you point to a specific post and explain your read on it? (For Rampage I mean.)
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 2:08 pm

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Hmmmm. I see your point. Certainly uses "I feel" to much. Maybe just not good at articulating? His 523 "narrative" is neither scum nor town to me. Two ways to read it: perhaps scum spinning a yarn and throwing shade-- perhaps town trying to get in Ircher's head to see why he might be doing the things he is doing. Looking for motivations behind people actions is a good thing. It indicates the right sort of thinking.
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 2:09 pm

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But @Vulcan, I don't think Rampage has really engaged me at all with his case, and he seemed to ignore my argument against my case. Again, I don't really see what you are seeing in Rampage.
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 2:11 pm

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alright, we have 21 hours and five wagons. time to jump dead nancy wagon, i don't think it will get solved this day phase and i didn't really push it so.

VOTE: therampage
but because i'm me i will hammer anybody but myself if we were in a danger of no lynch.
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 2:11 pm

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Scioness, actually the biggest band wagon was Vulcan, who got to L-1. I feel like Vulcan is town and seems disinterested in what happens to him. I think Ircher is losing his mind more then Vulcan did at L-1. Only suck or a power role would lose it like that, and a power role would try to be less noticeable in my opinion. I have noticed non power roles will defend themselves, but not overly because it is better they be lynched then a power role, take Vulcan. I also feel like you are kind of low key protecting Ircher by trying to push on me, without actually openly protecting him. I say we lynch Ircher and if flips scum, we target you. If he is town, I will willingly sacrifice myself for the good of the town.
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 2:12 pm

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Scum or a power role*
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 2:12 pm

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BEETLEJUICED
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 2:12 pm

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Rampage, I more or less started the initial Vulcan wagon. I temporarily jumped to Draynth (and I explained that), but otherwise, I've been on them for 70+% of the day.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 2:12 pm

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In post 576, Scioness Sajj wrote:(yes, im trying to beetlejuice her)
hey, it worked!

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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 2:13 pm

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In post 595, Scioness Sajj wrote:BEETLEJUICED
Yeah, I think that counts:
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 2:13 pm

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In post 597, northsidegal wrote:
In post 576, Scioness Sajj wrote:(yes, im trying to beetlejuice her)
hey, it worked!

sorry, been spending most of my time around here doing modding stuff (modding two games right now), really want to give this game more of my attention
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