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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:15 pm
by northsidegal
In post 572, DVa wrote:why I should heal you
to make me the chara of this game (aka the most healed player) and help fuel my ego as to how oh so obvtown i am of course? :wink:

in all seriousness, i'm not very concerned if you heal me or not (rude as that may sound i mean no offense)
In post 572, DVa wrote:But if you just refuse to be in my coalition I'm at a loss of what to do now
well, wouldn't you say that me refusing to heal you and me "refusing to be in your coalition" are two different things? after all, i don't necessarily have to heal you for you to heal me.

i would ask why i'm some kind of arbiter of what you're doing and why me not townreading you leaves you at a loss of what to do when there are plenty of other people in the game, and i would say that if you're looking for something to do it would be to try to sort the other players in the game and talk more about them

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:18 pm
by skitter30
In post 572, DVa wrote:
In post 564, northsidegal wrote:what do you want to discuss?
why I should heal you

lol it's hard when you keep saying you don't want me in your coalition, but that's kinda why I want you in my coalition.
I really feel like you aren't trying to pocket me but I also feel like your skepticism feels natural from a town POV.
Like I feel pretty good about your slot, and I liked your self-meta earlier. But if you just refuse to be in my coalition I'm at a loss of what to do now
i mean it's not like she can stop you from healing her
i'm kinda having trouble with the bolded - why are you bringing up pocketing here?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:19 pm
by northsidegal
In post 574, skitter30 wrote:i mean when i read it i thought it was nai, maybe a little buddying-y but he'd been townreading you the whole time so it felt kinda in-line with how he'd been approaching you the whole game
i suppose. what i'm saying is based off of just how i would play things as scum, which is that if everyone were being inactive i would likely not be one to prod people back to activity. there is still the point of him saying information which i don't actually know how many people know

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:19 pm
by DVa
There's plenty of other scummier people in the game, like at this point I want an actual coalition, not a theoretical coalition

but ok

HEAL: NSG

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:19 pm
by northsidegal
TDW let's say that we take out robot, DVA and maaybe take out skitter. who do you add (you can add skitter back if you really convince me)?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:19 pm
by DVa
In post 576, skitter30 wrote:why are you bringing up pocketing here?
in both of my last two completed games, the scum win condition was pocketing me. (they lost both times but it felt closer than it should have both times)

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:21 pm
by skitter30
i thought the december thing was a meme that i didn't know about

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:21 pm
by northsidegal
well i've never pocketed someone by calling them scum nearly all game, so i don't think you'll have too much to worry about

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:21 pm
by northsidegal
In post 581, skitter30 wrote:i thought the december thing was a meme that i didn't know about
it's true.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:22 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 570, DVa wrote:Gamma:
In post 5, Gamma Emerald wrote:Thank god the game finally started
Also thank god I’m Town
Unfortunately I have a less well-known table to work with (though not by much of a margin I think, just by 1 parson)
But I also have less confidence in my ability to read this table
In post 21, Gamma Emerald wrote:Overreaction spotted
VOTE: YurikoJasmine
This last post, idk it's what I was waiting to see show up in Witches Ball

It seemed like you were engaged early here in a way I just haven't seen in your scum games I've read

Do you think you get into it early like this as scum?
Sometimes
Which games did you read
Also how much exp do you have with me on your main

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:22 pm
by The Dark Wanderer
Raya is an easy inclusion, I would have to think about who to add following that. Probably Gamma Emerald.

i would add that I think that DVa's major reach-out post to me is something that I think would be a lot harder for scum to fake than you're giving credit for, but I was worried about them for a while so I'm fine excluding them either way.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:22 pm
by Gamma Emerald
But I see and I’ll remove the scumpoint

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:23 pm
by skitter30
In post 580, DVa wrote:
In post 576, skitter30 wrote:why are you bringing up pocketing here?
in both of my last two completed games, the scum win condition was pocketing me. (they lost both times but it felt closer than it should have both times)
do you think that's the scum wincon for this game?

(ie are you saying that you think that scum would be trying to pocket you here and that nsg is townie for not doing so?)

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:23 pm
by Gamma Emerald
@TDW I have some questions I’d like answered

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:24 pm
by The Dark Wanderer
My attention is divided for a little while longer but I'll be fully invested in this game momentarily.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:24 pm
by DVa
In post 584, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also how much exp do you have with me on your main
We've had some games together. I don't want to spoil the surprise tho :P

I do have experience with your scum game if that's what you're wondering

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:24 pm
by skitter30
dva what do you think about the way gamma is approaching this game (ie the intensive reading of every post etc)?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:28 pm
by DVa
In post 587, skitter30 wrote:do you think that's the scum wincon for this game?

(ie are you saying that you think that scum would be trying to pocket you here and that nsg is townie for not doing so?)
I thought so for most of this game, now I'm not sure anymore, I'm doubting a lot of stuff rn

It is possible that one of the scum is trying to simply discredit me

It would be presumptuous to assume one tries to pocket, the other tries to shade, but it's possible. That would seem to fit the scum meta strategy some others were discussing earlier

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:29 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 590, DVa wrote:
In post 584, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also how much exp do you have with me on your main
We've had some games together. I don't want to spoil the surprise tho :P

I do have experience with your scum game if that's what you're wondering
Ok
So which have you read?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:29 pm
by DVa
In post 591, skitter30 wrote:dva what do you think about the way gamma is approaching this game (ie the intensive reading of every post etc)?
I think Gamma flips a coin on whether he does that or not, the choice of reading posts is NAI, what matters is the content and thought it generates. He has skipped hundreds of pages as town and done detailed reactions as scum, and he has done detailed analysis as town and basically afk'd as scum. The most important thing in sorting Gamma is feeling like his reactions are genuine.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:30 pm
by The Dark Wanderer
i think you underestimate your 'pull' if it surprises you that you being active made everyone start posting, northsidegal.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:31 pm
by skitter30
In post 592, DVa wrote:
In post 587, skitter30 wrote:do you think that's the scum wincon for this game?

(ie are you saying that you think that scum would be trying to pocket you here and that nsg is townie for not doing so?)
I thought so for most of this game, now I'm not sure anymore, I'm doubting a lot of stuff rn

It is possible that one of the scum is trying to simply discredit me

It would be presumptuous to assume one tries to pocket, the other tries to shade, but it's possible. That would seem to fit the scum meta strategy some others were discussing earlier
pocket you in particular or pocket townies in general?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:33 pm
by skitter30
In post 594, DVa wrote:
In post 591, skitter30 wrote:dva what do you think about the way gamma is approaching this game (ie the intensive reading of every post etc)?
I think Gamma flips a coin on whether he does that or not, the choice of reading posts is NAI, what matters is the content and thought it generates. He has skipped hundreds of pages as town and done detailed reactions as scum, and he has done detailed analysis as town and basically afk'd as scum. The most important thing in sorting Gamma is feeling like his reactions are genuine.
i kinda feel like he's using it as a way to kinda like avoid interacting seriously in real time

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:35 pm
by northsidegal
In post 595, The Dark Wanderer wrote:i think you underestimate your 'pull' if it surprises you that you being active made everyone start posting, northsidegal.
i suppose so. it's just a strange thing to think about when i feel so unbelievably washed up (especially recently)

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:37 pm
by The Dark Wanderer
to be clear I have no intent of commenting further on the december post because I would prefer to be read on my play's merits rather than what is essentially OGI.