Open 750: Forest Fire (Game Over)

[Vedith]

How I feel right now tbh

That's why we have to discuss more.
The next thing we need to look at is avoided lynches.
Scum won't want their doused target to be lynched so my comment on Slaxx was never a push by scun could be wrong and I need to review that.

[Vedith]

But it's 2am and I have work im 5 hours.
So I'll continue tomorrow although I won't be at my PC until Saturday now.

[TTTT]

and I'm often NK'd N1 or N2

This is false.
TTTT has 3 games killed night 1 (2 being far back going to 2018 and the last 1 ended at the start of Jan)
3/4 games killed night 2 and again, these aren't recent.

TTTT actually survives a high % of games and wins or end game.

Why would you have the mentality of not wanting to be an early kill (keeping in mind you can't die until night 2) when there's at least 10 games from your last N1 death completed.
When I'm at my PC I'll pull these stats up correctly.

I count 7/19 N1 or N2 deaths in town games on my spreadsheet
and 2 more N3 when I replaced in day2or3
so yeah not as often as it feels like
you are right that I'm surviving a lot of games
this is a recent thing since I came back in December
last time around (2016-2017) I was NK'd 7/9 games as town

[TTTT]

Why would you have the mentality of not wanting to be an early kill (keeping in mind you can't die until night 2) when there's at least 10 games from your last N1 death completed.

new experiences man
and I had this stupid idea that people would listen to my reads more if I was a voteless IC
^I already said this

[Vedith]

Btw I'm hard claiming fireman as Scum won't CC me today not knowing my targets but I feel tomorrow if not over and town lynched I get CC and lynched.

[TTTT]

I mean I tried to hint that I was playing for the lynch here...

If I had to mis lynch a town and a tree I would want it to be Pers because I'd rather him in the game than just killed at night.

Nice, someone finally realizes the implications of the mechanic.

Nice, someone finally realizes the implications of the mechanic.

"finally"?
it's like you aren't even reading my posts

Pedit: Here we go!

[Vedith]

new experiences man
and I had this stupid idea that people would listen to my reads more if I was a voteless IC
^I already said this

Okay that's fair.
7 out of 19 is actually higher than what stats I was thinking while looking.
I take back my opinion on the situation.

[TTTT]

I mean I'm not defending it as smart or anything
in fact I learned a valuable lesson here today to not be an idiot all game because I form reads best through interactions
but I am defending that I did it on purpose

[Vedith]

I also doubt that I would have been doused given how I played so I think it's the best play to make here

[TTTT]

Btw I'm hard claiming fireman as Scum won't CC me today not knowing my targets but I feel tomorrow if not over and town lynched I get CC and lynched.

I can't think of reason why scum would fake-claim this here
given the game-state

[Vedith]

I mean I'm not defending it as smart or anything
in fact I learned a valuable lesson here today to not be an idiot all game because I form reads best through interactions
but I am defending that I did it on purpose

I actually believe it and your post to Pers makes sense now.

[Vedith]

Egix please give reads on each individually and in what order you have everyone as town to Scum.

Right I'm really going to bed now.

[volxen]

Searching for a replacement for Persivul.

[volxen]

Votecount 3.02

Egix96 (0):

BuJaber (1): rb (537)

Vedith (0):

TTTT (1): BuJaber (501)

Lovebird (0):

Persivul (0):

rb (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting (5):

Egix96, Vedith, TTTT, Lovebird, Persivul

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch. If 4 players vote for a No Lynch, then the day will end early with no lynch.

Tree-stumps(2): themilkcartonkid, Slaxx

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-03-12 19:00:00).

[BuJaber]

Btw I'm hard claiming fireman as Scum won't CC me today not knowing my targets but I feel tomorrow if not over and town lynched I get CC and lynched.

I can't think of reason why scum would fake-claim this here
given the game-state

Neither do I but if he's not we need a CC here from the real one.

@vedith - are you saying Persivul wouldn't rep out as scum of a game he's winning?

I suppose I could see Egix as scum. I think it's more likely that was a wagon on town. The one thing I am sure of is scum definitely voted for egix in day 1.

[Vedith]

@vedith - are you saying Persivul wouldn't rep out as scum of a game he's winning?

I don't think he would. I've seen him just coast a game with minimal posting in games that are stale before.
AtE is always NAI and Pers was obviously annoyed here, but there's no reason for scumPers to get annoyed at this particular thing.
I've never seen him tactically replace out either.

[BuJaber]

Who do you want to vote for the most?
Do you have an objection to TTTT wagon?

[Vedith]

Egix I think I want to vote.
Egix makes sense logically from pairings alone. And the lurking with the bad posting also suggests it.

I actually believe TTTT here so I don't think I'd vote there today.

Do you think Egix has a good chance as Scum here?

[rb]

the team is vedith + bujaber

[BuJaber]

Maybe rb is trying to hide being scummy by pretending to be stupid.

Vedith claimed FF. Either you CC him or stop calling him scum.

And people hace the nerve to blame me for scumreading 'townies'.
We have a gamethrower and a guy not even reading the game and somehow we shouldn't be scumreading them?

[BuJaber]

Do you think Egix has a good chance as Scum here?

Not particularly.

I'm taking your opinion regarding Persivul into account, so let's say he's town.

That still leaves 4T, rb, and lovebird who seem scummier than Egix.

[Vedith]

the team is vedith + bujaber

Are you CC me?

[Egix96]

Please don't do this, I know you're better than this.

VOTE: BuJ

Let's bag ourselves an arso.

This looks like aiming for town credit on T v T argument with Slaxx being main focus at this point.
Egix has really hid under the rstar all game too.

I won't deny that I've really been phoning it in this game. I've been finding it hard to get into it since it started tbqh.

I've seen that you've asked me for a reads list, so gimme a couple hours and I'll get back to you

[Vedith]

Okay that's fair. I don't be properly on until tomorrow anyway

[Egix96]

BuJ: Throws unwarranted shade at Persi early on. I think that him characterising Milk v Slaxx as scum theatre is very shady. As I believe I've mentioned before, "You are choosing to side with the wrong team" really bugs me. But to be fair 296 does give me some pause. Scum lean.

Love: Most of her content involves quoting stuff and asking questions or saying "that's towny/scummy". I can see some original thoughts in posts such as 516 though. Slight town lean.

Persi: I find it a bit strange that he questioned Slaxx for voting me only after he'd voted me himself. His play here feels a bit different from my previous games with him. Not really anything specific I could point to though. Also I think him changing his mind about Slaxx D2 was a bit fishy. Slight scum lean. (Btw I'm not reading anything into his replacement request)

rb: His play in the early game felt reminiscent of my first game with him, where he was scum ("more x votes please" comes to mind) but since then. I do quite like the look of his D2 twilight posts though. Slight town lean.

4Ts: Their whole ISO has a lot of filler posts which is NAGL. I notice that they've started writing more in their posts this Day phase, which is a little bit better, but I haven't forgotten about their opportunistic-looking votes. Very slight scum lean.

Vedith: (FTR this is disregarding the FF claim) I still think that him having a sudden turnaround with regard to rb and TMCK was very odd but apart from that I find it hard to take issue with his posting. So yeah, slight town lean.