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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:55 am
by rb
In post 572, skitter30 wrote:Rb what is your current read on kerser exactly
scum, obviously

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:55 am
by rb
there's awkward new and there's awkward new scum

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:55 am
by Kerset
In post 538, Wooper wrote:
In post 536, Luca Blight wrote:What other reads do you have, Wooper?
other than all my reads? zilch, why?
nomnomnom wrote:Why do I get scumvibes from Wooper?

I swear to god I wanted to townread the slot because I've played many games with ducky where I soulread him and wanted to see how it develops but I have this sinking feeling that ducky isn't town.
suspect it's absence of townvibes; I don't care about this game yet and may not until there's fewer people alive
I don't think that you will one of this 'fewer people', if you keep this anti-town behaviour. I thought you just had problems IRL.

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:56 am
by nomnomnom
In post 563, Something_Smart wrote:Noms you seem to have some experience with skitter. She's made some pretty weak points at this juncture. Is that normal; is it indicative of her alignment?
Depends on the context. My analysis of Skitter is that as town, the more time passes, the more paranoid she becomes with the whole game. She also has baseline paranoid thoughts about certain slots such as mine because of previous experiences, so a lot of it could be emotional.

If it's early on, against a player she's never faced or that her paranoia/annoyance doesn't rise with the more time passes, she's more likely to be scum. Otherwise I'd say it's town indicative of her as long as it's in a paranoid context.

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:56 am
by rb
more importantly skitter: who are your actual scumreads

because...you _aren't_ new and you know better than to spend a majority of your time playing the game on nitpicking at someone else's scumreads?

who do you actually scumread and why?

this is poor content, let's go

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:56 am
by skitter30
In post 533, rb wrote:what i wanna know is why something smart scumreads billy

and why we shouldn't lynch something smart
Why should we lynch something smart

Luca is town, i think

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:57 am
by Something_Smart
In post 576, rb wrote:there's awkward new and there's awkward new scum
What's the difference, in your opinion?

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:57 am
by rb
In post 581, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 576, rb wrote:there's awkward new and there's awkward new scum
What's the difference, in your opinion?
one is the thing you lynch

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:57 am
by skitter30
In post 579, rb wrote:who do you actually scumread and why?
You, but i'm not so sure of that anymore
Billy
Sirfetched
Aaron

You and aaron dont make sense together tho

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:58 am
by skitter30
In post 576, rb wrote:there's awkward new and there's awkward new scum
And what makes it the latter ...

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:58 am
by Something_Smart
In post 582, rb wrote:one is the thing you lynch
Don't sidestep the question :igmeou:

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:58 am
by rb
In post 580, skitter30 wrote:
In post 533, rb wrote:what i wanna know is why something smart scumreads billy

and why we shouldn't lynch something smart
Why should we lynch something smart

Luca is town, i think
nah, i'm done answering questions for you to restate the same questions at this point until you actually provide content of your own

complaining about other people having reads isn't a substitute for you actually having reads.

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:58 am
by nomnomnom
In post 581, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 576, rb wrote:there's awkward new and there's awkward new scum
What's the difference, in your opinion?
I know you haven't asked me but by experience my first time on this site was as scum and I can tell you that the interaction I had with people that suspected me very early on were awkward as hell so I think that being awkward should be looked into very carefully especially for a new player.

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:59 am
by Kerset
As fun fact I can say that wooper participated in my every game so far.

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:59 am
by skitter30
In post 586, rb wrote:
In post 580, skitter30 wrote:
In post 533, rb wrote:what i wanna know is why something smart scumreads billy

and why we shouldn't lynch something smart
Why should we lynch something smart

Luca is town, i think
nah, i'm done answering questions for you to restate the same questions at this point until you actually provide content of your own

complaining about other people having reads isn't a substitute for you actually having reads.
I think i've been providing content and have reads, ty

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:01 am
by Wooper
@Kerset I do have several irl problems rn. Relatively limited time/energy for Mafia so I'm budgeting it. not burning myself out on this game is actually net very protown.

Antitown = lynched is a pretty poor mindset trap to fall into btw; policy can be a pretty grey area and time's better spent finding ill motives than plynching people who are busy. you've seen me vomit up a phoney scumcase off pg. 1 of a thread pretty recently. :lol: I think you know sheer effort doesn't make me more likely to be town.

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:02 am
by rb
In post 585, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 582, rb wrote:one is the thing you lynch
Don't sidestep the question :igmeou:
i can generally tell when someone's just new or when they're new scum

i've played a bunch of newbie games and there are general tells for new!awkward town players - and kerset ticks none of the boxes.

at this point you have to also be aware that there's now 4 people who all think kerset is pretty scummy for similar reasons to me. by pure numbers, one of us is town. and unless you think that the scumteam is nomx3, wooper and myself, and that for some unbeknownst reason where none of us were under any pressure, we all decided to push really hard on kerset (again, if you are assuming that we are the scumteam) only to have them flip town?

for what?

so unless you're gonna go full idiot mode and assert that, maybe you should actually re-read kerset yourself and decide whether or not they're awkward new or if there's a decent chance they're scummy.

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:03 am
by nomnomnom
In post 591, rb wrote:at this point you have to also be aware that there's now 4 people who all think kerset is pretty scummy for similar reasons to me. by pure numbers, one of us is town. and unless you think that the scumteam is nomx3, wooper and myself, and that for some unbeknownst reason where none of us were under any pressure, we all decided to push really hard on kerset (again, if you are assuming that we are the scumteam) only to have them flip town?
Wooper thinks Kerset is town I believe? Why include him in the list?

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:04 am
by rb
i've seen awkward new town try to get town on the right track when they feel like the town isn't making headway. they might do a terrible job, but they try. kerset doesn't

awkward players still try to find scum, awkwardly, but they do try. kerset doesn't.

kerset doesn't...do anything town

there is awkward play with a believable "okay this person is not doing great, but they're trying to find scum"

and there's people just not doing anything

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:04 am
by rb
In post 592, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 591, rb wrote:at this point you have to also be aware that there's now 4 people who all think kerset is pretty scummy for similar reasons to me. by pure numbers, one of us is town. and unless you think that the scumteam is nomx3, wooper and myself, and that for some unbeknownst reason where none of us were under any pressure, we all decided to push really hard on kerset (again, if you are assuming that we are the scumteam) only to have them flip town?
Wooper thinks Kerset is town I believe? Why include him in the list?
oh does he?

bad wooper

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:04 am
by rb
can we get a VOTECOUNT

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:06 am
by rb
In post 570, skitter30 wrote:
In post 518, rb wrote:i think your play lacks direction, despite knowing that you're usually a capable and matter of fact player as town who states what they think and pushes in the direction they believe will hit scum.

it's possible that i'm overestimating your townplay, or that you just aren't really pinging heavily on a scumread yet and so aren't the town player i'm used to. nothing you've said really pings me as you being either alignment, which is why i said earlier "i hope Luca's scum because then this game would make a lot more sense"
- i think you're overestimating his towngame
- this seems in line with his towngame that i've seen before
- i'm not sure why you're characterizing his play as lacking direction, or what that even means in this context
which town games did you see before?

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:07 am
by Something_Smart
In post 591, rb wrote:i can generally tell when someone's just new or when they're new scum
What is your success rate at doing this?

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:07 am
by rb
oh no, if i question it i'm 'breaking a townread' and that's scummy

guess i just have to take your word for things and not be curious how you come to conclusions, because that would be scummy

sorry skitter, i have now changed my mind entirely. kerset must be town and i can't ask why you think that or what your previous experiences were :dead:

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:09 am
by Kerset
@nom3 When you shaded s_s, skitter and flubb you compared their gameplay to their previous games. When you scumread me you compared me to yourself and your general theories. Why didn't you compare me to my previous games like you did with others?