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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:40 pm
by GuiltyLion
In post 574, Titus wrote:Is the theory of GBJ and GL now? If so, then wouldn't lynching GL be the better play?
No, the theory is Map Wolf and PvtUrist. Or Map Wolf and GL if you somehow still think that I'm scum

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:41 pm
by GuiltyLion
In post 230, Titus wrote:Glided Sun and BS both have wagons to 3 again.

This suggest Map wolf and GS have the same alignment.
also lol if this turns out to be true and they're both scum I'll be impressed

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:04 pm
by GuiltyLion
In post 537, GuiltyLion wrote:Here's how this is going to go.

Unless Titus or Rise sees the light, you lynch me because Map Wolf is obviously going to vote me to save himself. (I guarantee PvtUrist stays on me here despite claiming to scumread both of us equally)

I flip town and either faustiv or Titus dies depending on the setup.

You lynch Map Wolf in LYLO.

The other of faustiv/Titus dies.

You lynch PvtUrist for the win.

Rise, if you vote GBJ at any point this game I am going to be salty with you postgame. Warning you now :]
Titus - assuming that I flip town, do you agree to this plan?

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:18 pm
by Map Wolf
In post 577, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 537, GuiltyLion wrote:Here's how this is going to go.

Unless Titus or Rise sees the light, you lynch me because Map Wolf is obviously going to vote me to save himself. (I guarantee PvtUrist stays on me here despite claiming to scumread both of us equally)

I flip town and either faustiv or Titus dies depending on the setup.

You lynch Map Wolf in LYLO.

The other of faustiv/Titus dies.

You lynch PvtUrist for the win.

Rise, if you vote GBJ at any point this game I am going to be salty with you postgame. Warning you now :]
Titus - assuming that I flip town, do you agree to this plan?
This is why I am not comfortable about hammering you. If you flip town we basically lose. Although I suppose if you are town, then chances are that pvt would be scum.

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:29 pm
by Map Wolf
Now this could be WIFOM, but the people voting GL would have every incentive to push for a lynch on me if they were scum; a lynch on me would force a Lylo between GL and Pvt tomorrow. On the other hand, GL flipping town would be bad for pvt, and GL flipping scum would be bad for scum in general.

I honestly feel like our best shot is to gamble GL is scum. Even if that would probably cost us the game if he flips town. Specifically, GL --> Pvt in that order would likely get us the highest chance of lynching scum. On the other hand, lynching me and having me flip town doesn't lead to an obvious D3 lynch. Seriously. If I flipped town, we'd be discussing Pvt v GL again.

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:30 pm
by GuiltyLion
Map Wolf what do you actually believe the odds are that I'm scum? You aren't projecting as confident as Rise/PvtUrist, why is that?

If you assume that I'm flipping town (which I am), who do you think is PvtUrist's partner?

bc I guarantee you that if you are somehow town PvtUrist is 100% confirmed scum

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:35 pm
by GayBabyJailor
In post 580, GuiltyLion wrote:Map Wolf what do you actually believe the odds are that I'm scum? You aren't projecting as confident as Rise/PvtUrist, why is that?

If you assume that I'm flipping town (which I am), who do you think is PvtUrist's partner?

bc I guarantee you that if you are somehow town PvtUrist is 100% confirmed scum
this tbh
if map wolf is town who tf is the scum partner

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:35 pm
by GuiltyLion
I'm fractionally paranoid of the Rise/PvtUrist team, I'm gonna try to see if I can find anything that rules them out. Rise/TGS didn't really interact at all

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:36 pm
by GuiltyLion
In post 513, Rise wrote:Hi Ptv (can I call you that?) glad you're here. Like seriously. Just finished catching up and reading your posts was a breath of fresh air cause it reflects a lot of what my gut's been telling me this whole game. I've been second guessing myself but not anymore. Don't care about anyone else, but you get my townread.
my heart says this is still pure but maaaan if Rise is scum we are screwed

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:48 pm
by Map Wolf
In post 580, GuiltyLion wrote:Map Wolf what do you actually believe the odds are that I'm scum? You aren't projecting as confident as Rise/PvtUrist, why is that?

If you assume that I'm flipping town (which I am), who do you think is PvtUrist's partner?

bc I guarantee you that if you are somehow town PvtUrist is 100% confirmed scum
Why do you think me flipping town would make Pvt scum?

As for your question, I think the most obvious scumpairing not involving you would be Pvt/Rise as you pointed out in your post prior to this one.

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:50 pm
by GuiltyLion
Because Titus and faustiv and GBJ sure aren't scum

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:53 pm
by GuiltyLion
In post 208, GuiltyLion wrote:key to this game is gonna be finding the townie in Map Wolf/Rise/TGS
This is still true lol and it looks like its gonna be up to GBJ and faustiv and Titus to do it

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:56 pm
by GuiltyLion
You also didn't answer my question about the actual odds that you think I'm scum. Like in a vacuum what do you think makes me shimmy and then how does that compare to Pvt/TGS

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:57 pm
by GuiltyLion
scummy*

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:52 pm
by Map Wolf
In post 585, GuiltyLion wrote:Because Titus and faustiv and GBJ sure aren't scum
Well people have suggested that you and GBJ are scumteam and that is a possibility.

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:15 pm
by Map Wolf
In post 587, GuiltyLion wrote:You also didn't answer my question about the actual odds that you think I'm scum. Like in a vacuum what do you think makes me shimmy and then how does that compare to Pvt/TGS
I'm not going to analyse you in a vacuum. That's not how this works.

I think you joining the BS wagon would make sense if you are scum. In addition, you then try to push Titus!Scum the day after, knowing that people are annoyed at the PR lynch. You then kind of stop the push the moment that someone points out who the next nk would be. You then vote me the moment that Faustiv suggests that we lynch me.

comes off really wrong tonally to me. "Let's just blame this player for not agreeing with me". is tonally negative to me as well. Also, his interactions will GBJ come off as suspicious.

Also, the suggested lynch onto me is plainly wrong. What information does me flipping town give? Is there then a universally agreed lynch on d3? A lynch we'd agree would be optimal beforehand? I don't think so. GL and Pvt have both suggested that I were the scumpartner of Pvt and GL respectively. On the other hand, GL flpping town would give us information and would make it pretty likely that Pvt is scum.

Honestly, I think GL/GBJ is very possible. The only reason that I am not just hammering is because if GL flipped town, then we'd be screwed.

But honestly, I think it's our best shot at winning.

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:16 pm
by Map Wolf
Intent

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:30 pm
by GayBabyJailor
i was going to hammer guiltylion when time was almost up but now works too i suppose

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:51 pm
by Map Wolf
Not doing it right now. I want to give people a chance to respond.

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:03 pm
by Titus
In post 577, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 537, GuiltyLion wrote:Here's how this is going to go.

Unless Titus or Rise sees the light, you lynch me because Map Wolf is obviously going to vote me to save himself. (I guarantee PvtUrist stays on me here despite claiming to scumread both of us equally)

I flip town and either faustiv or Titus dies depending on the setup.

You lynch Map Wolf in LYLO.

The other of faustiv/Titus dies.

You lynch PvtUrist for the win.

Rise, if you vote GBJ at any point this game I am going to be salty with you postgame. Warning you now :]
Titus - assuming that I flip town, do you agree to this plan?
I'm not opposed to it if you flip town. It would be lylo so I'd have to check my work but the vote discrepancy today suggests that's a good play.

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:04 pm
by Titus
In post 576, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 230, Titus wrote:Glided Sun and BS both have wagons to 3 again.

This suggest Map wolf and GS have the same alignment.
also lol if this turns out to be true and they're both scum I'll be impressed
Hmph

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:05 pm
by Titus
In post 560, Rise wrote:Sidenote: Guilty manipulation is real. He keeps insisting that I'm stupid to discredit me/insinuate "if you're not stupid, you'll agree with me."
That's NAI. Personality is confidence.

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:13 pm
by GuiltyLion
alright go ahead and hammer me scums, I feel at peace with this now

sorry I got a little heated this game. it's been a long time since I've felt like I had no real sway in determining lynches or having my voice heard and that was frustrating for me at times, but in the end I don't blame you all, good luck to town. I think Pvt is a sliiiiightly safer Lynch than Map Wolf tomorrow but I won't complain if Map is lynched either

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:01 pm
by Plotinus
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LynchingWith 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

GuiltyLion
(3): Titus, Rise, PvtUrist
Map Wolf
(2): faüstiv, GuiltyLion

Not Voting
(2): Map Wolf, GayBabyJailor

Deadline:
(expired on 2019-11-27 21:00:00).


Mod notes:
PvtUrist replaces TheGildedSun. Nancy Drew 39 is our backup mod.[/area]

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:54 pm
by faüstiv
In post 582, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm fractionally paranoid of the Rise/PvtUrist team, I'm gonna try to see if I can find anything that rules them out. Rise/TGS didn't really interact at all
did you find anything? what’s your read on Rise?

I find her tonally town but I’m going to reread them.