In post 123, Reasonably Rational wrote:Titus: I haven't played in like 2 years, of the people in this game who I don't know, whose opinions should I respect even if they don't actually give me a logical reason for their position?
I don't trust anyone. Not even my hypothetical masons.
Look at motivations, not logic. I expect Ali to fuck with pure logic because that's where my VCA comes from?
No no no, this isn't a trust question, you know me, I'm paranoid as fuck.
This is a "I do not know the players in this game, so I do not know who I should respect the "gut" feelings of." type of question.
Same question really goes out to Ank and FL tbh, but they're not the IC. :P
-Cerb
Interesting.
The players I would put in this category are Dunnstral, Frozen Angel, Krazy, and Spiffeh. Those three players specifically I've seen can have pretty solid gutreads. Players like Amrun, MariaR, and Pine are players that I don't quite fit this category in that they tend to flesh out their reads more and rely less on gut, but otherwise there is functionally no difference between the two categories. There might be overlap if my read on how they play aren't accurate, but this should be mostly accurate.
The rest of the players either have less of a body of work I'm aware of or have played with them in, are much less consistent, are players I can't get a solid playstyle read on, or have been unproven to have that capability to my knowledge thus far. I will not be categorizing the rest of the players within these groups.
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:27 am
by Titus
@Ank, Can you tell me what you think of Sherlock and Watson? Your gut read players seem to be leaning that way.
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:30 am
by Ankamius
I'm still combing through the thread atm, so I won't have a whole lot to go over atm
honestly though, I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in my reads
I'm not entirely here and I probably won't be until tomorrow
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:34 am
by Ankamius
I'd like to reiterate what I've seen in the thread so far a few times that I would rather the day not end quickly
I'd like the opportunity to work with Titus this game and it's a lot more likely to happen if I have enough time and room to do what I need to do to make that happen
There's a bunch of ascetics. Multiple soft claims. TSE is either mafia being coaching in to being the absolute worst shitposter ever, or is town and the worst shitposter ever. So that's the lynch rn.
The will to continue leads me to lean scum when he has stated he's not going to be an idiot any more in completed games.
There's a bunch of ascetics. Multiple soft claims. TSE is either mafia being coaching in to being the absolute worst shitposter ever, or is town and the worst shitposter ever. So that's the lynch rn.
The will to continue leads me to lean scum when he has stated he's not going to be an idiot any more in completed games.
There's a bunch of ascetics. Multiple soft claims. TSE is either mafia being coaching in to being the absolute worst shitposter ever, or is town and the worst shitposter ever. So that's the lynch rn.
The will to continue leads me to lean scum when he has stated he's not going to be an idiot any more in completed games.
Question is.
Are you Town pushing me or mafia.
try asking the wheel :^)
Well.
Looks like there scum pushing me.
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:04 am
by Professor Moriarty
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:09 am
by Spiffeh
I would like more votes on Sherlock and Watson
Idk how many there are currently but I still want more
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:11 am
by Spiffeh
In post 578, Titus wrote:@Ank, Can you tell me what you think of Sherlock and Watson? Your gut read players seem to be leaning that way.
As you can see our lord and savior Titus is also leaning this way if you read between the lines, in case that incentivizes any of you!
In post 438, AaronFrost wrote:Anything important happen in these last 18 pages, because that'll effect how closely I read it.
We have 3+ ascetics. So, at least skim.
Claim whether you're ascetic as well please.
K so going back to this, I trust Pine's claim which, if true, likely means one of the other two ascetic claims is scum.
Uh, he's not claiming ascetic though, and this is worded like you believe he is claiming ascetic - he's claiming ascetic enabler. If you're not paying close attention to his claim, how can you say you believe it?
I know what he claimed. My wording was off, as it usually is, but basically my thought was that if he's a town ascetic enabler, then one of Amrun/RR (the ascetic claims) is likely scum.
In post 586, Spiffeh wrote:I would like more votes on Sherlock and Watson
Idk how many there are currently but I still want more
Sure, I don't like their lack of content and mason fishing.
VOTE: Sherlock and Watson
Where were they mason fishing? I skimmed a lot and probably missed some posts.
Most people haven't had a lot of useful content to be fair.
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:36 am
by Reasonably Rational
AF's argument has poor reasoning.
@Spiffeh and @Titus - Care to weigh in on why his reasoning is flawed?
The short version of what's going on here is this: We're town (and irritated Titus didn't draft us, but that's a convo for another day; her irrational confidence that she can make it work "eventually" is gonna lead to some bullshit around about day 3 if we're alive then). The way Amrun came in and reacted to someone else (Espeonage is what my brain is saying but I have to go back and check to be sure) softing a counterclaim to us makes me pretty sure that's town. Scum would have no reason to CC us in that way. More likely scum would claim after the question of what NU was got answered by Cerb and use us for cover. Setting up a conflict with us early in that way just spews town.
Then Pine comes along and claims Ascetic Enabler, and that's key. See ... we have a super powerful role with Ascetic being attached Neg Utility to raise just the dilemma we are in. It's pretty long established (at least for Cerb and I) that you claim your NU up front. The counterclaims and then claim of an Enabler implies that the ascetic is in place for some additional reason other than just to tip the balance a bit with the Neg Utility.
So knowing that we have a very powerful role and also seeing Espeonage claim to have a powerful role and having Pine ALSO imply a very powerful role, and having at least weak reasons to believe they're town, the conclusion I'm arriving at is that there are more Ascetics out there who decided not to claim it. IF there's symmetry and scum have (an) ascetic(s), I expect they are unclaimed ones at this point.
Hopefully we can get Spiffeh to give us more than a couple sentences because I'm super interested in what the thinks of it and specifically if my reasoning makes sense.
