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Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:29 pm**

Official Vote Count 1.14With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching

EqsyLootz

(3): Atarashi Hajimari, WizenedWalrus, Iconeum

Iconeum

(1): Doobietime

clidd

(1): Elmo TeH AzN

Not Voting

(4): clidd, Menalque, EqsyLootz, 72offsuit

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-15 01:30:00).

Mod notes:

Iconeum standing V/LA weekends.
WizenedWalrus standing V/LA weekends.
Elmo TeH AzN V/LA until Tuesday/Wednesday.
Menalque V/LA until Sunday.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:59 pm**

In post 573, Iconeum wrote:
In post 556, 72offsuit wrote:So i think your Lootz read is off. I think we should lynch Lootz.
possibly yes

What made you change from 530?

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:56 pm**

nobody is interested in my doobie case

and i did agree with the last or so post 72off made, which makes me vote lootz (ok lynch, if this is scum then i will no longer wrongly scumread 72off, if that flips town then 72off can be the next lynch)

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:26 pm**

Prodding EqsyLootz. This is their first prod.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:46 pm**

In post 577, Iconeum wrote:nobody is interested in my doobie case

and i did agree with the last or so post 72off made, which makes me vote lootz (ok lynch, if this is scum then i will no longer wrongly scumread 72off, if that flips town then 72off can be the next lynch)

I don't really understand this. You say you agree with my read on esqy, but if esqy flips town then you want me lynched tomorrow, despite others making cases against esqy.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:50 pm**

In post 577, Iconeum wrote:nobody is interested in my doobie case

and i did agree with the last or so post 72off made, which makes me vote lootz (ok lynch, if this is scum then i will no longer wrongly scumread 72off, if that flips town then 72off can be the next lynch)

It's not that I'm not interested, its that I dont see them being particularly scummy, unlike Lootz.
Most of my games to date at least 1 scum has been in the null-reads-area.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:52 pm**

i don't see any reason to tunnel on anyone, including you at this point

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:53 pm**

In post 531, Iconeum wrote:scumpile/lynchpile in no particular order doobie/72off/lotus slot

and it's not that i never wanted to push/lynch the lotus slot

my vote is more usefull there right now

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:53 pm**

VOTE: Esqy

L-1

Do NOT hammer Esqy until Esqy has reported in. Otherwise you are claiming scum.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:54 pm**

In post 582, Iconeum wrote:
In post 531, Iconeum wrote:scumpile/lynchpile in no particular order doobie/72off/lotus slot
and it's not that i never wanted to push/lynch the lotus slot

my vote is more usefull there right now

Right.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:55 pm**

In post 577, Iconeum wrote:nobody is interested in my doobie case

I mean I'm definitely interested, just not today.

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:55 pm**

Updated VC:

EqsyLootz (4): Atarashi Hajimari, WizenedWalrus, Iconeum, 72offsuit
Iconeum (1): Doobietime
clidd (1): Elmo TeH AzN

Not Voting (4): clidd, Menalque, EqsyLootz,

Posted: **Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:56 pm**

EBWOP Updated VC:

EqsyLootz (4): Atarashi Hajimari, WizenedWalrus, Iconeum, 72offsuit
Iconeum (1): Doobietime
clidd (1): Elmo TeH AzN

Not Voting (3): clidd, Menalque, EqsyLootz

Posted: **Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:59 am**

and like

that wagon on eqsy is at least 3 out of 4 town

all of atarashi walrus and me are town or prob town, with 72off more doubtfull to me

which isn't bad at all

Posted: **Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:24 am**

The lack of a counter-wagon is odd. I guess with esqy not voting it reduces the ability of a counter-wagon. I really hope this is a town-block game. If clidd/ata are scum then we were screwed anyway with the whacky start to this game

Posted: **Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:35 am**

In post 588, Iconeum wrote:and like

that wagon on eqsy is at least 3 out of 4 town

all of atarashi walrus and me are town or prob town, with 72off more doubtfull to me

which isn't bad at all

I'm still not sure on the whole "walrus is town" line of reasoning given taht I'm not really sure that it exists.

Granted he's really only in my lynch pool because of general lack of substance and lacking a clear reason to see that he's town, but I'm really not sure where you're getting your confidence for this read from.

Posted: **Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:38 am**

In post 589, 72offsuit wrote:The lack of a counter-wagon is odd. I guess with esqy not voting it reduces the ability of a counter-wagon. I really hope this is a town-block game. If clidd/ata are scum then we were screwed anyway with the whacky start to this game

the wagon was at 2? votes prior to a couple *hours* ago

i and 72 only just made it an actual wagon so the lack of a counterwagon or response to it might just be timing tho

Posted: **Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:43 am**

In post 590, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:
In post 588, Iconeum wrote:and like

that wagon on eqsy is at least 3 out of 4 town

all of atarashi walrus and me are town or prob town, with 72off more doubtfull to me

which isn't bad at all
I'm still not sure on the whole "walrus is town" line of reasoning given taht I'm not really sure that it exists.

Granted he's really only in my lynch pool because of general lack of substance and lacking a clear reason to see that he's town, but I'm really not sure where you're getting your confidence for this read from.

well i disagree with you on walrus read

305 was a pretty good opening vote, sheeping other reads that it agreed with. This is a newbie game after all and it's not easy 'finding your feet'. I liked it.

His 319 is a mindmelt with my thoughts at the moment, so i townread that

382 was a solid response that i townread off of tone and content, trying to sort 72off

while i'm not exactly convinced by the readlist he provided, i'm overall townreading the slot

Posted: **Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:07 am**

Spoiler:

In post 555, 72offsuit wrote:Wow, this game is literally 1987 on repeat.

In post 556, 72offsuit wrote: 1. What scum motivation would i have for "townleaning" you itstead of "townreading" you
Actually stop and check yourself for a second, and actually ask yourself the question.
Do you think that! ScumMe is planning to shade you and then lynch you Tomorrow or what?
Correct, i dont have any strong reads either way because im town.

2. Re: Doobie im still unsure either way.

3. Lootz' post 409 is not townmotivated.

Yes 1 scum for 1 PR is an excellent trade. NOOONE is disputing this obvious fact.

Like we have already discussed ad nauseum, scum claiming mason is very unlikely. Asking for any existing PRs to CC if they exist is just a ridiculous statement imo.
The odds of a PR existing is like 2 percent.

Post 409 is the sort of post that is trying to appear town. Its LAMISTY which is one reason why its scummy.
Secondly its dealing with the unlikely rather than the probable.

Its basically the epitome of the wiki when you look up:

Balancing Possibilities Versus Probabilities

So i think your Lootz read is off.

I think we should lynch Lootz.

In post 558, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 364, Menalque wrote:nah, go sleep, you're good for now, I need to sort other people

In post 541, Menalque wrote:72 is a good lynch, but idk about the partner

I was thinking Elmo earlier but they kind of seemed town in some of their stuff?

and their push on walrus makes me think it's not walrus, also I don't particularly read walrus as anything yet
This bothers me. Prior to the afk you basically grill me with questions. Then you conclude with, " im going to sort other slots out" ... Which you dont really do and then you return and basically just say "ye 72 is a good lynch".

In post 559, 72offsuit wrote:VOTE: Esqy

In post 562, 72offsuit wrote:UNVOTE: Unvote

FoS: esqy

In post 566, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 564, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:Current lynch priority is Eqsy -> 72off/doobie, Walrus
You earlier say that probs both scum are in these 4.
So who are the scum partners in these 4?

In post 579, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 577, Iconeum wrote:nobody is interested in my doobie case

and i did agree with the last or so post 72off made, which makes me vote lootz (ok lynch, if this is scum then i will no longer wrongly scumread 72off, if that flips town then 72off can be the next lynch)
I don't really understand this. You say you agree with my read on esqy, but if esqy flips town then you want me lynched tomorrow, despite others making cases against esqy.

In post 580, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 577, Iconeum wrote:nobody is interested in my doobie case

and i did agree with the last or so post 72off made, which makes me vote lootz (ok lynch, if this is scum then i will no longer wrongly scumread 72off, if that flips town then 72off can be the next lynch)
It's not that I'm not interested, its that I dont see them being particularly scummy, unlike Lootz.
Most of my games to date at least 1 scum has been in the null-reads-area.

In post 583, 72offsuit wrote:VOTE: Esqy

L-1

Do NOT hammer Esqy until Esqy has reported in. Otherwise you are claiming scum.

Posted: **Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:10 am**

Posted: **Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:11 am**

In all fairness if they do not pick the prod up I will hammer them just so a replacement doesn't come into the slot to die.

Posted: **Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:12 am**

This sequence seems to me a strong indicator of town mentality.

Posted: **Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:12 am**

ok if that's your stance

UNVOTE:

Posted: **Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:14 am**

In post 596, clidd wrote:This sequence seems to me a strong indicator of town mentality.

i was liking his recent posts from 72off

how do you feel about about a current townblock consisting of clidd/ico/walrus/atari/72?

this is a strong basis

Posted: **Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:14 am**

oh and menal probably too

damn i have a lot of townreads

if this game is solved in doobie/lootz/Elmo this is pretty neat

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