Wavelength |||game over|||

[Xtoxm]

in the absence of certainty that this is part of NKs general knowledge im more inclined to think that this obscure piece of info isnt, or at least be uncertain enough that he'd still want to do a google to check

[lilith2013]

get reeeeeady for... the WAVELENGTH SPECTRUM!

Card:

Quiet

Loud

Clue: talking

Spoiler: drum roll please...

Team Debt Star’s guess of

43

scores 3 points!

Team Velvet Thunder's guess of

left

scores 1 point!

Current standings (round 4)

Team Debt Star:

11 points
shiki
enomis
Kanna
Not Known 15 (current representative)
Isis (next Psychic)
Hectic
Menalque

Team Velvet Thunder:

6 points
NotaJumbleofNumbers
Xtoxm
vincentw (current representative)
northsidegal (current Psychic)
Tatsuya Kaname
Knightmare491
Auro

Not Known 15

is now Team Debt Star's representative. New card and spectrum being sent to

northsidegal

shortly.

[Auro]

Woa! So did you scale the decibel scale to 1-100 or something or just gave a gut-number, NK?

[lilith2013]

Card and spectrum has been sent to

northsidegal

.

[Knightmare491]

Range was 34-38? or 33-37?

[lilith2013]

The range is 33-38. I would count both 33 and 38 as 4-point guesses

[lilith2013]

It's now Team Velvet Thunder’s turn! Here's your card:

Hard

Soft

And the clue that your Psychic, northsidegal, provided is:

Martensite

.

Your team has (expired on 2020-06-13 20:41:52) to guess where the target is. It’s now up to you to discuss and determine where

Martensite

is on the spectrum from 0 to 100. 0 represents “Hard” and 100 represents “Soft."

vincentw

is your team’s current representative. Remember to provide your final answer in this format:

Guess: X

where X is between 0 and 100.

[shiki]

the math meta is a menace to society

[Tatsuya Kaname]

What the Frank Sinatra is a Martensite?

[Auro]

Google isn't particularly helpful, Martensite has an associated 700 cap Brinell hardness (and that scale goes up to 4600). I thought Diamonds could be a reference point but they don't even have a Brinell value, their hardness is defined in "Mohs" as 10.0

If we're going by {top Martensite Brinell}/{top Brinell in wiki} we'd have 700/4600=15.21 (and 100 minus that) but eh, that feels too low and idk what denominator reference point to take

[Knightmare491]

Google isn't particularly helpful, Martensite has an associated 700 cap Brinell hardness (and that scale goes up to 4600). I thought Diamonds could be a reference point but they don't even have a Brinell value, their hardness is defined in "Mohs" as 10.0

If we're going by {top Martensite Brinell}/{top Brinell in wiki} we'd have 700/4600=15.21 (and 100 minus that) but eh, that feels too low and idk what denominator reference point to take

You're massively overthinking this.

It says that martensite is the hardest of steels. I think the number is sub 20. I'll have to check how hard it is in comparison to other stuff and we should be able to narrow down the number further.

[Knightmare491]

This scale keeps popping up.

Spoiler:

I think 20-25 is a good guess for this. Martensite is very hard but in comparison to stuff like this it's not that hard.

[Auro]

You're massively overthinking this.

Eh, probably. I'm wondering if there's a reason NSG didn't go with a value from here since that scale's limits are pretty defined. I felt that "Martensite" was specific enough that there's an exact number somehow? Dunno.

[Knightmare491]

Maybe she did not come across that scale.

[Xtoxm]

ok, never heard of martensite
wiki says 700 brinell
brinell scale on wiki goes to 4600
700/4600=15.21
this is probably what we're meant to do, it looks like something specifically obscure was chosen for us to research
VOTE: 15

[Auro]

You will have to do 100-15 since 0 is hard and 100 is soft.

[Xtoxm]

oh
VOTE: 85

[Knightmare491]

oh
VOTE: 85

You did it correctly the first time. 100 denotes soft. This alloy isn't

soft

.

[Knightmare491]

You will have to do 100-15 since 0 is hard and 100 is soft.

There's something wrong with you too :p

0 denotes maximum hardness and 100 denotes maximum softness. I don't understand why you guys are getting confused.............

[Auro]

Maximum hard = 4600 on the scale
Martensite hard = 700 on the scale

Relative Martensite hardness with 100 being hardest = 15
Relative Martensite hardness with 0 being hardest = 85

Yes it isn't *soft*, but it's much softer than the relatively hardest substance on a wiki scale which lists a numeric value of this alloy, so we get 85. So it's not a matter of confusion, just that the outlier 4600 value in the scale makes everything soft in comparison, and it's reasonable to assume NSG was going for a specific number in this manner.

[Knightmare491]

Nope, if it was 85 soft NSG would not have gone through so much trouble she would have just given us an easy clue like cotton or something.

anything above 50 is just out of the question for me.

[Tatsuya Kaname]

Yeah but the scale is supposed to measure something *hard*.

How would something very soft like a pillow fall in that scale then?

I'd blind guess something like 20.

[Tatsuya Kaname]

Actually a bit higher like 35.

[Tatsuya Kaname]

What if they're trying to scale that from the halfway point?

So if from 0-100 your guess falls in 85, we scale that to 0-50 instead and get like 43?

[Tatsuya Kaname]

That sounds relatively not so hard to me though. I'd prefer more left than 43