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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:35 am
by Xtoxm
in the absence of certainty that this is part of NKs general knowledge im more inclined to think that this obscure piece of info isnt, or at least be uncertain enough that he'd still want to do a google to check
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:42 am
by lilith2013
get reeeeeady for... the WAVELENGTH SPECTRUM!
Card:
Clue: talking
Team Debt Star’s guess of
43
scores 3 points!
Team Velvet Thunder's guess of
left
scores 1 point!
Current standings (round 4)
Team Debt Star:
11 points
shiki
enomis
Kanna
Not Known 15 (current representative)
Isis (next Psychic)
Hectic
Menalque
Team Velvet Thunder:
6 points
NotaJumbleofNumbers
Xtoxm
vincentw (current representative)
northsidegal (current Psychic)
Tatsuya Kaname
Knightmare491
Auro
Not Known 15
is now Team Debt Star's representative. New card and spectrum being sent to
northsidegal
shortly.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:54 am
by Auro
Woa! So did you scale the decibel scale to 1-100 or something or just gave a gut-number, NK?
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:01 am
by lilith2013
Card and spectrum has been sent to
northsidegal
.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:34 am
by Knightmare491
Range was 34-38? or 33-37?
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:42 am
by lilith2013
The range is 33-38. I would count both 33 and 38 as 4-point guesses
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:41 pm
by lilith2013
It's now Team Velvet Thunder’s turn! Here's your card:
And the clue that your Psychic, northsidegal, provided is:
Martensite
.
Your team has
(expired on 2020-06-13 20:41:52) to guess where the target is. It’s now up to you to discuss and determine where
Martensite
is on the spectrum from 0 to 100. 0 represents “Hard” and 100 represents “Soft."
vincentw
is your team’s current representative. Remember to provide your final answer in this format:
Guess: X
where X is between 0 and 100.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:55 pm
by shiki
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:44 pm
by Tatsuya Kaname
What the Frank Sinatra is a Martensite?
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:52 pm
by Auro
Google isn't particularly helpful, Martensite has an associated 700 cap Brinell hardness (and that scale goes up to 4600). I thought Diamonds could be a reference point but they don't even have a Brinell value, their hardness is defined in "Mohs" as 10.0
If we're going by {top Martensite Brinell}/{top Brinell in wiki} we'd have 700/4600=15.21 (and 100 minus that) but eh, that feels too low and idk what denominator reference point to take
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:12 pm
by Knightmare491
In post 584, Auro wrote:Google isn't particularly helpful, Martensite has an associated 700 cap Brinell hardness (and that scale goes up to 4600). I thought Diamonds could be a reference point but they don't even have a Brinell value, their hardness is defined in "Mohs" as 10.0
If we're going by {top Martensite Brinell}/{top Brinell in wiki} we'd have 700/4600=15.21 (and 100 minus that) but eh, that feels too low and idk what denominator reference point to take
You're massively overthinking this.
It says that martensite is the hardest of steels. I think the number is sub 20. I'll have to check how hard it is in comparison to other stuff and we should be able to narrow down the number further.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:48 pm
by Knightmare491
This scale keeps popping up.
I think 20-25 is a good guess for this. Martensite is very hard but in comparison to stuff like
this it's not that hard.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:05 pm
by Auro
Eh, probably. I'm wondering if there's a reason NSG didn't go with a value from
here since that scale's limits are pretty defined. I felt that "Martensite" was specific enough that there's an exact number somehow? Dunno.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:33 pm
by Knightmare491
Maybe she did not come across that scale.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:32 pm
by Xtoxm
ok, never heard of martensite
wiki says 700 brinell
brinell scale on wiki goes to 4600
700/4600=15.21
this is probably what we're meant to do, it looks like something specifically obscure was chosen for us to research
VOTE: 15
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:38 pm
by Auro
You will have to do 100-15 since 0 is hard and 100 is soft.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:54 pm
by Xtoxm
oh
VOTE: 85
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:27 pm
by Knightmare491
You did it correctly the first time. 100 denotes soft. This alloy isn't
soft
.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:29 pm
by Knightmare491
In post 590, Auro wrote:You will have to do 100-15 since 0 is hard and 100 is soft.
There's something wrong with you too :p
0 denotes maximum hardness and 100 denotes maximum softness. I don't understand why you guys are getting confused.............
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:50 pm
by Auro
Maximum hard = 4600 on the scale
Martensite hard = 700 on the scale
Relative Martensite hardness with 100 being hardest = 15
Relative Martensite hardness with 0 being hardest = 85
Yes it isn't *soft*, but it's much softer than the relatively hardest substance on a wiki scale which lists a numeric value of this alloy, so we get 85.
So it's not a matter of confusion, just that the outlier 4600 value in the scale makes everything soft in comparison, and it's reasonable to assume NSG was going for a specific number in this manner.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:52 pm
by Knightmare491
Nope, if it was 85 soft NSG would not have gone through so much trouble she would have just given us an easy clue like cotton or something.
anything above 50 is just out of the question for me.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:15 am
by Tatsuya Kaname
Yeah but the scale is supposed to measure something *hard*.
How would something very soft like a pillow fall in that scale then?
I'd blind guess something like 20.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:15 am
by Tatsuya Kaname
Actually a bit higher like 35.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:20 am
by Tatsuya Kaname
What if they're trying to scale that from the halfway point?
So if from 0-100 your guess falls in 85, we scale that to 0-50 instead and get like 43?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:28 am
by Tatsuya Kaname
That sounds relatively not so hard to me though. I'd prefer more left than 43
