Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 4:36 am
In post 547, feathers wrote:Hold on Fish I literally didn't notice votato's string until you pointed it out heh. Would've been completely bamboozled by this charmer.VOTE:ATO
after i posted that comment, i was reading through the feed again and i noticed that. so i agree, your posts are different. honestly you could probably insert 'unsure about my reads' in the part you sentence for the word scum to read: i dind't want to draw your attention because im unsure about my reads...i know that makes for a poor playmate but it is what it is. brass even said he forgot i was playing. lol. but i digress.In post 553, Formerfish wrote:This sounds suspiciously like "I didn't want to draw your attention because I'm scum and don't want you to have a reason to focus on me, please oh please just go away."In post 552, Freddiethelady wrote:i subconsciously decided i would trying to avoid saying something that might get that reaction out of you because the noise is useless
Such a shitty reason to punt the responsibility of reading someone as well. I think my posting shows that if you come at me on the level and I feel like intentions are pure that I am more than capable of having a rational discussion about the game and the players in it. I know it's a little hard to swallow, but I think that if you compare my recent posting to my early posting you'll see a difference in them.
I've already rustled people's jimmies, now I'm playing my game, you wanna play with me?
i can see why you would say that if you were scum. you, lilith, and ironcat are the main sources of friction during this game (oh and kat) and most people have their suspicions about the lot of you. i just unvoted because i wasn't sure, and didn't cast my vote elsewhere. where as you did the opposite. you also bailed on the wagon and said 'she bailed which is scummy' but is entirely scummy of you. if you really thought that ironcat was scum you would say 'shit, now i have to convince freddie et al again' or 'why would you do that, we were so close!!" or something to that nature. whereas if you're scum, you would say, 'freddie is an easy target now' which is exactly what you did. i told you why i voted him in the first place, why i unvoted him. i wasn't comfortable participating in that wagon because there had been character developments. the abandonment of your suspicions towards ironcat on a whim appears extremely opportunistic to me.In post 584, Formerfish wrote:Freddie came out hot and heavy, then went away and is cold now. He was voting and pushing ironcat, and then he unvoted and is pushing no one.
I think that there is a good chance that Freds scum who is comfortable with letting us rip into each other, because we kinda are.
Also the idea that he didnt want to comment on anything i said because he feared my wrath, even after i had dropped the mask and started playing my day 2 mode on day 1. It shows a lack of wanting to sort or any attempt to even appear to be sorting people.
The only wagon we had really is on Ironcat, and with Freddie moving his vote while not moving it to a constructive place leaves it shelved and gathering dust. Instead of letting Ironcat stew and potentially slip up and do something AI Freddie removes the pressure and does nothing with it instead.
Scum lean on Fish. Still prefer a Kat lynchIn post 589, votato wrote:hmm. this isnt good. where are the people? what do they think about formerfish and lilith?
In post 295, votato wrote:VOTE: copykat. i agree with brass. its mostly gut, but copykat seems pretty opportunistic hopping on the major wagon, putting it to L-1 without saying anything. I also see nothing in copykats case about scumslippng. Not a strong case against copykat, ill concede, but worth pressuring. I still dont like ironcat, but that might just be due to language barrier.
In post 515, votato wrote:the reason i voted you is not because you pressured gibus or unvoted. its because you didnt state reasoning for your vote which made it seem very opportunistic. and then i didnt like your ex post reasoning for the vote. you liking gibus' answer seems like you're just backtracking after getting called out. from the beginning it was clearly not a scumslip.In post 295, votato wrote:VOTE: copykat. i agree with brass. its mostly gut, but copykat seems pretty opportunistic hopping on the major wagon, putting it to L-1 without saying anything. I also see nothing in copykats case about scumslippng. Not a strong case against copykat, ill concede, but worth pressuring. I still dont like ironcat, but that might just be due to language barrier.
maybe you honestly just saw something that wasnt there, which is why im saying just go on playing and maybe youll do something to convince me you arent scum. your narrative around your voting patterns seems less likely to me than the alternative that i present. you havent addressed my thinking at all. your narrative is parallel and mutually exclusive, but you havent explained why i should reject my narrative and accept yours.
In post 569, votato wrote:wishy. washy. why would you vote someone you townread? and now youre saying that your vote was pure OMGUS? you arent exactly making a great case for yourself here.In post 568, CopyKat wrote:I had a town read on you.In post 567, votato wrote:so you had a townread on me when you were voting me but now you're not sure so you unvoted me?
There were a series of posts where I explained my vote on gibus and I didn't think you were making a good faith attempt to understand my side of things. I thought you could be scum.
After I calmed down I realized that my "scum" read on you was likely an emotional response so I unvoted.
Looking back at your ISO I still see some townie things but I have lingering doubts now
poe is part of it. Theres near zero content here, so its a bit hard to judge. Copykat is independently scummy. Lilith and fish are scummy together. Fish is doing some gambit allegedly, so probably shouldnt lynch there todayIn post 597, gibus wrote:Why Lilith? PoE?