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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:36 pm
by votato
In post 574, DkKoba wrote:What is the way I play as VT?

what should my reads be?

oh sorry I wanted to question the current "towncore" because I'm not going to let a coalition hammer without discussion, and I most definitely feel I up the chances of a town win with myself on it.

You INSIST you know how to read me but continue to fail at it.

Can you just acknowledge that I can read a board state and act differently based on what is going on?
What things are pinging you that I'm not doing? I don't always run gambits unless there's a mechanical reason to.

And give me an explaination for every player you have Healed right now in your coalition.
all the explanations are there in my ISO. if you have specific questions you can ask. ive seen you repeatedly talk a big game, but ive yet to see you solve any games (you always pop up in the dead thread or postgame and say "i would have solved that!!") the exception is cult where the solve was pretty easy and you were in a hydra.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:37 pm
by DkKoba
a swing and a misis

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:40 pm
by DkKoba
your ISO does not have any explanations for who you have healed so far.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:45 pm
by DkKoba
In post 313, votato wrote:HEAL: votato
HEAL: pooky
HEAL: DC
HEAL: deimos
HEAL: sleeper
HEAL: datisi

thats my order rn. datisi prolly needs the heal most
also again, what is "different" about me this game that pinged you? please quantify it into words.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:46 pm
by DkKoba
oops i left that in my quotes while looking for your "explanations"

but theres a link for yall so you can all read and see that there is nothing.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:55 pm
by DkKoba
In post 233, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 192, Tuxedo Mask wrote:They are also being way less confrontational.
are you high or something?

I'm less confrontational because we're in the look for good guys phase, not the look for bad guys phase.
In post 237, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 233, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 192, Tuxedo Mask wrote:They are also being way less confrontational.
are you high or something?

I'm less confrontational because we're in the look for good guys phase, not the look for bad guys phase.
You can still make a town block by aggressively scum hunting. You just use POE.
In post 241, Deimos27 wrote:
In post 235, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Like I'm not even looking for scum right now, so it makes no sense to run aggressive attacks on people since we're doing coalition building not scum lynching
This is a very good response and I feel like an idiot for not making the connection on my own.
In post 242, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 237, Tuxedo Mask wrote:You can still make a town block by aggressively scum hunting. You just use POE.
that's such an ass-backwards way of building a good town block.


Attacking people to try to make them slip doesn't really work when you're not in the lynching phase of the game. if anything it's a distraction.
In post 243, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 241, Deimos27 wrote:
In post 235, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Like I'm not even looking for scum right now, so it makes no sense to run aggressive attacks on people since we're doing coalition building not scum lynching
This is a very good response and I feel like an idiot for not making the connection on my own.
I really don't see it as a reason to play differently, care to explain? It also doesn't wave away the reduced post count. Something Bear said they do as scum
In post 244, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 242, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 237, Tuxedo Mask wrote:You can still make a town block by aggressively scum hunting. You just use POE.
that's such an ass-backwards way of building a good town block.


Attacking people to try to make them slip doesn't really work when you're not in the lynching phase of the game. if anything it's a distraction.
I consider your playstyle a distraction regardless. If you think someone is scummy and can convince others, that seems like a good way to keep scum out of the coalition.
I think this interaction is important.

It's the primary reason why I read Tux as town and why I had my early scumread on Pooky(the comment about going further into their ISO)

I don't find their analysis logical or consistent.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:43 pm
by DkKoba
In post 577, DkKoba wrote:your ISO does not have any explanations for who you have healed so far.
votato I see you active elsewhere on site in a non game topic, why won't you come explain?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:44 pm
by votato
In post 581, DkKoba wrote:
In post 577, DkKoba wrote:your ISO does not have any explanations for who you have healed so far.
votato I see you active elsewhere on site in a non game topic, why won't you come explain?
cuz it isnt productive.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:44 pm
by votato
In post 581, DkKoba wrote:
In post 577, DkKoba wrote:your ISO does not have any explanations for who you have healed so far.
votato I see you active elsewhere on site in a non game topic, why won't you come explain?
im not gonna let you derail the game.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:46 pm
by DkKoba
Weak ass excuse.

Your coalition is full of shit then because you don't have an explanation for any of your reads then.

How am I derailing the game by questioning you about your reads that you have not explained yet and then proceeded to LIE about explaining them.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:49 pm
by DkKoba
You got caught lying, are getting pressured to explain stuff, and your reaction is to just cry about it and double down on being anti town.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:56 pm
by votato
lol. if anyone else has doubts, ill happily explain.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:59 pm
by DkKoba
Do you think you are playing to your wincon right now acting like this?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:04 pm
by DkKoba
I am 100% confident you are just grudging me at this point as town to spite me because this is your terrible town game I am seeing. And you better bet that other people at this table shouldn't be letting your recent interaction with me slide.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:04 pm
by votato
In post 587, DkKoba wrote:Do you think you are playing to your wincon right now acting like this?
obviously or i wouldnt do it. not cooperating with the person derailing town is clearly playing to town wincon.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:04 pm
by votato
In post 588, DkKoba wrote:I am 100% confident you are just grudging me at this point as town to spite me because this is your terrible town game I am seeing. And you better bet that other people at this table shouldn't be letting your recent interaction with me slide.
are you fucking kidding? multiple people have called you out for your gameplay since you repped in. how are you so unaware?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:06 pm
by DkKoba
How am I derailing town bud. What did I derail it ~from~ if you want to go back to the topic you think is ~more important~

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:07 pm
by DkKoba
The only other person who really feels the same way abt me rn is Pooky and their slot also looks bad rn in terms of how they are reading the game. So don't even give me that.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:13 pm
by votato
In post 592, DkKoba wrote:The only other person who really feels the same way abt me rn is Pooky and their slot also looks bad rn in terms of how they are reading the game. So don't even give me that.
what is a doncorleone, even?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:15 pm
by votato
so what youre saying is that in this micro where there are only two scum, at least three people from the towncore are scumreading you. so that means that a) 100% chance at least some townies are telling you to sit down b) you are messing with the flow of the game and are making it harder for town.

please stay away from games where you see me on the playerlist.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:17 pm
by DkKoba
In post 563, DonCorleone wrote:Okay, I may have misjudged you, sorry

I’ve had negative experiences with players who have played similar to you in past games of yours that I’ve seen and who have been highly intransigent and unwilling to try to improve/to move towards playing in a less abrasive manner.

It’s also trickier reading you because I have no scum meta for you so idk what it will look like when you roll scum (in a normal game that is, in excluding Avalon)

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:18 pm
by DkKoba
You seem quite irrational votato, are you sure you do not wish to logically engage?

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:21 pm
by DkKoba
I will continue to grill you until you townread me btw. Bc I know deep in your heart you know I'm town and you just wanna be a brat about it <3

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:27 pm
by Datisi
I'm getting complaints, it's 6:30am, my mind is barely functioning right now, and I don't have the strength to read. A reminder to everyone to treat others with respect. Thank you.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:41 pm
by Alduskkel
wow i'm not sure i want to read the last 5 pages