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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:16 am
by Porkens
Ok NOW if there is a different town PR it’s great to claim.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:17 am
by Porkens
VOTE: unvote

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:20 am
by T-Bone
In post 525, GeorgeBailey wrote:
Votecount 1.8

GeniusGamer(4)
~ (80), (68), (41), (64)
Even more fascinating now. Hmmm.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:22 am
by Porkens
I kinda think we can rule out italiano

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:23 am
by T-Bone
We can probably safely narrow down our lynch pool to (Mini, Shelley, word, and Red) (and you'd include me if you're not me). Why am I excluding Porkens and Italiano? I still think Italiano is town, and Porkens being the first vote changes that calculus considering how fast the other votes came.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:30 am
by ItalianoVD
Okay...

@Genius: I’m not sure how you do your reads and you have mentioned you are new, but I don’t know, wouldn’t it have been or be a better strategy to have reads for the entire playerlist, even if the majority is null? I just don’t get why only 3 people were in your reads.

If SJReaver is your partner, then that’s means, N0blenoob was your partner correct? None of you have interacted the entire day. To everyone: As Masons are you supposed to be distancing yourself from your partner? How does it help town. If Masons have no power other than the knowledge of the other Mason then I assume that there wouldn’t be caution to crumb their role since they can’t roleblock, or track, or protect, etc. Am I off in my thinking?

@SJReaver: If Genius is/was your partner why would you lead the town to believe that you are suspicious of him? Again how does this help the town?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:39 am
by T-Bone
Correct Mason play is to stay hidden and alive for as long as possible, Italiano.

Also, they cannot be scum fakeclaiming Masons. It's not possible. Mafia fakeclaiming Masons in this set-up is an autoloss.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:40 am
by GeniusGamer
In post 580, ItalianoVD wrote:@Genius: I’m not sure how you do your reads and you have mentioned you are new, but I don’t know, wouldn’t it have been or be a better strategy to have reads for the entire playerlist, even if the majority is null? I just don’t get why only 3 people were in your reads.
You sort of interrupted me writing another portion of my reads list. Again, they take a long time, so I posted a few at once, which is what I’m still doing. It’s better to do a few at a time than look like I suddenly quit.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:51 am
by SJReaver
I've been pushing for word-shelly.

I think italino and porkins are town. I've been trying to figure out how to tackle a scum!Porkens and it gives me a headache.

If we want to talk about correct mason play and how this went down, that's fine, but I spoke up because I felt time was getting wasted. So let's at least look at our suspect list.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:53 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 581, T-Bone wrote:Correct Mason play is to stay hidden and alive for as long as possible, Italiano.

Also, they cannot be scum fakeclaiming Masons. It's not possible. Mafia fakeclaiming Masons in this set-up is an autoloss.
Hmm. Okay. I don’t like it, but it is what it is.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:56 am
by ItalianoVD
Alright so with these new events in mind. I can assume:

Town:
Genius
SJReaver
Myself
Porkens
TBone
Mini
Red

That leaves Shelly and Word (Micc) as scum

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:58 am
by T-Bone
It's not time wasting. Italiano wanted to know if it was possible for mafia to fakeclaim Masons. That is a valid concern.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:00 am
by Porkens
I think its fine. The maf are stuck shooting masons for two nights so it’s essentially 5:2 right now.

Italiano I’m ok with Shelly but can you explain your reasons for a TR on mini?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:02 am
by Redados
In post 586, T-Bone wrote:It's not time wasting. Italiano wanted to know if it was possible for mafia to fakeclaim Masons. That is a valid concern.
Thanks for explaining this, I hadn't realized it was an autoloss.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:04 am
by SJReaver
In post 586, T-Bone wrote:It's not time wasting. Italiano wanted to know if it was possible for mafia to fakeclaim Masons. That is a valid concern.
It is.

But he was also shooting a bunch of questions about the situation at Genius and I. It takes Genius while to compose his thoughts, and if I start in about what's happened, it could lead to its own discussion.

We have five active townies on right now. We could get someone to e-1 easily right now.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:07 am
by Redados
In post 589, SJReaver wrote:
In post 586, T-Bone wrote:It's not time wasting. Italiano wanted to know if it was possible for mafia to fakeclaim Masons. That is a valid concern.
It is.

But he was also shooting a bunch of questions about the situation at Genius and I. It takes Genius while to compose his thoughts, and if I start in about what's happened, it could lead to its own discussion.

We have five active townies on right now. We could get someone to e-1 easily right now.
Who do you suggest?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:08 am
by T-Bone
I suggest the person we are both voting for!

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:10 am
by SJReaver
In post 591, T-Bone wrote:I suggest the person we are both voting for!
That's word321, by the way.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:10 am
by Redados
Here's my readlist:

Town:
SJReaver
GeniusGamer
ItalianoVD

Null:
Porkens
T-Bone
Hat Guy

Scum and/or Confused Townie:
ShellyC
MiniMegabyte

I would prefer to vote for Shelly or Mini today. Mini less likely to be scum than Shelly imo

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:11 am
by Redados
I could be convinced to vote for Word321/Hat Guy today, but we've really only seen him have the one interaction when he entered. I would like to hear more from him. Or maybe he is laying low on purpose.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:12 am
by T-Bone
In post 594, Redados wrote:I could be convinced to vote for Word321/Hat Guy today, but we've really only seen him have the one interaction when he entered. I would like to hear more from him. Or maybe he is laying low on purpose.
You've also seen all of Micc.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:13 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 587, Porkens wrote:I think its fine. The maf are stuck shooting masons for two nights so it’s essentially 5:2 right now.

Italiano I’m ok with Shelly but can you explain your reasons for a TR on mini?
Yeah, it’s as I said before, I only have our previous game together to go off of and she has played similar to last game where she was town, even down to not having really solid leads and “sheeping” others. I believe she is truly still trying to learn the game.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:15 am
by SJReaver
In post 593, Redados wrote:Here's my readlist:

Town:
SJReaver
GeniusGamer
ItalianoVD

Null:
Porkens
T-Bone
Hat Guy

Scum and/or Confused Townie:
ShellyC
MiniMegabyte

I would prefer to vote for Shelly or Mini today. Mini less likely to be scum than Shelly imo
I am confused on why you and Shelly both call him Hat Guy and have everyone else's name down perfectly. I feel this is something I need to look into because I legit can't remember half this stuff but word321 sticks in my mind.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:18 am
by SJReaver
In post 596, ItalianoVD wrote: Yeah, it’s as I said before, I only have our previous game together to go off of and she has played similar to last game where she was town, even down to not having really solid leads and “sheeping” others. I believe she is truly still trying to learn the game.

Mini also feels townie to me.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:20 am
by T-Bone
Not that I want to provide cover to a legitimate thought...but I find word321 the most unremarkable username in this playerlist and have trouble not calling them Micc instead!