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In post 565, Uncrowned wrote:@Skit @S_S @Infinity

sorry to be self-indulgent but do you have any thoughts on Post 552

I think it's interesting and would like to see dave's response.

i'm finding it difficult to analyse the rapid-fire conversational style of this game.

so, in lieu of detailed analysis, i'm simply going to shoot from the hip with some intuitive impressions. here we go:


- dodged the pressure of her wagon when it was at it peak momentum, which is a shame. now that she's around, she seems fluffy and whimsical. on pure intuition leaning town, but generally i find this player archetype hard to read. i'll likely be relying on group wisdom to guide me here - seems other folks know her meta.

- played a game as scum against him recently, and he was a dominant voice on D1 that seemed quite obviously town. granted, i had confirmed info that game which can sometimes trick you into thinking someone is more town than they actually are, but i haven't seen similar town energy from him yet.

- she clearly seems the most town to me. there's a chance i'm mistaking "most town" for "most competent", but if that's the case, she'll either be NK'ed early or be BOP'ed if she's still alive on D3+. i'm probably not going to spend much time focusing on her.

- under-the-radar somewhat. not a crime per se in a game this fast, but given it's (theoretically) easier to stream-of-conscious spam through the pages as town, under-the-radar seems a viable factor to consider in a D1 execution. hasn't done anything outright scummy, but from a POE perspective he is suss given i have mostly town-leanings.

- the other shining star along with skitter that i'll likely wait until they're NK'ed or BOP'ed. my only gripe is i wish he didn't cherish his vote like a mint condition star wars action figure. pull it out of the box man!

- i'm a believer in awarding town points for super active players (as annoying as they are). a few of his posts have felt cosmetic, but i suppose when you throw out as many nets as he does, some will come back empty. i don't know. i've been skimming his posts recently, and i shamelessly admit to this fact, if only as passive-aggressive way to guilt-trip him into a "quality over quantity" mindset. regardless, as most active poster, he gets a pass for now.

- i think his handling of the jackson virgo episode was very level-headed (given i now realise JV is prob-town). i think he could have easily been sucked into going along with my logic, or at least not played devil's advocate in a way to throw the brakes on what could have been a fast wagon if there was less resistance. leaning town.

- i have a vague uneasiness with peta's willingness to go to bat for my parade of naked voting. a part of me feels like it's early buddying, but it could also be we both share a similar philosophy about voting/wagoning. leaning scum so far. she also tricked me into attacking a fellow member of the 4 bracket!

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i'm stopping here, as the 5's (pine and DGB) haven't entered the game yet and unless someone in the 4's scumslips in a big way i'm not voting there. so, realistically i'm probably going to want to execute a singleton.

no slamdunk scumreads yet, but here's a rough idea of my current preferred order:

petapan
dunnstral
davesaz
lilith
uncrowned
infinity 324
something_smart
skitter
(pine, dgb)
(the 4's)

VOTE: petapan

In post 476, skitter30 wrote:

In post 471, lilith2013 wrote:I don't have any townpings from SS from so far, which... based on my read meter for him, means he's probably scum.

Hmmmmmm

In post 482, lilith2013 wrote:okay so I have a super crazy wild theory that SS and skitter are scum together and the reason that skitter's scumreading me so early is because they know I can read SS really well

So i thought from the first quote that you were gonna double down on scum!ss in an attempt to force me to choose between my own ss townread and listening to scum you on him (given that we both know i know you can read him well), in order to divert me off of you

But like this doesnt really feel like a real thought

Outside of this super crazy theory do you have a read on me?

In post 484, Something_Smart wrote:Dammit lilith you are scum aren't you

She is

In post 490, lilith2013 wrote:and her reaction to me talking about you also felt partnery to me.

Oh?
In what way?

In post 515, Uncrowned wrote:S_S feels like the voice of reason in this game which to me feels townie

I was just thinking that!

I'm having a hard time understand ing tgp's thought process to the point that it feels like an amorphous disconnected blob that idk how to assign a read too

Like it's there, and i read it, but i have no conclusions

Like i cant wrap my head around his thought process. That doesn't mean it can't be townie (or scummy), ut just means idk what to do with it

In post 565, Uncrowned wrote:@Skit @S_S @Infinity

sorry to be self-indulgent but do you have any thoughts on Post 552

I have some scumvibes on dave, yeah
Hes like popping in to comment on the wrong things / on inane things

On an unrelated topic, would you ever consider voting out the top of the draft day1?

In post 576, Hoopla wrote:now that she's around, she seems fluffy and whimsical. on pure intuition leaning town, but generally i find this player archetype hard to read. i'll likely be relying on group wisdom to guide me here - seems other folks know her meta.

Except town!her usually brings a lot more content, is more focused, doesn't ask inane questions which basically dont go anywhere (but this is something she does as scum!), and is capable of quickly becoming an obvtown force to be reckoned with

In post 576, Hoopla wrote:dunnstral - played a game as scum against him recently, and he was a dominant voice on D1 that seemed quite obviously town. granted, i had confirmed info that game which can sometimes trick you into thinking someone is more town than they actually are, but i haven't seen similar town energy from him yet.

He has towngames like the one you describe, but he also has towngames where he's more underwhelming and absent

I approve of your assessment of me : thumbsup:

In post 524, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 399, PenguinPower wrote:Bray

What does this mean?

hilarious duck got a pagetop from this

In post 538, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 535, davesaz wrote:

In post 523, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 368, PenguinPower wrote:

In post 366, davesaz wrote:Nobody asked, but my lilith vote was because she went out of her way to pagetop.

there's nothing wrong with that.

Uhhh, what even is this?

There were people saying that the lilith wagon had formed because she had first pick in the draft.
I explained my vote relative to that assumption.
Not sure whether PP was saying there's nothing wrong with voting people for pagetopping, or if there's nothing wrong with pagetopping.
Enigmatic, but I give a small number of weak town points for it. More specifically for not saying my post is scummy since I lobbed it out there as a tool to gather exactly that kind of response.

@PP can you asnwer what you meant

Nothing wrong with making an effort to pagetop...I thought that would be obvious coming from me

In post 586, PenguinPower wrote:

In post 538, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 535, davesaz wrote:

In post 523, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 368, PenguinPower wrote:

In post 366, davesaz wrote:Nobody asked, but my lilith vote was because she went out of her way to pagetop.

there's nothing wrong with that.

Uhhh, what even is this?

There were people saying that the lilith wagon had formed because she had first pick in the draft.
I explained my vote relative to that assumption.
Not sure whether PP was saying there's nothing wrong with voting people for pagetopping, or if there's nothing wrong with pagetopping.
Enigmatic, but I give a small number of weak town points for it. More specifically for not saying my post is scummy since I lobbed it out there as a tool to gather exactly that kind of response.

@PP can you asnwer what you meant

Nothing wrong with making an effort to pagetop...I thought that would be obvious coming from me

Yeah alright if you said anything else I would be sus of you lmfao

Hoopla

Why is JV not in your readings?

I also don't really like your read on me. My activity isn't what should make me town here. This read feels very low effort.

In post 576, Hoopla wrote:(the 4's)

I fit in that

I don't like the fact they refuse to read in the 4s or whatnot, I feel that's just stupid for town to do.

In post 576, Hoopla wrote:petapan - i have a vague uneasiness with peta's willingness to go to bat for my parade of naked voting. a part of me feels like it's early buddying, but it could also be we both share a similar philosophy about voting/wagoning. leaning scum so far. she also tricked me into attacking a fellow member of the 4 bracket!

huge fan btw

@Hoopla, I recall you saying there's likely one scum in the 4s. If so that's a 33% shot if you read in there yet you're choosing not to?

Peta did you really choose 100000000000000000000000000 for the lulz or did you want a unique number thinking more people would have grouped numbers?

Honest or I yeet you to oblivion with my N3 vigilante shot (jkjk unless)

Is there a world where all the PRs are active btw? Because why the hell would mafia choose informed in that case rather than multitasking. Is it possible that mafia tried grouping or something to benefit from the new mechanics here.

I'm gonna take some time to do some iioa here because we're not just dealing with pyp. Give me a sec

I lowkey have a small inkling that mafia chose 2,3 and 4 respectively. That would make Lilith, Dunnstral and one of the 4's mafia which I'll have to do some looking into but ngl that would make sense to me as I would probably try that.

Maybe 3,4,5 instead but you get my gist. Although mafia choosing informed while doing that is probably counterintuitive so maybe not?

I answered my own question by reading, all PRs can exist at once

In post 590, JacksonVirgo wrote:I don't like the fact they refuse to read in the 4s or whatnot, I feel that's just stupid for town to do.

^

Also @Hoopla

I also somewhat defended your jumping on wagons (along with PPs) but you don't bring this up in my read, but you do for Peta?

This reads list is real concerning to me. He's leaving the door open on everyone that won't be as hard to lynch as myself, Skitter and S_S. Why is me doing the same thing as Peta not considered scummy, outside of activity?

In post 576, Hoopla wrote:davesaz - under-the-radar somewhat. not a crime per se in a game this fast, but given it's (theoretically) easier to stream-of-conscious spam through the pages as town, under-the-radar seems a viable factor to consider in a D1 execution. hasn't done anything outright scummy, but from a POE perspective he is suss given

i have mostly town-leanings.

this doesn't seem to really line up with what you've said about people?