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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:11 pm
by Infinity 324
I don't think you can really get a read on zdenek from what he's posted. Like, "Doesn't like the look" is like a weak version of an SR, it's NAI

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:13 pm
by DkKoba
bc im a better player than u

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:14 pm
by DkKoba
i cant explain it theres just a feeling. That i can sense from the posts that its bs

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:18 pm
by Infinity 324
ok

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:19 pm
by DkKoba
ok goodnight i hope i wake up to the info im looking for.

I work in complex ways >:)

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:31 pm
by JacksonVirgo
In post 557, DkKoba wrote:
In post 547, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 544, Infinity 324 wrote:Jackson I didn't read much of the game but I don't agree at all

Spoiler: discrediting in the other game
In post 326, DkKoba wrote:andres ignoring me .

not a good start
In post 368, DkKoba wrote:im not sheeping your reads bud I'm making my own.

but keep AtEing me it fuels my desire to make you see rope <3
In post 374, DkKoba wrote:i hope u stretched b4 your reach <3 . <3

i dont need to convince you that you are scum, i would rather not have my explainations be drowned out.

also, again, i was busy playing games with friends and now im tired asf around the time the so i just gave out what my conclusions from my analysis was.
im sorry u rolled mafia but thats just how it be bud.
In post 479, DkKoba wrote:how is janko null to you LOOOOOOOOOOL

and u want to shade my mafia skill here
In post 820, DkKoba wrote:
In post 799, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VP and Hell are definately scummy. DKK is not looking good but could be bad town.
Im playing 3d chess while ur playing checkers
In post 885, DkKoba wrote:i smell a bullshit copout to stay on the wagon and help it dissolve but aight
I don't think I'm very good at explaining myself, I saw that they were discrediting in that game but not in the same way as this game. That game they were more direct

Spoiler:
In post 236, DkKoba wrote:vp if ur pocketing me im allowing it... for now.
In post 247, DkKoba wrote:Sesq confirned and didnt post? Lmfao
In post 248, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: jackson ill explain in a bit when i can type it up. I believe i hinted at this move earlier but i was hoping to see more info before i transitioned over
In post 260, DkKoba wrote:i want to vote in Jackson zdenek and math today
In post 262, DkKoba wrote:Has to do with the reaction to being called on their rxn test
In post 267, DkKoba wrote:??? How lmfao
In post 270, DkKoba wrote:lol math frozen
In post 299, DkKoba wrote:where ur vote at jackson
In post 349, DkKoba wrote:stop misrepping me thx
In post 389, DkKoba wrote:lol what?
In post 392, DkKoba wrote:So?
In post 432, DkKoba wrote:god sometimes i wish they would
In post 434, DkKoba wrote:kinda vibing with this math vote but tempted to switch to jackson

Do you not see the entire tonal change?
wow sur fucking prise i speak differently among a different table idk what ur issue is
u think im just a 2d cutout ?

ur seriously hard reaching with this one
That isn't just minor changes, it's a whole tonal change.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:32 pm
by JacksonVirgo
In post 559, shellyc wrote:Jackson, what is the difference between confidence and discrediting?

Koba what makes you think JV is not shading you as scum? I can 100% see this as scum bravado
Confidence is thinking you have the right reads
Discrediting is where you destroy someones rep so that nobody will listen to what people say.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:33 pm
by JacksonVirgo
In post 560, shellyc wrote:
In post 533, JacksonVirgo wrote:Keeping a top-town status is pretty easy when you into the game. So being a top-poster means shit all. Giving top content D1 means shit all as the only people that actually know shit is mafia and that way they can semi-easily just control town who would know next to nothing.

They've been constantly discrediting those who disagree with them, whether that be directly or by constantly at everyone. I've started calling it out every time I see it
Posting is scum
Giving content is scum

this is a seriously wifomy take here
I didn't say that at all, the fuck.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:34 pm
by JacksonVirgo
Koba: Scum always pushes me lol
Me: Pushes them
Koba: They must be dumb town, scum would never push me

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:36 pm
by JacksonVirgo
In post 433, DkKoba wrote:pretty sure every scum in the past like 5 games or so has pushed on me and said im scum and attempted to push my ML so LOL
In post 556, DkKoba wrote:
In post 549, JacksonVirgo wrote:Also they still haven't said shit about why I was scummy about the reaction test when they said they had a whole heckin' case on me
holy fuck because clearly ur intentions were to not get scumread for fakeclaiming lmfao

i have a feelign ur just bad town because ur takes are just so astronomically bad i feel like as scum being informed u would never actually say things these bad.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:36 pm
by JacksonVirgo
In post 576, DkKoba wrote:bc im a better player than u
Get your cockiness the fuck out of here pleb

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:37 pm
by JacksonVirgo
In post 579, DkKoba wrote:I work in complex ways >:)
Scum

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:02 pm
by Zdenek
In post 284, shellyc wrote:Koba is too engaged and proactive to be scum
Is this a meta read or a general opinion?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:03 pm
by Zdenek
In post 287, shellyc wrote:
In post 284, shellyc wrote:Why do you think the discrediting comes from scum

Koba is too engaged and proactive to be scum at all
unless this is actually in kobas scumrange im impressed. their reads vibe with my own, they are trying to further the game and constantly providing content
I see that it is a general opinion. One that I disagree with.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:43 pm
by geraintm
In post 469, Andresvmb wrote:If geraintm’s contributions don’t add up for me later in the game by all means. I just don’t get the point. There’s not even an attempt at reading other players. I will also say though that playing only based on the limited information that you get from votes and flips tends not to work for me.
I find it very difficult to read players on day 1 when all we have are a few votes. it is incredibly rare for someone to actually say something that is actually indicative of their alignment. so why waste so much effort on a fruitless chase?
In post 472, Not_Mafia wrote:I see Geraint is getting the usual reaction
yep
In post 525, VP Baltar wrote:Also, for anyone who has played with not_mafia....what was your experience? Do they become useful at some point later in the game if they are town?
a few games. day 1 doesn't do much, but becomes much more valuable as the game moves on if they are town. there was a reason I killed them night 1 in my last game.
but if they are scum, then they get to coast for ages
In post 463, JacksonVirgo wrote:My IC thing isn't real fyi
why you do it then? :(
I hate townies confusing the game state. please don't do it to me

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:45 pm
by shellyc
In post 581, JacksonVirgo wrote:Confidence is thinking you have the right reads
Discrediting is where you destroy someones rep so that nobody will listen to what people say.
I think I have a right SR on people and start pushing said person. Destroying reputation is a very similar thing to attacking someone?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:45 pm
by shellyc
In post 588, Zdenek wrote:I see that it is a general opinion. One that I disagree with.
are you gunna stop at that
if you don't like the consensus then put in a fair share of effort to change it instead of complaining.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:47 pm
by shellyc
In post 589, geraintm wrote:I find it very difficult to read players on day 1 when all we have are a few votes. it is incredibly rare for someone to actually say something that is actually indicative of their alignment. so why waste so much effort on a fruitless chase?
if we all zero effort this the game will never be furthered. even the slightest push garners reactions.

I don't want to be professor of mafia but if we don't engage nothing will ever happen

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:54 pm
by geraintm
In post 592, shellyc wrote:
In post 589, geraintm wrote:I find it very difficult to read players on day 1 when all we have are a few votes. it is incredibly rare for someone to actually say something that is actually indicative of their alignment. so why waste so much effort on a fruitless chase?
if we all zero effort this the game will never be furthered. even the slightest push garners reactions.

I don't want to be professor of mafia but if we don't engage nothing will ever happen
well, we would move to night one and day 2 with one dead townie and a bunch of night actions from other players. that is a more interesting game state than right now

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:25 am
by JacksonVirgo
In post 590, shellyc wrote:
In post 581, JacksonVirgo wrote:Confidence is thinking you have the right reads
Discrediting is where you destroy someones rep so that nobody will listen to what people say.
I think I have a right SR on people and start pushing said person. Destroying reputation is a very similar thing to attacking someone?
No attacking someone isn't the same as destroying someones rep, at least from my definition of it. I think it's a very grey area though

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:28 am
by JacksonVirgo
In post 593, geraintm wrote:
In post 592, shellyc wrote:
In post 589, geraintm wrote:I find it very difficult to read players on day 1 when all we have are a few votes. it is incredibly rare for someone to actually say something that is actually indicative of their alignment. so why waste so much effort on a fruitless chase?
if we all zero effort this the game will never be furthered. even the slightest push garners reactions.

I don't want to be professor of mafia but if we don't engage nothing will ever happen
well, we would move to night one and day 2 with one dead townie and a bunch of night actions from other players. that is a more interesting game state than right now
I understand where you're coming from but we should still try our hardest D1 as it's wasted utility otherwise.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:32 am
by VP Baltar
In post 593, geraintm wrote:well, we would move to night one and day 2 with one dead townie and a bunch of night actions from other players. that is a more interesting game state than right now
Who should we yeet right now so we can move to N1?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:36 am
by geraintm
In post 595, JacksonVirgo wrote: I understand where you're coming from but we should still try our hardest D1 as it's wasted utility otherwise.
is it though? like 99% of day 1s end in town getting lynched, I am all for no lynch day 1 and only losing one member of town.
or I'm happy to pick straws to see who is day 1 sacrifice. it will have a better chance of catching scum than actually voting.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:40 am
by JacksonVirgo
In post 597, geraintm wrote:
In post 595, JacksonVirgo wrote: I understand where you're coming from but we should still try our hardest D1 as it's wasted utility otherwise.
is it though? like 99% of day 1s end in town getting lynched, I am all for no lynch day 1 and only losing one member of town.
or I'm happy to pick straws to see who is day 1 sacrifice. it will have a better chance of catching scum than actually voting.
Would you rather have a town lynched D1 or that exact same town getting lynched in LyLo.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:19 am
by geraintm
I'm not sure I understand the point of that question?