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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:09 pm
by Purple Heart
In post 573, Noraa wrote:The Purple slot ate their TR on me really fast.
Why would I not throw my TR away on you when you started pushing me for bullshit hello?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:12 pm
by Purple Heart
In post 569, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 566, Purple Heart wrote:I think the biggest difference between town!noraa and scum!noraa is I feel like scum!noraa will want to paint our slot scummy using whatever means possible
What makes you think that? I think very strong reads are town indicative for Noraa
There is a difference between "strong" and "unnatural"

When you have a few valid concerns that you feel like need to be addressed but how the person is addressing them just doesn't work for you, that would be a strong read. It's strong because the concerns cannot be addressed.
When you are doing everything in your power to force a read, you are being unnatural. When you are trying to justify a read using anything you can grab onto, you are being unnatural.

Which one do you think Noraa is right now? Do you think she has valid concerns or do you think she's just trying to force the read?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:12 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 571, Infinity 324 wrote:Murder what are your thoughts on the last few pages?
I'm not nearly as convinced about purple as Noraa is but I feel ok about you and her being town

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:13 pm
by Infinity 324
Purple definitely is starting to read genuine

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:14 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 576, Purple Heart wrote:Which one do you think Noraa is right now? Do you think she has valid concerns or do you think she's just trying to force the read?
I disagree with the premise of the question. I think this is town Noraa thinking she caught scum. Off the top of my head I can think of three examples where Noraa acted like this. She was right for one of them

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:14 pm
by Purple Heart
In post 578, Infinity 324 wrote:Purple definitely is starting to read genuine
please help me

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:20 pm
by Purple Heart
In post 579, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 576, Purple Heart wrote:Which one do you think Noraa is right now? Do you think she has valid concerns or do you think she's just trying to force the read?
I disagree with the premise of the question. I think this is town Noraa thinking she caught scum. Off the top of my head I can think of three examples where Noraa acted like this. She was right for one of them
How am I supposed to identify that? To me it seems like noraa is just forcing down a read and refusing to listen to anything that might prove that she's wrong.

Also no offense, but how am I supposed to trust your meta on noraa? What if you 2 are both scum covering for each other?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:33 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 581, Purple Heart wrote:How am I supposed to identify that? To me it seems like noraa is just forcing down a read and refusing to listen to anything that might prove that she's wrong.

Also no offense, but how am I supposed to trust your meta on noraa? What if you 2 are both scum covering for each other?
That is my experience with town Noraa :lol:

Here's some examples:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12210382
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12244604
(There isn't a great example tunnel post for this one, but this was through her own result that was semiclearing)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12221661
(It was clearly not echo and I was saying so in the dead thread)

Not that I really expect you to be convinced by meta anyway

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:34 pm
by Noraa
In post 574, Purple Heart wrote:just seems way too unnatural
both heads using the same phrase to SR me is a 99% scum tell. Hydras never work like that even if they agree with each other.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:35 pm
by Noraa
In post 575, Purple Heart wrote:
In post 573, Noraa wrote:The Purple slot ate their TR on me really fast.
Why would I not throw my TR away on you when you started pushing me for bullshit hello?
Both infinity and Murder agree with me. why u pushing only me but buddying both of them?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:37 pm
by Noraa
In post 579, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 576, Purple Heart wrote:Which one do you think Noraa is right now? Do you think she has valid concerns or do you think she's just trying to force the read?
I disagree with the premise of the question. I think this is town Noraa thinking she caught scum. Off the top of my head I can think of three examples where Noraa acted like this. She was right for one of them
not even 1/1000000000th as confident as I was that time, if this helps give u a scale of how confident I really am.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:44 pm
by Purple Heart
ali <3
sleeeeeeep

i cant talk much for the remainder of the evening, but i want to clarify something about
Noraa
and reply to
Infinity


Infinity
; no fun 3: It's easier for me to engage with a game when people want me to spew. Do you feel that your current answers to questions you pose have helped you solve?
In post 545, Noraa wrote:
In post 532, Purple Heart wrote:also today is nail care day so be back soon :D

Image

~taly
The taly head is less scummy but both r low-key scummy anyways....
In post 573, Noraa wrote:The Purple slot ate their TR on me really fast.
In post 583, Noraa wrote:
In post 574, Purple Heart wrote:just seems way too unnatural
both heads using the same phrase to SR me is a 99% scum tell. Hydras never work like that even if they agree with each other.
>
This head did not state a townread or a scumread on you. Your posts of me are a misrepresentation. I am evaluating the strength of the reads on you so I can solve you and your interactions better.

But it is good to know that you scumread both heads outside of
Koba
.

~taly

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:48 pm
by Noraa
Oh nvm that was all Ali?

Ok well Ali is either an extremely scummy player or just scum here.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:52 pm
by Purple Heart
In post 583, Noraa wrote:
In post 574, Purple Heart wrote:just seems way too unnatural
both heads using the same phrase to SR me is a 99% scum tell. Hydras never work like that even if they agree with each other.
How many hydra’s have you been apart of? Is it a single digit number?
I’ve been in a lot of hydras, like 10 or maybe 20 honestly.

Like if you’re town, I don’t believe how delusional you must be to think you perfectly understand everything there is to understand about hydras when you just started playing on site and you’re just starting to try out hydraing.

Like, I’ve not been apart of a lot of hydras (Even with more then 2 players in them, hell, I’ve even apart of one of the biggest hydras on site that was had 12+ People in them), but I’ve modded a hell of a lot of games, and was the best mod in 2017, partially because I modded really cool Hydra ONLY games.

I feel like I would understand hydras to know more then well enough that you are just wrong here. If player’s view the game similarly, they will tend to use the same words. It rubs off of people. It’s very easy for both heads of a hydra to use the same phrases.

And that’s because this is a really amazing hydra. Its a hydra where both players are participating and thinking about the game and cooperating with each other. Talking to Taly about reads has been a blast.

This isn’t an experience you will get right away because sometimes hydras just won’t work.

You’re not lucky and you just don’t understand hydras well enough to deduce what is a scumtell and what isn’t.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:53 pm
by Purple Heart
In post 587, Noraa wrote:Oh nvm that was all Ali?

Ok well Ali is either an extremely scummy player or just scum here.
Taly signs all of his posts.

Honestly, this is somewhat releaving to hear.
You might actually just be town

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:55 pm
by Purple Heart
I'll apologize for most of that post came from feelings of me feeling like my experience and knowledge of the game when it came to hydras. I know a lot about hydras and I've participated in many and modded games with many of them. I'm sorry if you feel like that discredits any of your experiences.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:56 pm
by MURDERCAT
Kinda leaning back towards town here Noraa

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:57 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 586, Purple Heart wrote:Infinity; no fun 3: It's easier for me to engage with a game when people want me to spew. Do you feel that your current answers to questions you pose have helped you solve?
Yeah, a good example was murder’s response to my light TR on outworlder, which looked towny

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:08 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 588, Purple Heart wrote:
In post 583, Noraa wrote:
In post 574, Purple Heart wrote:just seems way too unnatural
both heads using the same phrase to SR me is a 99% scum tell. Hydras never work like that even if they agree with each other.
How many hydra’s have you been apart of? Is it a single digit number?
I’ve been in a lot of hydras, like 10 or maybe 20 honestly.

Like if you’re town, I don’t believe how delusional you must be to think you perfectly understand everything there is to understand about hydras when you just started playing on site and you’re just starting to try out hydraing.

Like, I’ve not been apart of a lot of hydras (Even with more then 2 players in them, hell, I’ve even apart of one of the biggest hydras on site that was had 12+ People in them), but I’ve modded a hell of a lot of games, and was the best mod in 2017, partially because I modded really cool Hydra ONLY games.

I feel like I would understand hydras to know more then well enough that you are just wrong here. If player’s view the game similarly, they will tend to use the same words. It rubs off of people. It’s very easy for both heads of a hydra to use the same phrases.

And that’s because this is a really amazing hydra. Its a hydra where both players are participating and thinking about the game and cooperating with each other. Talking to Taly about reads has been a blast.

This isn’t an experience you will get right away because sometimes hydras just won’t work.

You’re not lucky and you just don’t understand hydras well enough to deduce what is a scumtell and what isn’t.
Noraa I really think this slot is town.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:10 pm
by Uncrowned
@Purple

First of all... hi!

Secondly. Yeah, the MURDER/Infinity/Noraa came from the circle voting and what felt like really unearned and handed out TRs. Although I believe MURDER may less likely be part of that now given some of his posting. I think out of the 3 of them he's most likely Town.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:12 pm
by MURDERCAT
I am very surprised by that if I'm being honest

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:14 pm
by Noraa
In post 591, MURDERCAT wrote:Kinda leaning back towards town here Noraa
that's fine. I'm not budging tho.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:16 pm
by Purple Heart
In post 594, Uncrowned wrote:@Purple

First of all... hi!

Secondly. Yeah, the MURDER/Infinity/Noraa came from the circle voting and what felt like really unearned and handed out TRs. Although I believe MURDER may less likely be part of that now given some of his posting. I think out of the 3 of them he's most likely Town.
Hi! Let's talk, because quite frankly you worry me a lot.
I'm assuming you think the team is Infinity and Noraa?

I honestly disagree.
I think it would be really impressive for noraa and infinity to cordinate a play where me and noraa get in a fight and another member of the scumteam tries to break it up.
Mostly because I don't really see the point here, both slots just benefit from letting me self-destruct and explode. There's no reason to step in and mediate this fight if you're scum UNLESS you're scum with me.

I feel like for infinity to be scum, it would be much more realistic for him to be scum with me then noraa. If I'm scum with him, he has more incentive to try to break up the fight then to let it keep going.

What I'm basically trying to say is I don't think it makes sense for it to be Infinity and Noraa.
If you really think that Infinity is scum, wouldn't make more sense for him to be scum with me?
Like I'm town, I know I'm town, and I think Infinity is town because as scum it makes no sense for him to break up this fight.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:16 pm
by Noraa
OOOOO YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my hydra is gonna come rolling in soon. Just watch. its magical.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:17 pm
by Noraa
In post 597, Purple Heart wrote:Hi! Let's talk, because quite frankly you worry me a lot.
+1