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Subject: Micro 917: Saga Mafia Game Over!

Jingle wrote:

Day Start 1

With 9 alive, it is 5 to Lynch!

mastina (0):
CheekyTeeky (0):
Pine (0):
Sujimichi (0):
50 Judge Powers (0):
TrueSoulEnergy (0):
TemporalLich (0):
Not Known 15 (0):
Pink Ball (0):

Not Voting (9): mastina, CheekyTeeky, Pine, Sujimichi, 50 Judge Powers, TrueSoulEnergy, TemporalLich, Not Known 15, Pink Ball

Deadline: Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-01-28 18:00:00)

Jingle wrote:Pink Ball has been killed!

He was:

Spoiler: Pink Ball

Welcome, Pink Ball to Saga Mafia!

You are

Ghüs

, a Seal-Man from the Planet Quietus. You are aligned with Hazel's Family, and win when all Threats to Hazel have been eliminated.

One of the Herd

: You raise your herd on a remote planet. Should you choose, you may give one of the members of your herd to another player once during each day. They will be told they have received this gift, but not who sent it. This notification will be flavored, but will have no further effect.

Vote Count 1.1

With 8 alive, it is 5 to Lynch!

mastina (0):
CheekyTeeky (0):
Pine (0):
Sujimichi (0):
50 Judge Powers (0):
TrueSoulEnergy (0):
TemporalLich (0):
Not Known 15 (0):

Not Voting (8): mastina, CheekyTeeky, Pine, Sujimichi, 50 Judge Powers, TrueSoulEnergy, TemporalLich, Not Known 15

Deadline: Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-01-31 18:00:00)

Those were consecutive posts. It's a fun read if anyone is bored.

In post 573, Pink Ball wrote:To both of you: I'm aware of that and I've learned to pay a lot of attention to the pronoun of your preference since I'm not a native english speaker and I get it wrong sometimes because of lack of experience, so don't worry!

Accidental mistakes cool. Just Ebwop like any other typo and move on.

What’s not cool is doing it repeatedly or attack helicopter shit or intentionally refusing to use someone’s pronouns.

u got trapped into fosing me and now i have u in a vicegrip.

pushing me is always a trap.

this game you will learn, but luckily, it is a game that does not count.

only pooky has come out and survived pushing town!koba, if only because i was distracted by one votato. it is why i am fearful of pooky's scumplay bc it is actually pretty good and hard to dissect.


now I think either you are actually really terrible at setup spec or you are purposefully trying to push a bad strat so that child can be easier to figure out.

@Bingle I really hate your ass right now, I come back after six months without playing and this is how I get welcomed?

p-edit @MB don't worry, it won't be a problem also the Dino comparation is only because of the Math part

In post 577, DkKoba wrote:u got trapped into fosing me and now i have u in a vicegrip.

pushing me is always a trap.

this game you will learn, but luckily, it is a game that does not count.

only pooky has come out and survived pushing town!koba, if only because i was distracted by one votato. it is why i am fearful of pooky's scumplay bc it is actually pretty good and hard to dissect.


now I think either you are actually really terrible at setup spec or you are purposefully trying to push a bad strat so that child can be easier to figure out.

How exactly am I pushing child easier to figure out by keeping pants on?

Explain that one.

I haven’t read the last two pages yet but I need to say now that I feel very cautious about claim plans etc in this setup. As mafia last game I felt that all the claims actually made it much easier for me to plan kills and ultimately win and with mafia actually knowing who the loved parent here is I worry that it would be even more advantageous for them

In post 578, Pink Ball wrote:@Bingle I really hate your ass right now, I come back after six months without playing and this is how I get welcomed?

I love you too, Pink Buddy. I'm just getting my licks in cause I'm tr-ing you pretty hard atm.

Peta, Koba and Galron y'all taking cute family pictures

In post 579, MathBlade wrote:

In post 577, DkKoba wrote:u got trapped into fosing me and now i have u in a vicegrip.

pushing me is always a trap.

this game you will learn, but luckily, it is a game that does not count.

only pooky has come out and survived pushing town!koba, if only because i was distracted by one votato. it is why i am fearful of pooky's scumplay bc it is actually pretty good and hard to dissect.


now I think either you are actually really terrible at setup spec or you are purposefully trying to push a bad strat so that child can be easier to figure out.

How exactly am I pushing child easier to figure out by keeping pants on?

Explain that one.

u literally keep the child in the potential limpool.

i really don't think your logic makes any sense or you are aware of how it makes sense but you are brute forcing the argument by feigning ignorance.

scum are going to be able to tell where to kill via the game flow and getting parent reads. having the parents not being worried about pushing the flow of the game away from the child will help with removing those tells which in turn will obfuscate the child from the scumteam. game 1 is probably a bad example because a parent instaclaimed which was a lolreaction and i was planning on roleswapping and or self-limming for the purpose of being clear(the latter which happened).

In post 580, DeasVail wrote:I haven’t read the last two pages yet but I need to say now that I feel very cautious about claim plans etc in this setup. As mafia last game I felt that all the claims actually made it much easier for me to plan kills and ultimately win and with mafia actually knowing who the loved parent here is I worry that it would be even more advantageous for them

the problem there was that BOTH parents were claimed at the same time.

In post 581, Pink Ball wrote:VOTE: petapan

Tell me more, tell me more.

In post 583, Pink Ball wrote:Peta, Koba and Galron y'all taking cute family pictures

this family a bit fucked up if i do say so myself.

In post 584, DkKoba wrote:

In post 579, MathBlade wrote:

In post 577, DkKoba wrote:u got trapped into fosing me and now i have u in a vicegrip.

pushing me is always a trap.

this game you will learn, but luckily, it is a game that does not count.

only pooky has come out and survived pushing town!koba, if only because i was distracted by one votato. it is why i am fearful of pooky's scumplay bc it is actually pretty good and hard to dissect.


now I think either you are actually really terrible at setup spec or you are purposefully trying to push a bad strat so that child can be easier to figure out.

How exactly am I pushing child easier to figure out by keeping pants on?

Explain that one.

u literally keep the child in the potential limpool.

i really don't think your logic makes any sense or you are aware of how it makes sense but you are brute forcing the argument by feigning ignorance.

scum are going to be able to tell where to kill via the game flow and getting parent reads. having the parents not being worried about pushing the flow of the game away from the child will help with removing those tells which in turn will obfuscate the child from the scumteam. game 1 is probably a bad example because a parent instaclaimed which was a lolreaction and i was planning on roleswapping and or self-limming for the purpose of being clear(the latter which happened).

That’s the same argument for any cop in any setup.

If the cop gets ran up, then they do. Then the scum make themselves obvious there. Especially here with two people who will never vote TV.

Yes the child stays in the limpool but that doesn’t openly out them.

Ask Jingle or SirCakez or DV, all have played scum against me and know I am wicked good at identifying PRs as scum.

As scum I don’t fight you here.

They're problably town, but they aren't mastina so they don't have the right to come here, make a post calling everyone town or scum based on their first post. Must die.

In post 585, DkKoba wrote:

In post 580, DeasVail wrote:I haven’t read the last two pages yet but I need to say now that I feel very cautious about claim plans etc in this setup. As mafia last game I felt that all the claims actually made it much easier for me to plan kills and ultimately win and with mafia actually knowing who the loved parent here is I worry that it would be even more advantageous for them

the problem there was that BOTH parents were claimed at the same time.

Any at all is too much a risk D1.

Haven't read about setup arguments but any kind of claim gives scum info for a better nightkill right? I mean they have to decide if they want to deal with a conftown or have better chances of hitting the child

having parent claim removes the worst case scenario where the town child ends up claiming and/or being blatantly obvious from scum pov.

Exactly. The parents are linked to the kids. We want to elim a scum and have them shoot a VT here.

Then if my math is right we can do the child trick but will have to double check.

Pretty much we just have to keep child hidden long enough to cake walk.

In post 588, MathBlade wrote:

In post 584, DkKoba wrote:

In post 579, MathBlade wrote:

In post 577, DkKoba wrote:u got trapped into fosing me and now i have u in a vicegrip.

pushing me is always a trap.

this game you will learn, but luckily, it is a game that does not count.

only pooky has come out and survived pushing town!koba, if only because i was distracted by one votato. it is why i am fearful of pooky's scumplay bc it is actually pretty good and hard to dissect.


now I think either you are actually really terrible at setup spec or you are purposefully trying to push a bad strat so that child can be easier to figure out.

How exactly am I pushing child easier to figure out by keeping pants on?

Explain that one.

u literally keep the child in the potential limpool.

i really don't think your logic makes any sense or you are aware of how it makes sense but you are brute forcing the argument by feigning ignorance.

scum are going to be able to tell where to kill via the game flow and getting parent reads. having the parents not being worried about pushing the flow of the game away from the child will help with removing those tells which in turn will obfuscate the child from the scumteam. game 1 is probably a bad example because a parent instaclaimed which was a lolreaction and i was planning on roleswapping and or self-limming for the purpose of being clear(the latter which happened).

That’s the same argument for any cop in any setup.

If the cop gets ran up, then they do. Then the scum make themselves obvious there. Especially here with two people who will never vote TV.

Yes the child stays in the limpool but that doesn’t openly out them.

Ask Jingle or SirCakez or DV, all have played scum against me and know I am wicked good at identifying PRs as scum.

As scum I don’t fight you here.

meta is good now?

In post 592, DkKoba wrote:having parent claim removes the worst case scenario where the town child ends up claiming and/or being blatantly obvious from scum pov.

You’re not listening when that’s not possible. You just really wanna make scum’s job easy huh? Sure you’re not scum?

In post 594, DkKoba wrote:

In post 588, MathBlade wrote:

In post 584, DkKoba wrote:

In post 579, MathBlade wrote:

In post 577, DkKoba wrote:u got trapped into fosing me and now i have u in a vicegrip.

pushing me is always a trap.

this game you will learn, but luckily, it is a game that does not count.

only pooky has come out and survived pushing town!koba, if only because i was distracted by one votato. it is why i am fearful of pooky's scumplay bc it is actually pretty good and hard to dissect.


now I think either you are actually really terrible at setup spec or you are purposefully trying to push a bad strat so that child can be easier to figure out.

How exactly am I pushing child easier to figure out by keeping pants on?

Explain that one.

u literally keep the child in the potential limpool.

i really don't think your logic makes any sense or you are aware of how it makes sense but you are brute forcing the argument by feigning ignorance.

scum are going to be able to tell where to kill via the game flow and getting parent reads. having the parents not being worried about pushing the flow of the game away from the child will help with removing those tells which in turn will obfuscate the child from the scumteam. game 1 is probably a bad example because a parent instaclaimed which was a lolreaction and i was planning on roleswapping and or self-limming for the purpose of being clear(the latter which happened).

That’s the same argument for any cop in any setup.

If the cop gets ran up, then they do. Then the scum make themselves obvious there. Especially here with two people who will never vote TV.

Yes the child stays in the limpool but that doesn’t openly out them.

Ask Jingle or SirCakez or DV, all have played scum against me and know I am wicked good at identifying PRs as scum.

As scum I don’t fight you here.

meta is good now?

Wow you’re really harping on not reading or nuance.

Scum preys on fear, town works on cooperation. You already said you’re not child. If you continue to not read I can and will tunnel you.Right now I think it’s you and Cakez. I backed off because DV was saying you’re town. If you keep up this antitown claim crap, I will tunnel you hard.

also this is different than the cop argument. this is a "if a specific person dies we lose 2 MLs" argument.

cop obviously doesn't claim without a guilty and/or being on the chopping block. cop only claims with guilty and/or live doc with conf no roleblocker/strongman.

roles that claim are roles that scum are discouraged from nightkilling -> parent is a role that mafia are not encouraged to nightkill because then that can lead to them losing the "shoot town child for 2" advantage.

in epicmafia setups, oftentimes the sheriff(dayvig) claims(because their dayvig will self reveal anyways and they shoot early so that their shot isnt wasted as its oftentimes the ML) or the oracle(a role that reveals another player's role upon death) etc.


and I assure you i would as scum not give a fuck about setup spec this much i would just be passive abt it.

also to parents: you should look for scum treating a certain player as town that is not your child. there is a high chance of scum TMIing their child as town bc they want to avoid forcing a claim from them.

also if we go with the "hide the parents strat" the optimal play for child is to claim as parent