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Because I felt like you were setting up to come at me from your very second post in the game and I also don’t think that’s something I’ve seen you ever do before.

Like in other words I’m not just gonna sit there and take it while you try to misflip me and also it kind of pissed me off that you came in going that I’m “maybe scum” and then “probably scum” without actually even talking to me at all or to try and see where I was coming from

VOTE: vax but I’m not saying that I townread you

I am willing to try and de-escalate if for no other reason than I think the game will be more enjoyable this way, as after last night I don’t particularly feel like playing

In post 576, Mod Pizza wrote:VOTE: vax but I’m not saying that I townread you

what is this?

In post 574, skitter30 wrote:y r u not doing the day1 townread thing?

and what is this?

In post 531, petapan wrote:

In post 419, Prism wrote:Petapan, the sooner you get involved the better, you know.

a hundred posts later popping in to say i'm kind of active lurking but my willpower is not there

wth is this?

In post 577, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 576, Mod Pizza wrote:VOTE: vax but I’m not saying that I townread you

what is this?

I am Giving Peace A Chance but clarifying that even tho I’m unvoting skitter that doesn’t mean I’m townreading her

In post 578, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 574, skitter30 wrote:y r u not doing the day1 townread thing?

and what is this?

I normally treat skitter as locktown on D1 to (1) facilitate a healthy gamestate (2) to get that s y n e r g y going (3) because I don’t generally consider myself good enough to carch her D1 if she’s scum and is trying to fool me and (4) i find that by trying to collaborate with her I normally get a better sense of whether she’s trying to manipulate me or that gamestate, hence actually helping me read her more effectively

In post 580, Mod Pizza wrote:I’m unvoting skitter that doesn’t mean I’m townreading her

LOL

I read it as you voting vax but it doesn't mean you town read vax

In post 580, Mod Pizza wrote:I normally treat skitter as locktown on D1 to (1) facilitate a healthy gamestate (2) to get that s y n e r g y going (3) because I don’t generally consider myself good enough to carch her D1 if she’s scum and is trying to fool me and (4) i find that by trying to collaborate with her I normally get a better sense of whether she’s trying to manipulate me or that gamestate, hence actually helping me read her more effectively

That sounds obsessive and unhealthy.

Tell me more about you bork read.

In post 575, Mod Pizza wrote:Because I felt like you were setting up to come at me from your very second post in the game and I also don’t think that’s something I’ve seen you ever do before.

Like in other words I’m not just gonna sit there and take it while you try to misflip me and also it kind of pissed me off that you came in going that I’m “maybe scum” and then “probably scum” without actually even talking to me at all or to try and see where I was coming from

In post 576, Mod Pizza wrote:VOTE: vax but I’m not saying that I townread you

I am willing to try and de-escalate if for no other reason than I think the game will be more enjoyable this way, as after last night I don’t particularly feel like playing

Ok a few things:
- that was like a really quick catchup post, and i just jotted down my impressions as i had them.
- I wasnt really planning or thinking of immediately pushing you, or like acting on it (in fact i'm p sure i said that i *didnt* want to go down that route just then at least once). In my mind, i wasnt really escalating by going from 'maybe scum' to 'probably scum', and to me, saying something like that in that sort of format is more an invitation to start a dialogue with you than anything else
- i was not trying to piss u off, sorry. I also got a little pissed off, and when i realized that may have been fueling my response i realized i should probably take a step back (and that it may have been fueling your response, sorry)

And i really wasnt trying to piss u off, sorry

In post 582, DrippingGoofball wrote:That sounds obsessive and unhealthy

It's a little weird, yeah, but he's been doing it for a year+ now so at this point i kinda just assume that's what he's gonna do and when he doesnt it's, like, really unusual

VOTE: benhalkum

We need to light a fire under this.

BEN's entire iso for the lazy players:

In post 124, benhalkum wrote:5 pages in already and all I know is I kinda want pizza and/or ice cream now.

In post 500, benhalkum wrote:Am I the only one getting town vibes from Vax?

In other news, if petapan isn't scum in this game, I'll sign up for twerking lessons.

In post 573, Mod Pizza wrote:Not really...

which part is not accurate :3

I am glad you are trying to give peace a chance Mena

In post 582, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 580, Mod Pizza wrote:I normally treat skitter as locktown on D1 to (1) facilitate a healthy gamestate (2) to get that s y n e r g y going (3) because I don’t generally consider myself good enough to carch her D1 if she’s scum and is trying to fool me and (4) i find that by trying to collaborate with her I normally get a better sense of whether she’s trying to manipulate me or that gamestate, hence actually helping me read her more effectively

That sounds obsessive and unhealthy.

Tell me more about you bork read.

I always figured she would tell me to stop if it bothered her. Bork is just that I didn't get TvT vibes really from their thing with prism and prism comparatively seems townier.

In post 583, skitter30 wrote:

In post 575, Mod Pizza wrote:Because I felt like you were setting up to come at me from your very second post in the game and I also don’t think that’s something I’ve seen you ever do before.

Like in other words I’m not just gonna sit there and take it while you try to misflip me and also it kind of pissed me off that you came in going that I’m “maybe scum” and then “probably scum” without actually even talking to me at all or to try and see where I was coming from

In post 576, Mod Pizza wrote:VOTE: vax but I’m not saying that I townread you

I am willing to try and de-escalate if for no other reason than I think the game will be more enjoyable this way, as after last night I don’t particularly feel like playing

Ok a few things:
- that was like a really quick catchup post, and i just jotted down my impressions as i had them.
- I wasnt really planning or thinking of immediately pushing you, or like acting on it (in fact i'm p sure i said that i *didnt* want to go down that route just then at least once). In my mind, i wasnt really escalating by going from 'maybe scum' to 'probably scum', and to me, saying something like that in that sort of format is more an invitation to start a dialogue with you than anything else
- i was not trying to piss u off, sorry. I also got a little pissed off, and when i realized that may have been fueling my response i realized i should probably take a step back (and that it may have been fueling your response, sorry)

And i really wasnt trying to piss u off, sorry

okay, it felt like they were more serious than just impressions I guess (?) but maybe I was misreading that esp. given what you said about it not being a progression exactly, and I read it last night very much as setting up for an attack on me even if you weren't, doing it at the moment exactly? I think the fact that it was primarily comments on me and not questions made me feel less like you were looking to open a dialogue or talk about things

I realise you weren't, sorry if I was pissing you off to, I'm just also not in a generally great mood due to like irl things you know about, but also that I realised on Friday I have an assignment for uni due tonight at midnight not in a week's time and it's really fucked up my plans. also I ended up getting high yesterday when I went for a walk and then was too baked to do anything all evening so was really pissed off with myself and probably took it out a bit here on you (and maybe on pooky too tbh, sorry pooky, although you are still being weird and the fact you keep going on about pocketing feels somewhat antagonistic)

I think I was also bothered by your take that I/elements could be scum together, and wrote one of the slightly more inflammatory posts before you could clarify that you'd meant to add an AREN'T* scum together clarification, so sorry about that too

I was also just pissed off for accidentally outing myself when I wanted to have a really quiet game without the weight of expectations, y'know

In post 584, skitter30 wrote:

In post 582, DrippingGoofball wrote:That sounds obsessive and unhealthy

It's a little weird, yeah, but he's been doing it for a year+ now so at this point i kinda just assume that's what he's gonna do and when he doesnt it's, like, really unusual

I mean I can stop if you would rather I didn't/find it weird, I just find it a useful way to approach you?

In post 585, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: benhalkum

We need to light a fire under this.

I have some meta on ben that I wanna check but I wanna say him being a lurk sack isn't scum indicative particularly. Still, wouldn't mind policy-ing here if he doesn't step it up.

In post 568, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:TLDR:

1 Mena!town believes that skitter woke up saw town!vax as leading wagon and decided to Wk pocket him by leading a misyeet on Mena!town 2 who happens to worship the ground she walks on... on day1. So 3 Mena!town decides to vow to duel skitter!scum and with his dying breath reveal her for the villain she is 4 so she may never terrorize the innocent townsfolk again.

Is this accurate Mena?

(1) no, I was thinking skitter wakes up and decides to white knight a misguillotinable slot for cred because that's entirely something I can see scum doing if they come in. I also didn't think she came in planning to pocket /him/ bc quite frankly pockets aren't necessarily that useful when they're on low impact players (and vax is demonstrably low impact rn by virtue of being top wagon) -- I think it was to look good if he gets flipped anyway and to give her more ability to control the midgame, if she's scum. has the added benefit of being an early way to undermine me if I'm wrong, and I was also bothered by the suggestion that she was scumreading both me AND elements which was, I thought, a very strange take for her to have (me white knighting town!elements is a totally reasonable take, and I can see how she gets there)

(2) this is like... not true? I like and have a lot of respect for skitter, and we get on well, but your framing it this way is weird tbh

(3) I mean... not really? I have good reasons to think skitter would potentially force a guillotine today no the person she wants and she made a post talking about how she was going to "rip me to shreds" so I wouldn't say it's so simple as me "vowing to duel her" and that seems an active mischaracterisation of what happened

(4) this is just like... not at all what I said and is an attempt to make what I was saying look ridiculous. my point was that skitter is traditionally pretty good at reading town!me and is generally not intentionally trying to start a fight with me, whereas in this case she was (a) proposing I was scum and (b) looking to throw down (what I thought initially, now thinking I may have been wrong/partly culpable myself) -- and given that those two things are not features of her town game normally, and having played with her a lot, my point was that it should seriously undermine skitter's cred going on and be very scum indicative for her if she were to force my elimination on D1 after initiating that conflict

actually, VOTE: pooky

I mean I can sympathize with peta and not feeling like there's a good entry point back into the game but you gotta grin and bear it and wade on in even if it means faking it till you make it.

In post 589, Mod Pizza wrote:okay, it felt like they were more serious than just impressions I guess (?) but maybe I was misreading that esp. given what you said about it not being a progression exactly, and I read it last night very much as setting up for an attack on me even if you weren't, doing it at the moment exactly? I think the fact that it was primarily comments on me and not questions made me feel less like you were looking to open a dialogue or talk about things

I realise you weren't, sorry if I was pissing you off to, I'm just also not in a generally great mood due to like irl things you know about, but also that I realised on Friday I have an assignment for uni due tonight at midnight not in a week's time and it's really fucked up my plans. also I ended up getting high yesterday when I went for a walk and then was too baked to do anything all evening so was really pissed off with myself and probably took it out a bit here on you (and maybe on pooky too tbh, sorry pooky, although you are still being weird and the fact you keep going on about pocketing feels somewhat antagonistic)

I think I was also bothered by your take that I/elements could be scum together, and wrote one of the slightly more inflammatory posts before you could clarify that you'd meant to add an AREN'T* scum together clarification, so sorry about that too

I was also just pissed off for accidentally outing myself when I wanted to have a really quiet game without the weight of expectations, y'know

ok:
- i wasn't trying to be antagonistic, and you i guess read that i was being, and responded in kind, but then when i read what you responded, i felt like you were being antagonistic out of nowhere, so *i* responded in kind because i thought you were ramping up randomly and i didn't think i'd done anything to warrant that ... but i don't think either of us actually wanted to go down that route just then ...

- i hope things get better soon, that sounds kinda difficult :/ i hope things irl get smoothed out / taken care soon!

- yeah i really didn't think you/elements could be scum together, it was a typo, i was reading it more as tvs

- the 'ripping to shreds' bit is that i felt 532 was really antagonistic and misreppy and i wanted to take it apart. i wasn't necessarily talking about forcing like a vote on you, more that i didn't like what you wrote there and felt it was wrong and felt like i needed to say exactly what i disliked about it

- the day1 townread thing bothered me like a year ago, it doesn't really bother me anymore, but when you ddin't go down that route it just made me feel like 'uhhhhh something weird is going on ???' just cuz you always do that, and i haven't not seen you do that in literally i think a year

In post 591, Mod Pizza wrote:actually, VOTE: pooky

yesssssssss

mena is sooo cute i love it :3

In post 376, skitter30 wrote:- scumpings on ffery p2

Hello!

In post 591, Mod Pizza wrote:actually, VOTE: pooky

:goodvoting:

In post 596, fferyllt wrote:

In post 376, skitter30 wrote:- scumpings on ffery p2

Hello!

hello!

Why no followup?