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In post 492, Datisi wrote:page four:

+town on username and marashu. sucks that i'm in his slot, i guess.

explain the username read, at this point all he had was the ding ding post. and what do you mean by that last part?

In post 493, Datisi wrote:103 by klyne on titus is a point that speaks to me for some reason. i'll keep this post in mind.

this is interesting because this post stood out to both of us despite having opposite reads on titus/klyne. does it change how you read 46?

In post 510, Datisi wrote:@bulge, why did you vote oram in 361 and say you're better off there when that player just got announced to be getting replaced?

if we're gonna have fresh blood tied to a stake overtop 3 votes, may as well throw another on the pile, no?

In post 518, PlusJOYED wrote:dasiti seems townie imo
null on the other replacement

what about datisi seems townie? is it tone, do you like his catchup commentary, agree with his reads, ...?

In post 527, Datisi wrote:VOTE: plusjoyed

was it just the vc that prompted this vote or was it something else?

In post 532, Klyne wrote:You and The Bulge remain relatively null but I'd give you slight favor because I have slight ping on some shit

slight favour over me you mean? are you implying an associative or anti-associative here or is there another reason you're assessing our slots together?

In post 533, iamausername wrote:

In post 525, Umlaut wrote:

Titus

(5): Klyne, MURDERCAT, clidd, VP Baltar, The Bulge

i'm realising now why i have felt no desire to join the Titus wagon despite not townreading her at all. i'm feeling some level of bad vibes from every one of these people.

now that i've figured that out, i actually feel a little less reluctance to join - could well be that Titus is scum from one faction with the other faction driving her wagon.

I don't follow your logic here, and I don't think it's just because I entirely disagree with the vibes you get from this wagon comp. why does that make you less reluctant to join? what makes you think it is a wagon driven by a single scumfaction?

In post 542, iamausername wrote: in other news, isn't it fun how i have incited VP Baltar to both argue vociferously that he did not have an agenda in his catchup post and argue vociferously that he did have an agenda, and that having an agenda is pro-town, actually

I'm not seeing this at all?

In post 550, Titus wrote:

In post 452, VP Baltar wrote:Like, the problem with clidd is that he reads based upon personality rather than play in the game. It reads genuine and towny, but not really a good way to find scum.

Then why are you following him?

this isn't a fair assessment of baltar's push. he's clearly providing his own reasoning with receipts and not just sheeping clidd's observations.

In post 553, Titus wrote:

In post 465, The Bulge wrote:

In post 267, Titus wrote:

In post 254, Titus wrote:

In post 248, Titus wrote:

In post 247, PlusJOYED wrote:im down to vote just about anyone
tbh without claims and multiball im down to kill just about anyone so we can start getting some actual info. Don't wanna kill jackson, murder, klyne or iamusername I tr them.

You do realize how contradictory this is right?

Third time I am asking

PlusJOYED

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This is also a really really weird non-contradiction to latch onto so aggressively. someone said something about titus struggling to produce content as scum yes?

It is flat out a contradiction.

The game as a whole is struggling to create content. The biggest push against me is the fact people disagree with my content.

ok but are you looking at the intent of the post? do you seriously think you've caught something there? how were you wanting/expecting plus to answer to that callout?

In post 554, Titus wrote:

In post 485, clidd wrote:

@username

No, I've been suspicious of Titus for some time and I'm tired of the static game state. Let's see if the wagon resumption causes any productive friction.

I asking for his case about Titus after voting to understand his motivation inside the wagon, considering that I have no other slot at the moment that I feel as strange as Titus and that I really intend to vote.

By extension, I found Klyne's sporadicity in the last few posts kind of not something that I would expect from scum.

That static gamestate is because of scum not wanting to push opposing scum or do anything really. I am making moves and scumhunting, but still wagoned. There's no discussion elsewhere because half the game doesn't want it. There's no incentive to push elsewhere if a wagon that's not on their team develops. When both scum find it, why would they bother? Doubly so when I am not around to defend myself.

you seem to be implying that both teams are on your wagon, something you also said about the last wagon on you. do you have similar reasons to believe that in both cases? the wagon comp and context are completely different. are there specific reasons for you to believe that both wagons on you were driven by two scumteams, or is that an independent observation youre making, and if so, based on what?

In post 578, The Bulge wrote:

In post 532, Klyne wrote:You and The Bulge remain relatively null but I'd give you slight favor because I have slight ping on some shit

slight favour over me you mean? are you implying an associative or anti-associative here or is there another reason you're assessing our slots together?

Slight pings on you, not enough in my mind to toil over yet

In post 578, The Bulge wrote:is there another reason you're assessing our slots together?

also what about ORAM vs jackson? did our two replacements begin on even ground?

In post 580, The Bulge wrote:you seem to be implying that both teams are on your wagon, something you also said about the last wagon on you. do you have similar reasons to believe that in both cases? the wagon comp and context are completely different.

The wagon comp is similar, right? Different players in the slots, but many of the same slots.

Context is different for sure. iirc, the first wagon was mostly based on Titus' position on the Taly wagon.


Anyhow, I'd be very excited to see dueling Titus and PlusJoyed wagons today.

Now I see why this game stalled. Hellloooooooo

Hum.

In post 575, The Bulge wrote:

In post 492, Datisi wrote:page four:

+town on username and marashu. sucks that i'm in his slot, i guess.

explain the username read, at this point all he had was the ding ding post. and what do you mean by that last part?

In post 493, Datisi wrote:103 by klyne on titus is a point that speaks to me for some reason. i'll keep this post in mind.

this is interesting because this post stood out to both of us despite having opposite reads on titus/klyne. does it change how you read 46?

In post 510, Datisi wrote:@bulge, why did you vote oram in 361 and say you're better off there when that player just got announced to be getting replaced?

if we're gonna have fresh blood tied to a stake overtop 3 votes, may as well throw another on the pile, no?

I just think Titus is scum here, my opinion hasn't changed even after reading her last post sequence.

Random quote ^

Datisi is a townlean. The way he expressed some opinions did not make such an impression on me, but considering my intuitive feeling about the predecessor of his slot, I believe he has an optimistic potential to be town. There is also the fact that Datisi is a good addition to the game in the medium / long term, so he should reveal his alignment eventually.

Plusjoyed stills null, his pov doesn't make much sense to me besides some context of meta, but I don't really find reasons to suspect him over Titus.

Scum can't handle being called scum so they bury their head in the sand instead

Username has improved in recent posts, but nothing that characterizes a TL. The hesitancy to enter Titus' wagon and the way he visualized the players voting seemed to come from a personal conviction of reads (towny), but at the same time, it didn't seem so remarkable that it couldn't be emulated. In other words, null.

This has known by three whole instances where I gave Titus absolute opportunity and she merely flaked

Yet I'm the one picking up votes because I'm full of hot air

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Klyne is.. Klyne? hardest slot to read, but something about his WIM and crazy behavior tells me that it would be stressful to emulate something like that as scum.

Deasvail has an 'ok' pov, I can follow most of what he's thinking. But, like I said in others reads, I didn't feel anything strong enough to have him above null. Taly fits the same description, but his post template is a little bit more visually tiring to follow and his personality is difficult to assess in isolation as an AI element, as he appears to be an extrovert person (and I have a hard time evaluating this without bias).

MC and VP are TRs, Bulge weak TL by now.

Cliff, what criteria are you looking for to find scum? I'm starting to get paranoid that scum can actually scum hunt here, making it more difficult.

That's all.

I'm looking for an eli on Titus, so we can finally have info with a flip.

edit: I don' have a criteria, I'm using my emotional and behavioral perception to infer reads. Only logically consistent is not enough, in my opinion.

Scum can scumhunt, but bias and cognitive load will always be a thing for them.

In post 575, The Bulge wrote:

In post 492, Datisi wrote:page four:

+town on username and marashu. sucks that i'm in his slot, i guess.

explain the username read, at this point all he had was the ding ding post. and what do you mean by that last part?

In post 493, Datisi wrote:103 by klyne on titus is a point that speaks to me for some reason. i'll keep this post in mind.

this is interesting because this post stood out to both of us despite having opposite reads on titus/klyne. does it change how you read 46?

In post 510, Datisi wrote:@bulge, why did you vote oram in 361 and say you're better off there when that player just got announced to be getting replaced?

if we're gonna have fresh blood tied to a stake overtop 3 votes, may as well throw another on the pile, no?

(1) it was a ~mindmeld~ sorta read. at that point i was townreading klick and scumreading klyne. and it was meant as a cheeky "damn, marashu is so obviously town here, sucks that i already know his aligment!"
(2) surprisingly, no.
(3) zzz, my question was meant in a more mafia-theory sense of "that vote isn't being used to sort anybody so why make it", but yeah okay fine.

In post 577, The Bulge wrote:

In post 527, Datisi wrote:VOTE: plusjoyed

was it just the vc that prompted this vote or was it something else?

it was both plusjoyed's bad posting the page earlier + my earlier scumread of him + the vc whch showed i was voting a slot i was townreading.