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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:27 am
by humaneatingmonkey
I would like to point out that Boxxy didn't even know or explain what the role mechanic of the Detective was. He went straight to AtE. Seanzie had to "Um, Actually" the whole thing by defining Detective himself, thinking I was born yesterday. This is the most bullshit claim I've ever heard.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:29 am
by Almost50
What changed your mind in 30 minutes and without him posting in between?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:29 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Boxxy, instead of using his claim as an opportunity to reassert himself as town, just went straight to AtE at E-2 with no threat of elimination (I have been vocal about not eliminating anyone before everyone has chipped in). If that's not scum caving to pressure, I don't know what is.
Cyrus defense of Boxxy that "He couldn't lie just like that!" is absolutely horrendous as well.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:31 am
by nomnomnom
As I said, roaming detective is a role that sounds good on paper but is extremely underpowered in practice and scums can perfectly claim that role and wifom the entire game, so I don't know why people are acting like he just claimed cop
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:35 am
by Almost50
Again, I do not agree with this take AT ALL, but T3 might be town for going against the flow in his first post.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:36 am
by Almost50
In post 149, boxxy wrote:My scumreads:
cyrus92
monkee
Townreads:
seanzie
Rest are null
This is a TOWNIE readlist.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:37 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Add to that, Boxxy still has no viable answer against the hastiness of my townlean, the incongruency of his scumhunting, and his LAMIST posturing.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:46 am
by Almost50
Thank you
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:47 am
by Almost50
Why is boxxy scum to you?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:49 am
by Almost50
Monkey farts smell like bananas!
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:52 am
by Salsabil Faria
Your disappearance while you're on the verge of elimination point towards scum!you are lurking with the hope of wagon vanishing by using AtE
In post 428, boxxy wrote:When I flip town roaming detective I hope you reflect on how your trash play cost us the game.
In post 426, boxxy wrote:Roaming means I can only target a player once for the entire game.
Basically you're a 1-shot detective. What pinged me here is I never saw the use of
roaming
word instead of
1-shot
here before for any role.
Those who have experience here, is
roaming
is commonly used for any role, especially in a normal setup?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:54 am
by Almost50
In post 214, nomnomnom wrote:It's something much more subtle and I'm fairly sure cyrus isn't even aware of it either.
Of he's not aware of it I wouldn't recommend you publicizing it. Otherwise this might be the last time you'd be able to use it on him
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:56 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 418, Seanzie wrote: In post 417, Seanzie wrote:
Give me a second to look to see if I agree with your assessment of your own posts.
Okay, yes #222 was before you actually started posting game-related content. I agree that him switching to a townread there is bad.
But not scummy enough to you? See my
256.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:58 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 344, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:While I am confident most of this wagon is comprised of town I feel strongly that at least one of Cyrus and Salsa are scum
Fot the argument's sake, assuming
cyrus62
is the town between us, how it makes me scum to you?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:00 am
by Almost50
In post 236, Dwlee99 wrote:I think that Cyrus not knowing we weren't in a newbie with 9 players (hence that whole "I'm at e-1!!" drama) is a town slip? Unless it was ultra planned to give off that impression, but he doesn't strike me as that kind of player at all.
Also, he was only @3 votes, so not even in a 9-players setup would he have been @E-1
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:02 am
by Almost50
In post 239, boxxy wrote:Thus securing a mis-elim that you don't get blamed for.
In my -admittedly limited- experience with nom, he gets blamed for EVERYTHING that goes in the game (even mod mistakes)
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:02 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 398, Seanzie wrote: In post 392, boxxy wrote:monkey you're tunneled bro. You argument continues to be "why did he one person when he also said somebody else could be scummy." From now on I'll try to talk about only one thing at a time so you don't get confused okay?
FTR, you are definitely not out of the ballpark with me, even if I have shut down some bad casing of you. Monkey's case had issues, but that doesn't clear you.
Tell me about your early Monkey read. Why did you switch from "Monkey scum" to "Monkey is a policy elim" the way you did.
I also don't think
Seanzie
and
boxxy
are scum together.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:04 am
by Dwlee99
Hello monkey1. Do you think Cyrus is evil? I feel pretty good about catching the townslip and I'd like to hear your thoughts if you disagree. 3 is still not E-1 in a newbie but the explanation of "oh I thought I was in a newbie" is the slip.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:05 am
by Salsabil Faria
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:08 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 561, Almost50 wrote:
If you need help.. just ask (provided it's not about Maths, Physics, Chemistry. Biology, Art, Literature, Astronomy, Music, History, Geography, or any other subject really)
Will I pass?
In post 563, Almost50 wrote:
I still think it's you (my top TR) but I have a suspicious mind of some players whom I've played with before (i.e. I "should" be Town leaning Salsa & DWlee, but I'm not going to let my first impression affect my final decision)
NOPE! You
shouldn't
townlean me.... it'll make the
death-tunnel
war between us B O O R I N G!!
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:08 am
by Almost50
In post 247, Dwlee99 wrote:
This is a super weird take? I've liked boxxy's posting a lot. I'm still trying to figure out nom though. I don't know if nom withholding the tell is inherently scummy but I'd really like to hear it if it's going to be justifying a scum read this early especially when it feels like cyrus town-slipped.
Let me give you a hypothetical example of what this could be:
Let's say I noticed you start your TOWN games with "Hello" but you start your Scum games with "Hi". Now if I use this tell in you without revealing it I always have an edge over you. However, if I do tell about it no one's going to take me seriously, AND you will be more careful next time because you now know what I'm looking for.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:10 am
by Salsabil Faria
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:12 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 589, Almost50 wrote: In post 236, Dwlee99 wrote:I think that Cyrus not knowing we weren't in a newbie with 9 players (hence that whole "I'm at e-1!!" drama) is a town slip? Unless it was ultra planned to give off that impression, but he doesn't strike me as that kind of player at all.
Also, he was only @3 votes, so not even in a 9-players setup would he have been @E-1
So you're scumreading him or not?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:13 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 592, Dwlee99 wrote:Hello monkey1. Do you think Cyrus is evil? I feel pretty good about catching the townslip and I'd like to hear your thoughts if you disagree. 3 is still not E-1 in a newbie but the explanation of "oh I thought I was in a newbie" is the slip.
Is this addressed to me? Cyrus can still be scum who forgot about how many players it needs to elim him, but the pressure of being possibly in E-1 gave him a panic. The amount of players it needs to eliminate you is shared information by scum and town, not just town. You can make this mistake as town, and you can still make this mistake as scum.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:15 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 592, Dwlee99 wrote:Hello monkey1. Do you think Cyrus is evil? I feel pretty good about catching the townslip and I'd like to hear your thoughts if you disagree. 3 is still not E-1 in a newbie but the explanation of "oh I thought I was in a newbie" is the slip.
I don't remember if he said that he thought it was a newbie game. Iirr, he said he got used to with newbie games where 5 votes lead to elimination, so he kept thinking it was E-1/E-2 for him which should be considered as NAI fmpov.