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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:59 am
by Save The Dragons
In post 572, Roden wrote:STD do you honestly believe my scum grand plan was to give half assed reads then fuck around with you after you give a really uninteresting scum case on me
this ignores what i said because it's truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:06 am
by Cephrir
In post 573, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Like. Can you explain why's Roden scum and not bad town here LOL
i feel like he did

do you need to dunk on every idea anyone presents

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:12 am
by Bell
This is easily the towniest STD has ever been.
Thus, he must be scum or something.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:13 am
by Roden
In post 574, Save The Dragons wrote:i know roden's good at scum and he's good at the game, he's not going to be bad town
I'm not bad town but Day 1 has historically been hell for me, even when I'm IC. I'm also unfamiliar with the theme and have no idea what the setup is supposed to be, so I really don't think I'll be useful until after stuff happens and less people are around to keep track of. Or if I get shit pushed too I guess.

On the plus side I think the "anger = town" meta has finally started dying down so that's been nice.
In post 575, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 572, Roden wrote:STD do you honestly believe my scum grand plan was to give half assed reads then fuck around with you after you give a really uninteresting scum case on me
this ignores what i said because it's truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue
Even if it were true, you're saying you'd scum read me if I stayed the course and still scum read me if I walked it back. That's a pretty dishonest way to try to read me and I'm not sure what you expect me to do here. Just make it clear and say you're tunneling me.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:14 am
by Save The Dragons
i can tunnel scum

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:15 am
by MUSHSHAGANA
In post 576, Cephrir wrote:
In post 573, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Like. Can you explain why's Roden scum and not bad town here LOL
i feel like he did

do you need to dunk on every idea anyone presents
Don't think I'm doing that but sure ok loooooool

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:16 am
by Bell
I've noticed my vote hasn't moved from Cephrir and I'm kind of okay with this.
I dunno, he still seems kind of blah to me. Maybe I'm just blind though and this is how he sorts.

Tet is either Notty/the self banner unwnd.
Or I'm wrong. I'm always wrong. But. While I really wanna give Tet his town card, I'm going to be a little bit careful. Even though he feels fine to me. But yeah, town read. Here you go.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:16 am
by Save The Dragons
you're still ignoring the fact you walked back your statement. had you explained it rationally why you thought LLD and Greeting were connected i would have probably backed down because you would have answered my question. instead you're flailing by saying things like "uninteresting case"

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:19 am
by Cephrir
In post 578, Roden wrote:Even if it were true, you're saying you'd scum read me if I stayed the course and still scum read me if I walked it back. That's a pretty dishonest way to try to read me
what's dishonest about that? if someone thinks you've performed a scummy action are they obligated to let you go if you hit the right note?

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:19 am
by Cephrir
VOTE: Roden

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:21 am
by MUSHSHAGANA
Weird how you feel the same way I do on Tet Bell... like "yeah this smells town but I don't trust it" wtf???? is that abt do you think

(I'll weigh in on the Roden thing again when ready don't ask me abt it rn we're watchin tho)

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:23 am
by Cephrir
@bell i believe we've reached the point where, in the parlance, i'm supposed to call you a towel, yes?

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:12 pm
by Tet
In post 577, Bell wrote:This is easily the towniest STD has ever been.
Thus, he must be scum or something.
Lol Jesus you're reading my mind.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:16 pm
by Roden
In post 579, Save The Dragons wrote:i can tunnel scum
I'd appreciate it if you actually did.
In post 582, Save The Dragons wrote:you're still ignoring the fact you walked back your statement. had you explained it rationally why you thought LLD and Greeting were connected i would have probably backed down because you would have answered my question. instead you're flailing by saying things like "uninteresting case"
Do you not see the dissonance in saying I'm a good scum player but then also saying I'm flailing scum that got caught after getting asked a single question?

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:16 pm
by The Three Bears
In post 587, Tet wrote:
In post 577, Bell wrote:This is easily the towniest STD has ever been.
Thus, he must be scum or something.
Lol Jesus you're reading my mind.
I like Bell for town, or if long shot scum with Tet.

~Mama

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:20 pm
by Save The Dragons
In post 522, Roden wrote:Additionally, I don't think Greeting and LLD are aligned, and since I town read LLD I have to give Greeting the boot.
if x, then y
In post 566, Roden wrote:I don't think LLD and Greeting are aligned because I town read one and scum read the other.
x and y

that's a change of what you said

people can judge for themselves

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:26 pm
by Roden
In post 583, Cephrir wrote:
In post 578, Roden wrote:Even if it were true, you're saying you'd scum read me if I stayed the course and still scum read me if I walked it back. That's a pretty dishonest way to try to read me
what's dishonest about that? if someone thinks you've performed a scummy action are they obligated to let you go if you hit the right note?
That isn't what I said. Scum reading someone no matter what they say or do, and explicitly making it clear that that's what you're doing, isn't a real attempt at reading somebody.
In post 584, Cephrir wrote:VOTE: Roden
I'd appreciate it if you stopped trying to make yourself mis-elim bait.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:28 pm
by Roden
In post 590, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 522, Roden wrote:Additionally, I don't think Greeting and LLD are aligned, and since I town read LLD I have to give Greeting the boot.
if x, then y
In post 566, Roden wrote:I don't think LLD and Greeting are aligned because I town read one and scum read the other.
x and y

that's a change of what you said

people can judge for themselves
You...realize that you've just made it very clear that the contents of what I said never changed, right?

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:30 pm
by Save The Dragons
If I shout it louder will it get through your thick skull

IF X, THEN Y vs JUST X AND Y

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:31 pm
by Tet
In post 592, Roden wrote:
In post 590, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 522, Roden wrote:Additionally, I don't think Greeting and LLD are aligned, and since I town read LLD I have to give Greeting the boot.
if x, then y
In post 566, Roden wrote:I don't think LLD and Greeting are aligned because I town read one and scum read the other.
x and y

that's a change of what you said

people can judge for themselves
You...realize that you've just made it very clear that the contents of what I said never changed, right?
the context around the reads changed not the reads themselves. which is what std is arguing.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:32 pm
by Tet
one of lld/greeting is scum is not the same as I townread lld and scumread greeting.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:35 pm
by Cephrir
In post 591, Roden wrote:I'd appreciate it if you stopped trying to make yourself mis-elim bait.
ooh, threats!! my unvote is on its way now for sure!!

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:37 pm
by Cephrir
In post 591, Roden wrote:
In post 583, Cephrir wrote:
In post 578, Roden wrote:Even if it were true, you're saying you'd scum read me if I stayed the course and still scum read me if I walked it back. That's a pretty dishonest way to try to read me
what's dishonest about that? if someone thinks you've performed a scummy action are they obligated to let you go if you hit the right note?
That isn't what I said. Scum reading someone no matter what they say or do, and explicitly making it clear that that's what you're doing, isn't a real attempt at reading somebody.
"Scumreading you whether you walk back what you said or not"
"Scumreading you no matter what you say or do"

these aren't the same. you seem to have an issue with revisionism, friend!

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:47 pm
by Roden
In post 593, Save The Dragons wrote:If I shout it louder will it get through your thick skull

IF X, THEN Y vs JUST X AND Y
Hmmm...this feels genuine. Yeah you're probably town then.
In post 596, Cephrir wrote:
In post 591, Roden wrote:I'd appreciate it if you stopped trying to make yourself mis-elim bait.
ooh, threats!! my unvote is on its way now for sure!!
In post 597, Cephrir wrote:
In post 591, Roden wrote:
In post 583, Cephrir wrote:
In post 578, Roden wrote:Even if it were true, you're saying you'd scum read me if I stayed the course and still scum read me if I walked it back. That's a pretty dishonest way to try to read me
what's dishonest about that? if someone thinks you've performed a scummy action are they obligated to let you go if you hit the right note?
That isn't what I said. Scum reading someone no matter what they say or do, and explicitly making it clear that that's what you're doing, isn't a real attempt at reading somebody.
"Scumreading you whether you walk back what you said or not"
"Scumreading you no matter what you say or do"

these aren't the same. you seem to have an issue with revisionism, friend!
You really like making your life difficult for no reason, huh?

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:53 pm
by Roden
I always find it funny when previous scum buddies see my playstyle and thought process in detail, then see me act the complete opposite in another game and accuse me of being scum lol.

By funny I mean tiring.