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Re:Nora's read on Dunn.


I have thoughts but they feel convoluted.

I am not consciously scum reading Dunn, but I am definitely not town reading him either.

I am not as confident in my ability to read Dunn as Nora is, but I do feel like there is a difference between this game and one where i was ready to hard defend him like in say Web of Lies or Shakespeare.

I kind of like the fact that Noraa is picking up a difference there as well, since web of lies we were both ready to go to bat for Dunn, and this neither of us are town reading him this game.

It is making me rethink my Noraa scum read. Which is annoying because I don't have enough of them as it is :/

this is a more convincing dunn case than i expected from the first few posts about it

All I have to add to it for context is that dunnstral(not sure if they add for or against it)

Is that the last(and only) time I ran into Dunn scum they asked some very inane questions and made some very inane points. Which they did here until transitioning out of it for the most part. I also know that Dunn has joined a lot of dance games so I expect higher levels of investment for him as either alignment. Because he revealed the secret that the more interested he is in a game the more he posts in it.
And I guess because he keeps joining dance games he likes them very much.

Phone post. Woo.

someone once told me dunnstral powers up in dance games

In post 575, Lukewarm wrote:I am not as confident in my ability to read Dunn as Nora is

I am actually at a peak low in confidence right now in general. but i just ugh i dont know. like im being tunneled and it's affecting my read on the game in general. and dunn is one of the few people i feel like i can read and theres just a lot of internal paranoia because of the game state and trying to read dunn.

i have a lot of worries about this read because i struggle with my own thought process a lot of the times. like what's going through my head, i kid you not, is like
dunn has to be scum
what if im pushing dunn because i want to live another day
what if dunn isnt scum and then i die tomorrow because i mislimmed them
no no dunn has to be scum
but dunn could maybe say that as town
what if dunn's meta completely changed
what if im being overconfident
no no dunn is scum
oh wait i could maybe see town dunn saying that
oh my god people are agreeeing with me, so im wrong right
wait but thats not a good metric
agh maybe im overconfident
no dunn is scum

like i feel like i've been dealing with the pressure ok but also my reads are entirely falling apart and breaking so i dont knwo what im doing at this point.

My hero solve for day 1 is Prism, Dunn, then one of Myko/enchant.

Not taking questions [just for posterity] thanks!

im inclined to townerad lukewarm because of lukewarms TR on me that they have no reason to give me at all if scum.

one thing i was thinking about is if scum dunn would have tried to pair up sooner, knowing that noraa was going to try to read him soon

but maybe rushing into a partnership wouldn't match up enough with his slow and careful playstyle

this is the best i've ever explained my read on dunn but everyone agreeing still freaks me out. if everyone does end up agreeing, it means the read is wrong. just saying.

I disagree

i am also! going to disagree

mostly the reason being that the dunn i know, both town and scum, doesn't really do Much in games and writes much more to-the-point posts

but! if this "energy" is due to this being a dance game, that would make sense why his style is altered and it just doesn't feel ai to me

i'm not satisfied with this and i'm noticing a lot of my reads are ??? right now so i might do some isos after i'm back from my walk, i'll see

My suggestions were made by looking at the set of 3 gents/3 ladies with Noraa left out. I spitballed who might like the style or PT of the other. There were no alignment judgments involved beyond leaving Noraa out.

I've also been very thrown by Dunn's openness and think 563 was a fine post.

Doesn't really move the needle on either for me. I wasn't townreading Dunn, and really am not townreading anyone beyond Andante. Noraa has to either distance or convince us to leave someone else out.

the more convincing part to me was the thing about how he's kinda softening his stances in places

but i wanna go read some to see if that is something he is more likely to do as scum or not. disregarding meta entirely, though, i think it is just on the face of it a somewhat scummier thing to do for most people

you know i really want to say dunn is town simply because prism agrees but that is probably not a good idea.

I think that Dunn should be left behind



I don't currently trust Prism, which leaves me disinclined to let her do the sorting of the pairs.

Thinking selfishly, I think pairing with Dats knowing that I am his top scum read just kills me day 2, and I think proposing to fire results in fire getting hammer between me and Cephrir, and I am left behind today. So, survival thinking says Mala is my best bet.

Very reasonable last sentence. I don't know what anyone's reads are for the most part, weren't a factor in my suggestions.

i think someone is lying here

have a big ol feeling at least one mafia is doing the “i will be frank about not knowing what to say or think or do and i want to survive.”

I have some thoughts on some of the recent postings that I think I should sit on until I'm in a pt or facing being left behind.

that is probably what i would do if I were a scum gent so i can buy that

In post 595, Ydrasse wrote:have a big ol feeling at least one mafia is doing the “i will be frank about not knowing what to say or think or do and i want to survive.”

This feels like an exact summary of Lukewarm, but who are the other people you are referencing here?

I can see thus applying to Nora?

i think myko had some similar vibes to that even if it isn't exactly the same