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In post 562, Irrelephant11 wrote:My wife sprained her ankle today so I'll be taking care of the kids more this week so I'll be posting less, @everyone

oh no i hope she's OK!!!

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also i'm kinda liking fire more now idk
i'm worried i'm townreading someone i shouldn't be

In post 572, fireisredsir wrote:and speaking of prism/last game

also nice now I'm getting scumread for how good prism is at being scum, cool,

In post 575, skitter30 wrote:also i'm kinda liking fire more now idk
i'm worried i'm townreading someone i shouldn't be

this is where I'm at

In post 573, Irrelephant11 wrote:Well lucky you I'm voting for a coalition I'm not in.

For you to continue scumreading me, I think you have to assume my partner is also widely coalition'd? I guess you would probably argue it's dragons

yea either that or you don't actually expect to be left out of the coalition despite your stated willingness to be

In post 576, Irrelephant11 wrote:

In post 572, fireisredsir wrote:and speaking of prism/last game

also nice now I'm getting scumread for how good prism is at being scum, cool,

don't worry that was just a joke for the other people who were in that game

In post 579, fireisredsir wrote:don't worry that was just a joke for the other people who were in that game

^

fire no matter your alignment i love your sense of humor

In post 575, skitter30 wrote:i'm worried i'm townreading someone i shouldn't be

its probably std imo

what did you think of my post about him

Fires town
Skiitttttterer is prob town

I’ll be alive maybe tmrw night n go in depth

I had to focus all my time on an EOL and now I’m shotttyshottt

In post 578, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 573, Irrelephant11 wrote:Well lucky you I'm voting for a coalition I'm not in.

For you to continue scumreading me, I think you have to assume my partner is also widely coalition'd? I guess you would probably argue it's dragons

yea either that or you don't actually expect to be left out of the coalition despite your stated willingness to be

I kinda wish I was playing the scumgame you think I am. Talking more than almost anyone, manipulating everyone's read and the entire gamestate to my liking, leaving BOTH my scum partner and myself out of the coalition just KNOWING it'll get me so widely townread I end up in the coalition even though one player is tunneling me

In post 565, fireisredsir wrote:as scum he has fine read progressions and etc and still can joke around and whatnot but he lacks that town energy.

he seems content to be a background character and pop up occasionally with a Good Post,

and yet not really drive things. when i read posts that he

makes as scum i picture him making a face and being like "ugh do i have to do this

".

i can understand this read/this approach to reading him, except this game i feel exactly the bolded and don't feel the italics

In post 574, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 571, Irrelephant11 wrote:I'm very much intentionally channeling players like RC, Shoshin, the worst... players whose play I think is really good at rooting out scum, but who also got/get scumread all the time for it because it's not easy to follow.

maybe our lovely quackup mod has changed since you were last around, but i don't think i have ever even considered scumreading a post of his. the one time i did i felt immediately guilty for it. they are too pure

oh he only ends up in extremes. Everyone loves and townreads him all game long, regardless of his alignment, or everyone thinks he's too towny and quirky!! and must be scum!!! (something I relate to)

I think players felt this way about him in multiple recent micros I read, actually. But I digress

mb fire's just right i dunno now :<

i'll be happy to sheep whatever you decide to skitter <3

brain feel mushy

also would prefer we get a decision in b4 we get 3 days on the clock.

In post 583, Irrelephant11 wrote:eaving BOTH my scum partner and myself out of the coalition just KNOWING it'll get me so widely townread I end up in the coalition even though one player is tunneling me

tbf i don't think this is crazy - even if you leave yourself out of it now:
- there's enuf people townreading u that u might get it anyways
- approaching deadline you could very easily be like 'uuuuuhhhhh we need a coalition and a lot of people are healing me so i'll add myself'

it's not like you have no chance of getting in it

pedit my brain is mushy too >.>
i think rn i'm healing me/irrel/mena std and am thinking abt adding dats
is there anyone who should be there that isn't / do you strongly oppose to any of these?

In post 583, Irrelephant11 wrote:I kinda wish I was playing the scumgame you think I am. Talking more than almost anyone, manipulating everyone's read and the entire gamestate to my liking, leaving BOTH my scum partner and myself out of the coalition just KNOWING it'll get me so widely townread I end up in the coalition even though one player is tunneling me

i know this is slightly tongue in cheek but i don't think you really would have had much choice in the matter, you were solidly in the coalition and if you like doubled down on that and were like "no im not leaving" i think it would just make you look worse

and you probably, in this hypothetical world, would have expected that the townreads people have on you and scumreads people have on me would have meant that my tunnel would have largely been disregarded

In post 587, skitter30 wrote:is there anyone who should be there that isn't / do you strongly oppose to any of these?

I don't have any objections to that.

I think you probably have a better read on mena than I do.

ari i would like your thoughts on std if you have them

you said earlier you thought he was taking more of a leadership role this game, both me and skitter disagree with that. do you still feel that way?

maybe. it's been a while and he's fooled me a few times
but i'm getting Good Vibes rn at least

and i think i townerad him more than i townread a lot of other people here

man this deadline is kinda short

i'd ideally probably want some more time to ruminate but given that we're running low on time given everything we need to do i'm leaning towards me/dats/irrel/std/mena
idk who i'd even go after if that fails tho

pedit @ari

I never thought I would feel like the RadiantCowbells of a game

"You could do literally anything and would just win as scum, probably" -skitter and fire and sorta datisi earlier, to me

In post 591, skitter30 wrote:me/dats/irrel/std/mena

why not aristeia? Over datisi or me or std, who depending on who you ask are the least towny in your list

no? i mean i have a lot of respect for your scumgame but that's also not what i said

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wrt ari: i'm feeling very wary of her, both for the early game + generally her scumgame is scary + i haven't seen anything that i think is out of her range / makes me strongly think town
and i'm probably going to get to a faster/more comfortable townread on dats than ari in this timeframe

(sorry ari <3)

it's ok

In post 590, fireisredsir wrote:ari i would like your thoughts on std if you have them

you said earlier you thought he was taking more of a leadership role this game, both me and skitter disagree with that. do you still feel that way?

well earlier he was doing more and now he's doing not as much but that doesn't like really change how I felt about him earlier?

I dun see why scum!him would heal you in response to me expressing suspicion of you on p1 and then try to get me to include you in a coalition it just feels counterintuitive to me.

In post 594, skitter30 wrote:but that's also not what i said

I know it's not what you said but I'm getting really frustrated. Every time I do something I think is helpful to town someone is scumreading me for it! And then I say "no that's not scummy, it's towny" and I get scumread by fire for arguing that I'm towny. And then I think "okay well as someone who's aware I have a wide scumrange I'll try to find a coalition that doesn't include me. Some townie has to sit out, why not me" and then you and fire argue that that's just as likely to be a thing scum-me does as town-me

I get that some people are townreading me so maybe I'm just out of practice at shrugging off bad scumreads but I'm getting increasingly annoyed, especially because I'm not even sure fire is scum who's doing it
In fact with how few people are listening to him I'm pretty sure he's not scum, he's gaining like, nothing from this right now
well I guess it's getting me and skitter to townread him but I don't see how he could have foreseen that

on reflection, i could probably add ari on the condition that if she doesn't like literally solve the game and is alive in elo she gets flipped
(again sorry <3 i have to cover my bases!)