Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:39 pm
In post 565, Nero Cain wrote:gonna vote with my gut for now and see how I feel once I read the rest of the game.
VOTE: Ausuka
In post 565, Nero Cain wrote:gonna vote with my gut for now and see how I feel once I read the rest of the game.
VOTE: Ausuka
Why do you think so?In post 572, Eiralox wrote:hoppip seems more town
Your read? I agreeIn post 577, Nero Cain wrote:tis a little lacking, yes.
Sorry your read sucksIn post 582, Nero Cain wrote:579 just seemed a bit defensive and aggressive. It's possible that I'm misreading your tone but someone being misread and their response isyour read is lackingjust seems kinda odd to me.
What are your thoughts on my or anyone else's content since your last post?
Waking up today, I think it is a bit of a stretch read but there is definitely a world in which it’s a slip.In post 98, Ausuka wrote:Do you think scum would admit guilt so openly?In post 89, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:Does anyone else believe this's a stretch read?But you were trying to look town? I consider this as admission for guilt.eh do not think i was trying particularly hard there to look town
I would hesitate to say that fighting at the start of the game is something only town do, that’s a generalized tell that doesn’t account for an individual player’s playstyle.In post 99, Frogsterking wrote:I have never played with Inutile. I believe Inutile is Town because of their fight with Asuka. Scum are rarely going to square off like that at the beginning of the game.In post 85, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:Please do elaborate on your Inutile townread. Are you like super familiar playing with them? I couldn't even comprehend what they were trying to say, not to mention trying to read them - best I could come up with was they were flabbergasted from wolf stress. That is, until their "I wasn't trying to look town that much" which I think has a chance of being a slip.
idk i liked their recent tone but not their content? like they are very defensive and are tunneling way into me while sorta skirting past u ...... but meh the towniest hoppip has sounded to me was in recent posts/ like i have no solid reason to read them one way or another, that was just the vibe I got....... eh.
Yeah I have like 6 scum reads and my reasons for voting you look like confbias, so I'm guessing you were one of the slots I was wrong about.In post 568, hutmeil wrote:^This. After you've put pressure on me, Frog followed suit with unconvincing reasons just to put a vote on me. Trying to test the water perhaps if anyone else will follow suit?
This is just bad surface-level observation. Hoppip’s post is just parroting a common mafia philosophy and applying it to the current situation.In post 122, furtiveglance wrote:TownIn post 82, hoppip wrote:Hmm...I suppose that's fair. But I'm not so sure that "looks bad" is the same as "looks scummy." For instance, I think it looks bad that you're shading Inutile for superficial reasons. But do you think that's scummy?In post 76, DeltaWave wrote:frankly most of it confuses me and it seems like lots of weird rationalizations. unless this user is normally on edge all the time, it looks badIn post 73, hoppip wrote:What do you think of the rest of its posts?In post 67, DeltaWave wrote:This has big "how do you do fellow kids" energyIn post 40, inutile wrote: i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
VOTE: Inutile
In post 126, furtiveglance wrote:But seriously....this is kind of increasing my scumread on you. Why don't you talk about inutile, do you still think they're mafia?In post 123, DeltaWave wrote:this is the kind of nonsensical thing that makes you read as town tbhIn post 113, furtiveglance wrote:
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip (83) also is mafia.
VOTE: DeltaWave
The observation about Intuile playing a lot like how DW used to play as scum seems like it’s genuine.In post 129, DeltaWave wrote:that's funny, because you're looking more like town to me the more we talk. I'd say there's a decent 75% chance that inutile is mafia. signal-to-noise ratio is very bad, trying too hard w/r/t townclaiming, etc. reminds me of how I used to play a mafioso when I was new, very frantic. the 25% exception is if this user just plays like this all the time but I do not know the relevant meta.In post 126, furtiveglance wrote:But seriously....this is kind of increasing my scumread on you. Why don't you talk about inutile, do you still think they're mafia?In post 123, DeltaWave wrote:this is the kind of nonsensical thing that makes you read as town tbhIn post 113, furtiveglance wrote:
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip (83) also is mafia.
VOTE: DeltaWave
btw, someone (I forgot who - it's a page or so back) misunderstood why I was sussing inutile. it wasn't because mafia was plural or anything. it's that the whole "let's come together as town, I'm one of you, let's get those evil mafias" is a sus thing to say overall, especially early game. maybe later on when there are some flips or lots of evidence that's a decent thing to say but combined with everything else, inutile just seems like a mafioso on a sugar high.
Gandhi doesn’t exactly seem like an aggressive manipulatorIn post 130, Frogsterking wrote:It's okay, the improv stuff was for Asuka primarily rather than for you.In post 128, furtiveglance wrote:Why are you scumreading Ghandhi? Bit of a non-sequitur I know but I don't want to get into your improv stuff.In post 127, Frogsterking wrote:I had this one improv teacher who was pretty cool who taught us that the hardest lesson in improv is to learn to accept gifts.
Once I saw Eir and Greeting both voted Ghandi I interpreted that as a sign that something was wrong. I reflected on why they may have done that. I realized that Ghandi is attempting to aggressively manipulate as many players as possible and that my initial Townread on them was naive. I believe Ghandi is either a manipulative Townie or a scum slot. In other words, I don't trust Ghandi regardless of their alignment, and I believe their alignment in this case may be scum, because even though it may be NAI for them to be manipulative, the way they're being manipulative in this game doesn't help them to collect AI information about other players.
Not yet.In post 594, Frogsterking wrote:Mapuche do you scum read anyone on my list
I agree I think I was ego projectingIn post 595, Mapuche Never Die wrote:Gandhi doesn’t exactly seem like an aggressive manipulator
Who exactly do you scum read?In post 596, Mapuche Never Die wrote:Not yet.In post 594, Frogsterking wrote:Mapuche do you scum read anyone on my list
This post is shading Frogster for bad reasons. Frogster has explicitly said that he has a strange playstyle, so it should be obvious that Frogster isn’t actually locktowning Ausuka and Intuile when he says that Ausuka and Intuile are lock town.In post 131, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Alright, caught up. Stuff following;
A few things here, first regarding 51;In post 58, Frogsterking wrote: I actually think you've got me here and that everything you're saying in 53 is true.
I have three reasons mainly for not outing the scum slot yet:
I can tell you that I'm pretty sure I'm using spatial working memory to identify where to look rather than verbal working memory.
- I want them to post more before they become alarmed so that it will be easier to look for their partners on later days.
I want them to participate in my survey start and if I out my scum read on them first they probably won't want to do that.
I want to give other players a chance to find them without me spoiling it.
1) Why would you trust a town reads reads so early into a game?
2) This feels like an attempt to pocket Ausuka
Sure, frogster’s post serves no real purpose, but that doesn’t make him scum.As for 58, this is a bad post in general. The first point about not wanting scum to know you're scum reading them - at this point about 5 players had posted anything of note, you were one of them and you town locked the other two (possibly three?) so there really weren't many players left who it could have been.
Other two points are fluff, especially third. Unless you're looking for potential mindmelds, but meh, not a fan of this at all.
This is a filler question that doesn’t advance the game.Serious vote?