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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:39 pm
by Ausuka
In post 565, Nero Cain wrote:gonna vote with my gut for now and see how I feel once I read the rest of the game.

VOTE: Ausuka
:neutral:

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:39 pm
by Ausuka
amazing pagetop from me there

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:45 pm
by Nero Cain
tis a little lacking, yes.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:47 pm
by Ausuka
In post 572, Eiralox wrote:hoppip seems more town
Why do you think so?

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:48 pm
by Ausuka
In post 577, Nero Cain wrote:tis a little lacking, yes.
Your read? I agree

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:50 pm
by Nero Cain
I actually meant your response but sure, my read is lacking and you didn't call me out on this why?

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:52 pm
by Ausuka
because you're town

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:05 pm
by Nero Cain
just seemed a bit defensive and aggressive. It's possible that I'm misreading your tone but someone being misread and their response is
your read is lacking
just seems kinda odd to me.

What are your thoughts on my or anyone else's content since your last post?

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:09 pm
by Ausuka
In post 582, Nero Cain wrote: just seemed a bit defensive and aggressive. It's possible that I'm misreading your tone but someone being misread and their response is
your read is lacking
just seems kinda odd to me.

What are your thoughts on my or anyone else's content since your last post?
Sorry your read sucks :(

I don't have any thoughts I want to share other than the question to Eiralox, otherwise I would have just, like, posted them.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:50 pm
by Mapuche Never Die
In post 98, Ausuka wrote:
In post 89, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
eh do not think i was trying particularly hard there to look town
But you were trying to look town? I consider this as admission for guilt.
Does anyone else believe this's a stretch read?
Do you think scum would admit guilt so openly?
Waking up today, I think it is a bit of a stretch read but there is definitely a world in which it’s a slip.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:53 pm
by Mapuche Never Die
In post 99, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 85, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:Please do elaborate on your Inutile townread. Are you like super familiar playing with them? I couldn't even comprehend what they were trying to say, not to mention trying to read them - best I could come up with was they were flabbergasted from wolf stress. That is, until their "I wasn't trying to look town that much" which I think has a chance of being a slip.
I have never played with Inutile. I believe Inutile is Town because of their fight with Asuka. Scum are rarely going to square off like that at the beginning of the game.
I would hesitate to say that fighting at the start of the game is something only town do, that’s a generalized tell that doesn’t account for an individual player’s playstyle.

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:00 am
by Eiralox
In post 578, Ausuka wrote:
In post 572, Eiralox wrote:hoppip seems more town
Why do you think so?
idk i liked their recent tone but not their content? like they are very defensive and are tunneling way into me while sorta skirting past u ...... but meh the towniest hoppip has sounded to me was in recent posts/ like i have no solid reason to read them one way or another, that was just the vibe I got....... eh.

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:38 am
by Frogsterking
UNVOTE: hutmeil

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:46 am
by Frogsterking
In post 568, hutmeil wrote:^This. After you've put pressure on me, Frog followed suit with unconvincing reasons just to put a vote on me. Trying to test the water perhaps if anyone else will follow suit?
Yeah I have like 6 scum reads and my reasons for voting you look like confbias, so I'm guessing you were one of the slots I was wrong about.

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:47 am
by Frogsterking
Greeting
Delta
hoppip
Mapuche
Gandhi

at least 2 scum in here

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:51 am
by Eiralox
@Nuclear Gandhi rn imho you are not engaged with this game. where are you? what's your take on current game state?

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:55 am
by Frogsterking
In post 589, Frogsterking wrote:Greeting
Delta
hoppip

Mapuche
Gandhi

at least 2 scum in here

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:40 am
by Mapuche Never Die
In post 122, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 82, hoppip wrote:
In post 76, DeltaWave wrote:
In post 73, hoppip wrote:
In post 67, DeltaWave wrote:
In post 40, inutile wrote: i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
This has big "how do you do fellow kids" energy

VOTE: Inutile
What do you think of the rest of its posts?
frankly most of it confuses me and it seems like lots of weird rationalizations. unless this user is normally on edge all the time, it looks bad
Hmm...I suppose that's fair. But I'm not so sure that "looks bad" is the same as "looks scummy." For instance, I think it looks bad that you're shading Inutile for superficial reasons. But do you think that's scummy?
Town
This is just bad surface-level observation. Hoppip’s post is just parroting a common mafia philosophy and applying it to the current situation.

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:50 am
by Mapuche Never Die
In post 126, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 123, DeltaWave wrote:
In post 113, furtiveglance wrote:
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip () also is mafia.

VOTE: DeltaWave
this is the kind of nonsensical thing that makes you read as town tbh
But seriously....this is kind of increasing my scumread on you. Why don't you talk about inutile, do you still think they're mafia?
In post 129, DeltaWave wrote:
In post 126, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 123, DeltaWave wrote:
In post 113, furtiveglance wrote:
I sus DeltaWave for this, and I think their delayed omgus style interaction with hoppip () also is mafia.

VOTE: DeltaWave
this is the kind of nonsensical thing that makes you read as town tbh
But seriously....this is kind of increasing my scumread on you. Why don't you talk about inutile, do you still think they're mafia?
that's funny, because you're looking more like town to me the more we talk. I'd say there's a decent 75% chance that inutile is mafia. signal-to-noise ratio is very bad, trying too hard w/r/t townclaiming, etc. reminds me of how I used to play a mafioso when I was new, very frantic. the 25% exception is if this user just plays like this all the time but I do not know the relevant meta.

btw, someone (I forgot who - it's a page or so back) misunderstood why I was sussing inutile. it wasn't because mafia was plural or anything. it's that the whole "let's come together as town, I'm one of you, let's get those evil mafias" is a sus thing to say overall, especially early game. maybe later on when there are some flips or lots of evidence that's a decent thing to say but combined with everything else, inutile just seems like a mafioso on a sugar high.
The observation about Intuile playing a lot like how DW used to play as scum seems like it’s genuine.

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:50 am
by Frogsterking
Mapuche do you scum read anyone on my list

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:51 am
by Mapuche Never Die
In post 130, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 128, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 127, Frogsterking wrote:I had this one improv teacher who was pretty cool who taught us that the hardest lesson in improv is to learn to accept gifts.
Why are you scumreading Ghandhi? Bit of a non-sequitur I know but I don't want to get into your improv stuff.
It's okay, the improv stuff was for Asuka primarily rather than for you.

Once I saw Eir and Greeting both voted Ghandi I interpreted that as a sign that something was wrong. I reflected on why they may have done that. I realized that Ghandi is attempting to aggressively manipulate as many players as possible and that my initial Townread on them was naive. I believe Ghandi is either a manipulative Townie or a scum slot. In other words, I don't trust Ghandi regardless of their alignment, and I believe their alignment in this case may be scum, because even though it may be NAI for them to be manipulative, the way they're being manipulative in this game doesn't help them to collect AI information about other players.
Gandhi doesn’t exactly seem like an aggressive manipulator

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:51 am
by Mapuche Never Die
In post 594, Frogsterking wrote:Mapuche do you scum read anyone on my list
Not yet.

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:51 am
by Frogsterking
In post 595, Mapuche Never Die wrote:Gandhi doesn’t exactly seem like an aggressive manipulator
I agree I think I was ego projecting

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:52 am
by Frogsterking
In post 596, Mapuche Never Die wrote:
In post 594, Frogsterking wrote:Mapuche do you scum read anyone on my list
Not yet.
Who exactly do you scum read?

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:03 am
by Mapuche Never Die
In post 131, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Alright, caught up. Stuff following;
In post 58, Frogsterking wrote: I actually think you've got me here and that everything you're saying in 53 is true.

I have three reasons mainly for not outing the scum slot yet:
  • I want them to post more before they become alarmed so that it will be easier to look for their partners on later days.

    I want them to participate in my survey start and if I out my scum read on them first they probably won't want to do that.

    I want to give other players a chance to find them without me spoiling it.
I can tell you that I'm pretty sure I'm using spatial working memory to identify where to look rather than verbal working memory.
A few things here, first regarding ;

1) Why would you trust a town reads reads so early into a game?
2) This feels like an attempt to pocket Ausuka
This post is shading Frogster for bad reasons. Frogster has explicitly said that he has a strange playstyle, so it should be obvious that Frogster isn’t actually locktowning Ausuka and Intuile when he says that Ausuka and Intuile are lock town.
Also, the point about pocketing Ausuka is off. Ausuka scumreads Frogster, and now frogster is saying that Ausuka’s points are correct. That’s not a scummy thing to do at all. If anything, it shows a towny flexibility.
As for , this is a bad post in general. The first point about not wanting scum to know you're scum reading them - at this point about 5 players had posted anything of note, you were one of them and you town locked the other two (possibly three?) so there really weren't many players left who it could have been.

Other two points are fluff, especially third. Unless you're looking for potential mindmelds, but meh, not a fan of this at all.
Sure, frogster’s post serves no real purpose, but that doesn’t make him scum.
In post 62, hutmeil wrote:VOTE: Furtive
Serious vote?
This is a filler question that doesn’t advance the game.