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Like there's so much logically wrong with your argument Nancy that tipsy!Titus is shredding it. That's worrying.

Second, if TR or Moon did get shor, coalitioning the leftovers is never a viable plan.

In post 5747, Titus wrote:

In post 5745, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5742, Titus wrote:

In post 5739, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5737, Titus wrote:

In post 5736, Creature wrote:Could be the resistance comes from town?

Possible but I would expect scum to support my plan although my plan is logically optimal, it provides no short term information

but what if

scum is supporting your plan ¿

- dann

They pretty much aren't. The closest thing to a supporter is Moongrass. That dude's been crickets.

Second, my coalition is not guaranteed to fail. If we suppose you town for sake of argument, only 3 others in the original coalition would need to be scum. It's theoretically possible my coalition wins the game.

It's also an argument I want to close off from scum.

I seriously doubt that’s possible. I just can’t see a world where either RC or Sky are scum here, since I can’t see

both

Chemist/Creature being scum because of the dance pairings. I think one of Chemist/Creature + TD/Moon is my best current guess for the scumteam.

What's to stop your proposed scumteam from killing me and then arguing that I'm correct though? By doing my coalition plan, you protect your townread from that argument and show that the thought is paranoia.

Scum couldn’t kill outside of veto?

But unless we vote a power that contains an NK, they can’t kill. I don’t see why scum kills you at all, since your veto plan went through, so I’m assuming scum was onboard with it.

Also Moon being okay with your plan, supports my 2 scum outside of coalition theory because if he’s scum and the ONLY scum on your preferred wagon, he’d never back it.

In post 5750, Titus wrote:Like there's so much logically wrong with your argument Nancy that tipsy!Titus is shredding it. That's worrying.

I don’t understand what’s logically wrong with it and which part?

Coalition w/o Creature/Chemist/Moon/TD? That one?

In post 5752, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5747, Titus wrote:

In post 5745, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5742, Titus wrote:

In post 5739, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5737, Titus wrote:

In post 5736, Creature wrote:Could be the resistance comes from town?

Possible but I would expect scum to support my plan although my plan is logically optimal, it provides no short term information

but what if

scum is supporting your plan ¿

- dann

They pretty much aren't. The closest thing to a supporter is Moongrass. That dude's been crickets.

Second, my coalition is not guaranteed to fail. If we suppose you town for sake of argument, only 3 others in the original coalition would need to be scum. It's theoretically possible my coalition wins the game.

It's also an argument I want to close off from scum.

I seriously doubt that’s possible. I just can’t see a world where either RC or Sky are scum here, since I can’t see

both

Chemist/Creature being scum because of the dance pairings. I think one of Chemist/Creature + TD/Moon is my best current guess for the scumteam.

What's to stop your proposed scumteam from killing me and then arguing that I'm correct though? By doing my coalition plan, you protect your townread from that argument and show that the thought is paranoia.

Scum couldn’t kill outside of veto?

But unless we vote a power that contains an NK, they can’t kill. I don’t see why scum kills you at all, since your veto plan went through, so I’m assuming scum was onboard with it.

Also Moon being okay with your plan, supports my 2 scum outside of coalition theory because if he’s scum and the ONLY scum on your preferred wagon, he’d never back it.

Scum cannot kill outside of veto.

I was referring to an NK in the near future. We've done a fail coalition with scum. Scum then kill me. They argue I was right. Create paranoia in a townblock.

My current drunken theory is Creature Chemist and Stargazer scum.

In post 5753, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5750, Titus wrote:Like there's so much logically wrong with your argument Nancy that tipsy!Titus is shredding it. That's worrying.

I don’t understand what’s logically wrong with it and which part?

Coalition w/o Creature/Chemist/Moon/TD? That one?

Yes. Stargazer or RC or you wind up in that and we cannot box in scum.

Nancy, suppose you are Moongrass scum, how do you break up a large group of the original coalition TRing each other?

In post 5751, Titus wrote:Second, if TR or Moon did get shor, coalitioning the leftovers is never a viable plan.

There is no way either one would get shot, because they were the strongest srs. That’s why Moon was onboard with being part of it. He knew he wouldn’t be dying. Now, whether you want to view that as TMI or logic, based on TD/Moon being the strongest consensus srs, it follows in either case.

Iow, either Moon is town (unlikely imo) backing your coalition or 1/2 scums not in failed coalition. If Moon is ONLY scum, he never sheeps your plan.

In post 5754, Titus wrote:

In post 5752, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5747, Titus wrote:

In post 5745, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5742, Titus wrote:

In post 5739, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5737, Titus wrote:

In post 5736, Creature wrote:Could be the resistance comes from town?

Possible but I would expect scum to support my plan although my plan is logically optimal, it provides no short term information

but what if

scum is supporting your plan ¿

- dann

They pretty much aren't. The closest thing to a supporter is Moongrass. That dude's been crickets.

Second, my coalition is not guaranteed to fail. If we suppose you town for sake of argument, only 3 others in the original coalition would need to be scum. It's theoretically possible my coalition wins the game.

It's also an argument I want to close off from scum.

I seriously doubt that’s possible. I just can’t see a world where either RC or Sky are scum here, since I can’t see

both

Chemist/Creature being scum because of the dance pairings. I think one of Chemist/Creature + TD/Moon is my best current guess for the scumteam.

What's to stop your proposed scumteam from killing me and then arguing that I'm correct though? By doing my coalition plan, you protect your townread from that argument and show that the thought is paranoia.

Scum couldn’t kill outside of veto?

But unless we vote a power that contains an NK, they can’t kill. I don’t see why scum kills you at all, since your veto plan went through, so I’m assuming scum was onboard with it.

Also Moon being okay with your plan, supports my 2 scum outside of coalition theory because if he’s scum and the ONLY scum on your preferred wagon, he’d never back it.

Scum cannot kill outside of veto.

I was referring to an NK in the near future. We've done a fail coalition with scum. Scum then kill me. They argue I was right. Create paranoia in a townblock.

My current drunken theory is Creature Chemist and Stargazer scum.

A) I think both Taly and Sky are bleeding obvtown + Sky did this towntell, which she also did in Newsroom but NOT in Skitter’s Coalition/Undertale/Overkill 1.

And with all of those weird Fuscosco/TD/Mbaki associations, plus an extremely unlikely double scum Creature/Chemist pairing, I sincerely doubt all 3 scum are in coalition. I think maximum of 1 and it’s between Chemist/Creature.

My sr on both TD/Moon are way too strong that I’m wrong on both, if either.

I think we follow Titus' plan but try to replace some of them with original coalitioners.

In post 5756, Titus wrote:Nancy, suppose you are Moongrass scum, how do you break up a large group of the original coalition TRing each other?

Why does he even need to though? TD/Moon can always blam coalition fail on LHFs Overkill11/Chen or anyone else?

Because 2nd coalition fail only tells you scum on it but not how many.

And Moon was over the top whiteknighting Creature and hard pushing Chemist prior to veto. I will find the quotes.

In post 5757, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5751, Titus wrote:Second, if TR or Moon did get shor, coalitioning the leftovers is never a viable plan.

There is no way either one would get shot, because they were the strongest srs. That’s why Moon was onboard with being part of it. He knew he wouldn’t be dying. Now, whether you want to view that as TMI or logic, based on TD/Moon being the strongest consensus srs, it follows in either case.

Iow, either Moon is town (unlikely imo) backing your coalition or 1/2 scums not in failed coalition. If Moon is ONLY scum, he never sheeps your plan.

Then explain why Clemency got shot over both Creature and Chemist.

Moon could never be in the coalition because him dying prevents us from confirming or disproving scum outside the first coalition.

Second, TD is the perfect wifom mislynch spot.

I feel so strongly we need to verify that there is or is not scum outside the first coalition that I am willing to cede control over every single fucking choice outside of picking 1 v 4 until only 1 scum remains.

If I am right, we just fucking win.
If I am wrong, scum can't disrupt the townblock. TD and Moon are boxed in and cannot argue all 3 scum were in the original coalition.

Anyone thinks Chemist and I are scum together?

In post 5759, Creature wrote:I think we follow Titus' plan but try to replace some of them with original coalitioners.

That's literally the antithesis of my plan.

In post 5762, Creature wrote:Anyone thinks Chemist and I are scum together?

I think it's possible.

In post 5763, Titus wrote:

In post 5759, Creature wrote:I think we follow Titus' plan but try to replace some of them with original coalitioners.

That's literally the antithesis of my plan.

Still better than the Sky Chemist Creature team.

In post 5765, Creature wrote:

In post 5763, Titus wrote:

In post 5759, Creature wrote:I think we follow Titus' plan but try to replace some of them with original coalitioners.

That's literally the antithesis of my plan.

Still better than the Sky Chemist Creature team.

Then prove me wrong and join my coalition vote.

If my team is right, town wins. If not, the theory is garbage. Also, scum cannot use it.

probably wouldnt mind sheeping RCs coaltion

In post 5767, 0verki11 wrote:probably wouldnt mind sheeping RCs coaltion

*pulls hair out*

Sorry, if this is too many quotes, I will try to break it down more. I disagree that Creature not dying over Clemency makes him more likely to be scum over Chemist.

In post 5761, Titus wrote:

In post 5757, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5751, Titus wrote:Second, if TR or Moon did get shor, coalitioning the leftovers is never a viable plan.

There is no way either one would get shot, because they were the strongest srs. That’s why Moon was onboard with being part of it. He knew he wouldn’t be dying. Now, whether you want to view that as TMI or logic, based on TD/Moon being the strongest consensus srs, it follows in either case.

Iow, either Moon is town (unlikely imo) backing your coalition or 1/2 scums not in failed coalition. If Moon is ONLY scum, he never sheeps your plan.

Then explain why Clemency got shot over both Creature and Chemist.

Moon could never be in the coalition because him dying prevents us from confirming or disproving scum outside the first coalition.

Second, TD is the perfect wifom mislynch spot.

I feel so strongly we need to verify that there is or is not scum outside the first coalition that I am willing to cede control over every single fucking choice outside of picking 1 v 4 until only 1 scum remains.

If I am right, we just fucking win.
If I am wrong, scum can't disrupt the townblock. TD and Moon are boxed in and cannot argue all 3 scum were in the original coalition.

The only one who seems to be arguing that is you though?

In post 5770, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5761, Titus wrote:

In post 5757, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5751, Titus wrote:Second, if TR or Moon did get shor, coalitioning the leftovers is never a viable plan.

There is no way either one would get shot, because they were the strongest srs. That’s why Moon was onboard with being part of it. He knew he wouldn’t be dying. Now, whether you want to view that as TMI or logic, based on TD/Moon being the strongest consensus srs, it follows in either case.

Iow, either Moon is town (unlikely imo) backing your coalition or 1/2 scums not in failed coalition. If Moon is ONLY scum, he never sheeps your plan.

Then explain why Clemency got shot over both Creature and Chemist.

Moon could never be in the coalition because him dying prevents us from confirming or disproving scum outside the first coalition.

Second, TD is the perfect wifom mislynch spot.

I feel so strongly we need to verify that there is or is not scum outside the first coalition that I am willing to cede control over every single fucking choice outside of picking 1 v 4 until only 1 scum remains.

If I am right, we just fucking win.
If I am wrong, scum can't disrupt the townblock. TD and Moon are boxed in and cannot argue all 3 scum were in the original coalition.

The only one who seems to be arguing that is you though?

Which is why it's correct.

Scum would join me if I was wrong.

In post 5762, Creature wrote:Anyone thinks Chemist and I are scum together?

Since the two of you were paired together in dance, highly unlikely, which is why I don’t understand why Titus thinks 2-3 scum in coalition makes any sense at all. Her Creature/Chemist/Sky POE just sounds completely whacked to me, especially when there’s so many weird Fus/TD/Moon interactions and scummy posts from both but still think TD over Moon or both is the scum outside of coalition. I think Chen if not both and if he’s town, than maybe Overki11?

That’s why I’m pissed about PB not being in the game, because I think a NF/PB/Succinct/RC/Sky/Maria/Titus coalition had an extremely high chance of succeeding.

However Chen voting for NF/Succinct/RC/Sky/Maria/Titus/Chenn coalition is a very good look. I’m trying to decide if NF/Succinct/RC/Sky/Maria/Titus/Overkill11 is better though?

It’s that last slot I’m the most iffy on.

In post 5771, Titus wrote:

In post 5770, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5761, Titus wrote:

In post 5757, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5751, Titus wrote:Second, if TR or Moon did get shor, coalitioning the leftovers is never a viable plan.

There is no way either one would get shot, because they were the strongest srs. That’s why Moon was onboard with being part of it. He knew he wouldn’t be dying. Now, whether you want to view that as TMI or logic, based on TD/Moon being the strongest consensus srs, it follows in either case.

Iow, either Moon is town (unlikely imo) backing your coalition or 1/2 scums not in failed coalition. If Moon is ONLY scum, he never sheeps your plan.

Then explain why Clemency got shot over both Creature and Chemist.

Moon could never be in the coalition because him dying prevents us from confirming or disproving scum outside the first coalition.

Second, TD is the perfect wifom mislynch spot.

I feel so strongly we need to verify that there is or is not scum outside the first coalition that I am willing to cede control over every single fucking choice outside of picking 1 v 4 until only 1 scum remains.

If I am right, we just fucking win.
If I am wrong, scum can't disrupt the townblock. TD and Moon are boxed in and cannot argue all 3 scum were in the original coalition.

The only one who seems to be arguing that is you though?

Which is why it's correct.

Scum would join me if I was wrong.

There is no freaking way Creature/Chemist/Sky are the scumteam. Why then is confitown Succinct preferring to sheep blind RC coalition over yours then?

In post 5773, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5771, Titus wrote:

In post 5770, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5761, Titus wrote:

In post 5757, NanceFloor wrote:

In post 5751, Titus wrote:Second, if TR or Moon did get shor, coalitioning the leftovers is never a viable plan.

There is no way either one would get shot, because they were the strongest srs. That’s why Moon was onboard with being part of it. He knew he wouldn’t be dying. Now, whether you want to view that as TMI or logic, based on TD/Moon being the strongest consensus srs, it follows in either case.

Iow, either Moon is town (unlikely imo) backing your coalition or 1/2 scums not in failed coalition. If Moon is ONLY scum, he never sheeps your plan.

Then explain why Clemency got shot over both Creature and Chemist.

Moon could never be in the coalition because him dying prevents us from confirming or disproving scum outside the first coalition.

Second, TD is the perfect wifom mislynch spot.

I feel so strongly we need to verify that there is or is not scum outside the first coalition that I am willing to cede control over every single fucking choice outside of picking 1 v 4 until only 1 scum remains.

If I am right, we just fucking win.
If I am wrong, scum can't disrupt the townblock. TD and Moon are boxed in and cannot argue all 3 scum were in the original coalition.

The only one who seems to be arguing that is you though?

Which is why it's correct.

Scum would join me if I was wrong.

There is no freaking way Creature/Chemist/Sky are the scumteam. Why then is confitown Succinct preferring to sheep blind RC coalition over yours then?

Conftown does not mean confright? Agency capture is also a thing.