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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:26 pm
by pisskop
This has been a meme with you all game too.
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:05 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Pisskop straight scum claiming:3
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:05 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Happy scum day btw
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:53 am
by TiphaineDeath
Yeah, I really didn't want to, but this has got to be the only viable option at this point. VOTE: pook
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:17 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
wow I am shocked by this turn of events
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:18 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
are you really not even going to wait for mod clarification on whether this cult is anti-town before voting me? Tdeath straight throwing rn
or he's scum :3
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:23 am
by TiphaineDeath
I doubt the mod is going to clarify but if
@Baker
feels like confirming for us that the cult win-condition does not create a loss for town, I am willing and happy to hear it.
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:02 am
by davesaz
NPOM's updated wincon:
In post 5690, The Baker wrote:You win when all opposition to the town is eliminated.
You and your band win if you are alive at end game, or you take up 50% of the player list, whichever comes first.
Rather than talk about this obliquely, let's quote and dissect.
The town wincon is struck through and replaced.
The new wincon sounds like NPOM has to be alive, or the unspecified band has to be 50% of player list. NPOM and the unspecified band win if either thing happens.
If every member of the band has this wincon, then the real condition is: if any member of the band is alive at endgame, or the band is 50%, then the band wins.
I don't think members of the band are aware of whether it's themselves only or the any member interpretation. They have no way of communicating with each other.
Seems to be a cross between survivor and cult, maybe more a group survivor than what we usually think of as cult. We don't know if the band can actually recruit, and we don't know if the band winning causes the other factions to lose or if it's immaterial for the other factions. I don't think the mod can answer this, and thus he probably won't answer the pending question. He did say that wincon is basically alignment, but the answer wasn't 100%.
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:21 am
by Gamma Emerald
I think we should wait for mod response but I am willing to give Pooky botd
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:51 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
if this cult is anti-town its pretty obvious I'm not in it
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:51 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
which of course begs the question of why Tdeath and Pisskop are voting me :3
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:52 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
like we don't even know if this is a cult to begin with
NPOM flipped vanilla shredder...
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:54 am
by Gamma Emerald
The town wincon was crossed out
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:56 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
yea but he flipped as "Vanilla Shredder" not cultist
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:04 am
by Gamma Emerald
So what
It’s probably like that the starting balance can be approximated
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:05 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
so I'm not sure if this cult is even anti-town or not
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:06 am
by pisskop
13:4:1:1:1:1 sounds right to me
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:07 am
by pisskop
Meaning we nabbed all the scum and theres just the cult and another 3p?
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:08 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
there were 2 nightkills last night
also according to first page
"NoPowerOverMe flips ??Town??"
might be the cult is town aligned?
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:09 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5767, pisskop wrote:Meaning we nabbed all the scum and theres just the cult and another 3p?
didn't we only kill 3 scum? i think we kill the last scum and its game over town win ? the cult win condition says they win if they r alive at endgame
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:09 am
by Gamma Emerald
We only have 3 flipped mafia
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:11 am
by TiphaineDeath
Cult is def survivors, question is whether if they become 50% or greater and end the game is town still wins, and it doesn't seem likely.
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:12 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
if the cult leader recruited the last scum they should just claim that and tell us and we can all win together
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:14 am
by TiphaineDeath
If there's only one scum left what do you think the odds are that it is A50 and that claim is a desperation gambit?
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:17 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
the way we play this endgame is very different based on baker's answer to the cult question
if my interpretation of the cult win con is correct, and we just need to elim the last scum and its game over we all win, then we aim for the scum.
if this cult is actively against town win con and we need to eliminate the cult to win, we should avoid hitting the last scum and aim for cult leader dude