In post 5320, mastina wrote:Comprehensive List of Claims/Reads
, Version 2.0
Pokemon:
Makuhita
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Bulk Up
Role:
extra attack for evolution
(speculation: evolution was an X-shot vig?)
Actions:
N1, did nothing? (not confirmed, but role wasn't evolved so presumed).
Notes:
(None)
Pokemon:
Huntail
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Dive
Role:
Nonconsecutive Follower (sees type of move target used, from Protective/Killing/Investigative/Misc.; couldn't use two nights in a row)
Actions:
Guess we'll never know, huh?
Notes:
Fuck y'all for extending the game because with Wisdom not speed-limmed we'd have already ended the game in a town win.
Alexandrite/Gamma Emerald
Pokemon:
Blissey
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Heal Pulse
Role:
Indecisive Rolestopper (prevents target from being affected by any move/role; cannot target the same player consecutively)
Actions:
N1, rolestopped mastina (granting her a 1x copy of his role); N2, rolestopped Milobird; N3, rolestopped Truth Innuendos Lies (this is the source of the failed nightkill); N4, rolestopped MathBlade; N5, ???; was nightkilled.
Notes:
(None)
Pokemon:
Gardevoir
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Imprison
Role:
Combined Jailkeeper Watcher (Targets a player; target is protected but roleblocked; learns whoever visited target)
Actions:
N1, ???; N2, ???; N3, targeted PookyTheMagicalBear (nobody targeted Pooky N3), N4 ???; was nightkilled.
Notes:
(None)
Pokemon:
Milotic->Milokaross
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Splash->Disarming Voice
Role:
Fruit Vendor->
1-shot Strong-Willed Friendly Neighbor (cannot be prevented, but could be redirected)
Actions:
N1, targeted Kitty Trauma Team/Malakittens (this action's failure is unexplained) and evolved. N2, Friendly Neighbor'd Milobird. (Milobird confirmed.); N6 was nightkilled.
Notes:
(None)
Pokemon:
Wurmple->Cascoon->Dustox (allegedly due to scum flip D1)
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Confusion
Role:
Roleblocker that doesn't stop kills
Actions:
evolved N1; evolved N2; no-action'd N3/N4/N5.
Notes:
...Oops?
Pokemon:
Absol
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Future Sight
Role:
Informed 3-shot Delayed Cop (targets a player; receives their role the next night; could use this action three times; knew there was a Godfather in the game, later revealed to be
imaginality
)
Actions:
N1,
Dwlee
; N2, investigated SleepyKrew/Valkyrie Dimension/Critter/Mathblade, received the result of them being
town
; N3, ??? (but was killed before results); N4, was nightkilled.
Notes:
Was the N3 nightkill, due to Gamma Emerald's rolestop being the only killstop effect to work that night.
Kitty Trauma Team/Malakittens
Pokemon:
Remoraid->Octillery
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
???->???
Role:
Neighborizer-permanent-
Busdriver(busdrives self and neighborized target permanently)->???
Actions:
N1, ???; N2, targeted Milobird (this action failed due to Gamma Emerald's rolestop); evolved; N3, ???; N4, ???; N5, ???; N6, ???
Notes:
Was confirmed as town from
MathBlade
using a
Loyal Neighborize
on them N4.
Pokemon:
Solrock
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Wonder Room
Role:
Neighbor-
Vigilante with
PookyTheMagicalBear
Actions:
N1, Vigged
Gypyx
.
Notes:
Was confirmed as town from
Firebringer
using a
Loyal Neighborize
on him N1.
SleepyKrew/Valkyrie Dimension/Critter/MathBlade
Pokemon:
Lotad->Lombre->Ludicolo
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Mega Drain->1x Dragon Dance->???
Role:
???->modified
1-Shot Universal Backup (chooses who to back up the role of)->
1-shot Loyal Neighborizer (targets a player, forms a neighborhood with them; action fails if targeting scum)
Actions:
N4, neighborized
successfully
Kitty Trauma Team/Malakittens
, conftowning them.
Notes:
Was confirmed as town from
Truth Innuendos Lies
investigating him N2 and receiving this result N3.
Sharing the Braincell/ssbm_Kyouko
Pokemon:
Azurill
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Attract
Role:
Lovedizer (target takes one more vote to eliminate)
Actions:
N1, ???; was nightkilled.
Notes:
(None)
Pokemon:
Rayquaza
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Dragon Dance
Role:
1-shot Loyal Neighborizer (once in game, targets a player, forms a neighborhood with them; action fails if targeting scum)
Actions:
N1, neighborized
successfully
SirCakez
, conftowning him.
Notes:
(None)
Ralts/PookyTheMagicalBear
Pokemon:
Lunatone
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Wonder Room
Role:
Neighbor-
Vigilante with
SirCakez
Actions:
N1, Vigged
Gypyx
.
Notes:
Pooky never busses D1 so is basically conftown. Even if he weren't, Consider this:
In post 4909, mastina wrote: In post 4884, Milobird wrote:Also, no. I'm never clearing Pooky this game without a cop clear. I just can't.
Well then you're doing exactly what scum did because this should be all you need for proof of why Pooky is town:
In post 4341, imaginality wrote:If Pooky literally never buses his buddies D1 doesn't that cross into a trust tell? Like instead of "I'm always town if I say I am" it's "I'm always town if I say 'vote X' and X flips scum D1"?
Ugh. I just don't believe scum target TIL which would mean hoping Gamma targeted someone else. When scum have presumably used Perish Song on someone. Like, who else would Dwlee realistically have used Perish Song on?
And if there's a town power that could direct the scum kill onto Pooky surely someone would have claimed that?
So
VOTE: Pooky
In post 4448, imaginality wrote:There must be some games where it would have been more beneficial for Pooky to bus scum D1. If it's just a case that he's not needed to do far, then why do people place so much weight on it? "Pooky has never bussed D1" feels fine to me in a way which "Pooky never busses D1" doesn't.
In post 4456, imaginality wrote: In post 4455, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote: In post 4448, imaginality wrote:There must be some games where it would have been more beneficial for Pooky to bus scum D1. If it's just a case that he's not needed to do far, then why do people place so much weight on it? "Pooky has never bussed D1" feels fine to me in a way which "Pooky never busses D1" doesn't.
You continuing to push Pooky isn’t doing you any favours. He’s practically confitown for the one shot vig thing.
Clearly not everyone agrees with you.
In post 4491, imaginality wrote:I just feel there's something off when people are treating it 100% confirmation of Pooky town. If other people are loudly proclaiming this every game it happens then Pooky not advertising it himself is irrelevant. Effectively town's getting an extra N1 cop inno result in a quarter or so of the games Pooky's in.
I don't know, it just annoys me we've gone from about to lim Pooky to about to lim me just because of this tell that everyone treats as gospel.
Read what imaginality is saying there and read what you're saying now and think about that for a second.
Pooky is town.
That should be enough to elevate him to conftown levels for you.
Pokemon:
Meditite->Medichan
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Detect(only???)->???
Role:
2-shot nerfed/ORIGINAL-
Motion Detector (also known as a weak-voyeur, not weak-modifier, but literally
weakened
-voyeur; may be getting an official NRG-rebranded-name soon) /
Activated Bulletproof->Flavor Cop /
Rolecop (depending on target's evolutionary status); checks what someone evolves into and if they’ve evolved/can still.
Actions:
N1, immunity, triggering evolution. N2, targeted Wisdom (result: two evolutions, one neighborizer one follower). N3, targeted Malakittens (result; evolved). N4, targeted STD (result, STD is a 2-evolution pokemon). N5, ???. N6, ???
Notes:
Obvtown by play, but not conftown.
Milobird where's the N5/N6?
mastina
Pokemon:
Sudowoodo
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Mimic
Role:
Reflexive Role-copier (the first player to target me, I get a one-shot copy of their move/role)->One-shot rolestopper
Actions:
N1, received a rolestop (later revealed to be Gamma Emerald's); N2, rolestopped DKKoba.
Notes:
Well I know I'm town but objectively I've technically only got circumstantial evidence clearing me between my interactions with scum, scum's interactions with me, the unlikelihood of scum having both my role and Gypyx's, and that I am out of my scum range, but *shrug*, SOME fucks still don't see me as town so make of it what you will.
Thestatusquo/DKKoba
Pokemon:
Phanpy->Donphan
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Sturdy->???
Role:
Bulletproof->
Nonconsecutive Delayed modified-
Rolestopper which is a form of
Roleblocker (targets a player; anyone targeting that player that night is roleblocked the following night)
Actions:
N1, evolved. N2, self-targeted (this failed due to me, mastina, rolestopping them); N3, could not act; N4, targeted MathBlade (this failed due to Gamma Emerald rolestopping them); N5, couldn't act.
Notes:
Was a personal townread. Claim doesn't seem like bullshit that was made up, and doesn't seem to be a scum role, either.
Save the Dragons
Pokemon:
Mareep->Flaafy->Ampharos
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Light Screen->Growl->Cotton Spore
Role:
Protection from non-Normal(type) moves (with link to Normal-type moves)->protect from harmful moves, prioritizing non-killing moves (one action stopped/night)->treestumps a player after their death.
Actions:
N1, evolved. N2, evolved. N3, targeted
Titus
. N4, targeted MathBlade (however, this failed due to Gamma Emerald's rolestop).
Notes:
Was a townread. It felt like the same STD as I saw in
Final Fantasy XIV, but today's events and last night's events make him look more suspect. Why Titus instead of SirCakez? His treestump only activates on the player's death. Treestumping Titus N3 didn't make Titus die N3; Titus was still able to vote and if she had a role, could've used it, up through N6.
In other words, using it on the known player whose role was expended instead of elsewhere is rather suspicious. Why not on SirCakez? He was clear but his role was unknown. Why not on TIL? They could've given us a third inno. Why not on WhemeStar? You get the idea. Plus, beyond that? The scum knew that MathBlade wasn't treestumped and wasn't able to be protected by DKKoba. Why was MathBlade NOT killed by the scum N6? And why did the scum know to target Titus?
Last night, aside from MathBlade, we had three conftown. Even with Malakittens not conftown on N3 (which diligent scum would be able to figure out), that's still a 50/50. How did they get it right?
I have my concerns about STD, and there's more not listed there (from other players who I read their points and didn't quote in my iso to +1 them, oops, but their points are valid and add to mine), so STD has some very ??? things going on.
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