Since the two of you were paired together in dance, highly unlikely, which is why I don’t understand why Titus thinks 2-3 scum in coalition makes any sense at all. Her Creature/Chemist/Sky POE just sounds completely whacked to me, especially when there’s so many weird Fus/TD/Moon interactions and scummy posts from both but still think TD over Moon or both is the scum outside of coalition. I think Chen if not both and if he’s town, than maybe Overki11?
That’s why I’m pissed about PB not being in the game, because I think a NF/PB/Succinct/RC/Sky/Maria/Titus coalition had an extremely high chance of succeeding.
However Chen voting for NF/Succinct/RC/Sky/Maria/Titus/Chenn coalition is a very good look. I’m trying to decide if NF/Succinct/RC/Sky/Maria/Titus/Overkill11 is better though?
It’s that last slot I’m the most iffy on.
I don't trust either coalition.
I don't think you mean harm but we should use coalition to gain info not chase solo glory.
Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 4:51 pm
by NanceFloor
I can tell you why Sky is town. I just won a game with a successful coalition that scum!Sky wanted no part of in case she’d be ”mislynched” for it failing, She demonstrated no such reticence here, did she?
Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 4:57 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 523, Skygazer wrote:i mean it's important for me to sort reads on me as genuine/not genuine esp in this game
w the amount of people voting for me to be on the coalition
im concerned that i may be a designated mislynch if im on the coalition and it fails
In post 5782, Moongrass wrote:Titus give up these people don't listen to logic. This game is a town loss but at least you were one of the voices of reason lol.
Booo. I'm never giving up. That's a hallmark of late game Titus.
im worried that ill be mislynched if im put in the coalition
Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 3:37 am
by NanceFloor
In post 5782, Moongrass wrote:Titus give up these people don't listen to logic. This game is a town loss but at least you were one of the voices of reason lol.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 3:47 am
by NanceFloor
In post 5782, Moongrass wrote:Titus give up these people don't listen to logic. This game is a town loss but at least you were one of the voices of reason lol.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 7:42 am
by Time Devil
Player 1
Player 2
RadiantCowbells
0verki11
mbaki (Moongrass)
NanceFloor
OkaPoka
BrightEyedFish
Time Devil
themilkcartonkid (Succinct)
Ankamius (Pink Ball)
Clemency
Creature
Chemist1422
Taly (Skygazer)
JohnnyEnglish (MariaR)
chennisden
Titus
Fuscosco
- Not in dance, scumflip
Green
- Townflip
Bright Green
- Confirmed Town
Red
- Veto Survivors
Yellow
- Coalition Leftovers
Pink
- Scummy non-coalitioners
Normal - Towny non-coalitioners
VOTE: Succinct, Time Devil, MariaR, chennisden, Titus, RadiantCowbells, Skygazer
In post 2548, mbaki wrote:Dance / Vengeful accomplish the sameish things, so I'm putting them together. I think this is the best choice for today, probably.
Now, here's why this whole conversation is stupid and Vengeful eclipses Dance
. If we pick Dance, the benefit is we get to pick two players to kill. The most likely result is we lynch 2 LHF, one of the scum probably ends up with TMCK who ya'll have publicly declared immune to lynch, and generally scum get to control the narrative. It does let us kill two players without a night kill, which basically makes it close to straight up better than Veto at this stage in the game, so there's that. However, let's look at Vengeful.
Vengeful, if we lynch town, we/they get to pick a second shot. Essentially, still two dead people with control of town and no night kill, just like 8ball but actually safer. So it accomplishes the same as Dance, with the benefit that we control the two people we kill, scum doesn't. Dance is narrative building from scum, they hold the cards, whereas with Vengeful we do. Keep in mind 3 scum 12 lynchable town (there's an IC) makes it mathematically not likely to hit scum, so the most probable outcome is 1-2 dead town. If we lynch scum, they kill TMCK. I don't get why you're all acting like that's a bad thing. If we lynch scum, that means we have now killed
2 scum and only 1 town
. Its literally fucking 12:2, *and* we still have a bunch of cool shit
. Quiz is free at that point as it makes another IC; scum literally do not have the numbers to put up a scum to get the 3 night kills. I illustrated this above. So, we create another IC (this time with bulletproof!) along with a lynch, and then there's still coalition / veto to clean up coalition / 1of4 to find the last scum / reveal to create
another
IC / etc. If we lynch scum today we close to auto win in this setup. Ank said this is the same as a lynch if we hit scum; yes, it is, and lynching scum auto wins with these numbers in this setup with even a *little* bit of skill. Lynching scum with
Dance accomplishes the same thing, which is why I still think its the second best option, but vengeful's utility eclipses it
.
Does that make sense? If eli7 wasn't good enough I can eli5 it.
Vengeful:
If a majority is not achieved by deadline, the power is forfeited, and the Mafia may kill that Night.
If a town player is eliminated and the Mafia control 50% of the votes, the Mafia immediately win and the eliminated townie does not get a vengekill.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 4:34 pm
by Titus
In post 5792, NanceFloor wrote:You don’t seriously believe that scum decided to pair 2 scumslots together, do you?
That is extremely unlikely unless one of them is a deep wolf and I don’t see either Creature or Chemist qualifying for that, in this game
