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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:52 am
by MathBlade
I am halfway convinced to flash wagon tene
Those posts are bad
Like tene isn’t in the hood but it feels either blatant suck up or a slip.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:52 am
by Titus
If you're willing to see that VP is town, then VP might not be the automatic elimination. We're starting to talk about the game as a whole. It's a long shot but we have scum in my pool.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:53 am
by MathBlade
In post 5801, Titus wrote:If you're willing to see that VP is town, then VP might not be the automatic elimination. We're starting to talk about the game as a whole. It's a long shot but we have scum in my pool.
I don’t think VP is town but I am not sure if he’s the right elim.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:55 am
by VP Baltar
In post 5797, fireisredsir wrote: In post 5789, VP Baltar wrote:Ok, right. See that from my perspective in where I'm town, and you can see how I think he is not actually doing anything this game.
Who else is he truly pushing? What has he shown progression on in his thoughts toward the game? What utility has he provided to town?
if nero thinks your maf then i think he is playing just like how i would expect town nero to. from what ive read, town nero tbh isn't very high utility to town except that he has p good reads sometimes. but he just kinda sits there and yells that his reads are maf. he's independent and doesn't really work with people, and he is very stubborn and hard to move. but maf nero does work with people, he compromises, he tries to appeal, and he takes the easy mislims when he can.
he also does have other reads, he thinks titus is maf (which is +++town nero btw), he's talked about his opinions on the progression of game state with malc, galron, april, titus, and others
Is this first hand meta you have or you're going on what???
I'll freely admit, I don't have Nero meta since I probably have one or two way old games with him somewhere.
As far as his read progressions, I think you're reaching quite a bit there. His opinion seems to adjust with what's popular, or what he sees as convenient to push the idea that I'm scum. That is the safe and central point he has not evolved past for about 150 pages now. That's stagnation in my book
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:56 am
by Nero Cain
I pushed Wu yes but I didn't ignore the conflicting evidence like you did. He was an EZ push and after Math/HEM claimed out you hard pushed the was the easiest wagon. Also your "Nero pushed Malc" is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:56 am
by tenebrousluminary
In post 5800, MathBlade wrote:
I am halfway convinced to flash wagon tene
Those posts are bad
Like tene isn’t in the hood but it feels either blatant suck up or a slip.
If that was a slip in the way I believe you mean it, I would not have used the word "scum." I would have said "oh, Galron is our traitor." But it wasn't one.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:01 am
by VP Baltar
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:03 am
by VP Baltar
Nudging while risking nothing. Who is more likely to do this? Scum or town?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:07 am
by Nero Cain
In post 5799, VP Baltar wrote:But here is a pretty notable problem: yeet and Math, two confirmed town, were also on both those wagons.
this also feels like a cop-out. Just b/c there were some town that voted on Malcolm doesn't mean you have to be town.
The three players that you pushed at the begining of the day (and last night) were all ppl that were voting you. You only added eyes this morning b/c his wagon popped up.
The majority of scum were on the Malcolm wagon yesterday and you know it.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:12 am
by VP Baltar
In post 5808, Nero Cain wrote: In post 5799, VP Baltar wrote:But here is a pretty notable problem: yeet and Math, two confirmed town, were also on both those wagons.
this also feels like a cop-out. Just b/c there were some town that voted on Malcolm doesn't mean you have to be town.
The three players that you pushed at the begining of the day (and last night) were all ppl that were voting you. You only added eyes this morning b/c his wagon popped up.
The majority of scum were on the Malcolm wagon yesterday and you know it.
I think the scum were likely split between the wagons, but more inclined to think on me given I am louder and doing more solving.
And, yes, the point I raised is a fatal flaw in your argument because they are provable exceptions to the very bad logic you're using. This isn't a newbie game, so don't expect me to take it on your philosophy being "scum vote townies!" when I just showed you that's not the case universally
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:13 am
by Nero Cain
I'm not even doing that but nice try.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:13 am
by VP Baltar
*take it easy on your philosophy...
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:15 am
by MathBlade
In post 5805, tenebrousluminary wrote: In post 5800, MathBlade wrote:
I am halfway convinced to flash wagon tene
Those posts are bad
Like tene isn’t in the hood but it feels either blatant suck up or a slip.
If that was a slip in the way I believe you mean it, I would not have used the word "scum." I would have said "oh, Galron is our traitor." But it wasn't one.
I just find it weird to have someone agree with me after all this resistance
Like April and Galron would be my top two elims
Where is boon?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:16 am
by VP Baltar
@fire-pretty unlikely I am going to vote Titus. Where else is your head at that we can maybe talk about?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:16 am
by Nero Cain
I'm not going to convince scum that they are scum so I really don't care about your opinion but I mean you are basically using the same argument, that I should be flipped if you are town.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:18 am
by VP Baltar
In post 5814, Nero Cain wrote:I'm not going to convince scum that they are scum so I really don't care about your opinion but I mean you are basically using the same argument, that I should be flipped if you are town.
I've already explained why I think you are the most likely scum in the hood and it isn't based in "he's voting me" as much as the PoE points there.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:19 am
by MathBlade
I guess let’s ask this:
Who doesn’t think VP/Nero is SVT or TVS?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:20 am
by Nero Cain
ok?
I'm just saying you are being a hypocrite
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:22 am
by Titus
Me but their my scumpartners. If I had to pick one, Nero scum.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 am
by Titus
*they're
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:24 am
by Titus
I don't want Tene but I'd do tene over VP.
Has Boon logged in?
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:24 am
by VP Baltar
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:26 am
by Nero Cain
i see we have entered the "joke" about VP being my scumbuddy stage
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:27 am
by Titus
The fact that the most of the game isn't really discussing half the lurkers aside from STD and a little about April's real life is uhhh
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:27 am
by Titus
Alright. Flip VP then. I need to be proven right in order for us to have a shot at winning.