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Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:32 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 5847, CarbonFiber wrote:They are curently sitting in the lolcabdgame bin.
This isn't an excuse.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:33 am
by Breakfast With Sandy
In post 5848, Just Sheep Us wrote:
In post 5846, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Though IMO I took plenty of public stands on players despite having mush at the bottom of my PoE list.
and unfortunately most of those stances were in direct opposition to mine so i didn't want to hear it
Are we aligning better now?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:33 am
by Nachomamma8
As in, the correct response when role information directly contradicts your reads isn't "oh, I guess my reads are right and lolcabdgame!"

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:36 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 5830, CarbonFiber wrote:But BOTH flipping town and telling us to get AP dead? That only increased my suspicion rather than throw me off.
It increased YOUR suspicion.
And also the suspicion of your last major scumread.
Which you're holding onto despite of everything pointing to a different conclusion because "lolcabdgame".

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:36 am
by Just Sheep Us
In post 5851, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Are we aligning better now?
yes. is magenta really beli's top town?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:37 am
by CarbonFiber
In post 5852, Nachomamma8 wrote:As in, the correct response when role information directly contradicts your reads isn't "oh, I guess my reads are right and lolcabdgame!"
But it seems so implausible that AP is acting the way he has been and is actually town. That and Mastin's read. Unless AP is doing a mega-troll on us and thought "hey, let me play to my scum-meta to troll Mastin and also spend a ton of time accusing obvtown of being scum, that should be fun, fun, fun!"

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:38 am
by Titan
In post 5844, Just Sheep Us wrote:
In post 5842, Titan wrote:Also, my point is after two wait three games where you were scum and I had you as town at certain points, and then you're in here behaving very similarly to your scum games, and saying you're behaving that way in the neighborhood, why wouldn't you recognize why I would be suspicious of you? Why is it oh she's setting me up? Why isn't it oh I'm behaving similarly to my scum game she's probably picking up those vibes?
because i had my head stuck in the sand

Bah this sounds town :)

Maybe I did too.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:38 am
by Just Sheep Us
@ falcon: do you even know ap

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:38 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 5855, CarbonFiber wrote:
In post 5852, Nachomamma8 wrote:As in, the correct response when role information directly contradicts your reads isn't "oh, I guess my reads are right and lolcabdgame!"
But it seems so implausible that AP is acting the way he has been and is actually town.
That and Mastin's read. Unless AP is doing a mega-troll on us and thought "hey, let me play to my scum-meta to troll Mastin and also spend a ton of time accusing obvtown of being scum, that should be fun, fun, fun!"
"But it's a really strong read!"

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:39 am
by Just Sheep Us
In post 5838, Just Sheep Us wrote:ap
stalin
falcon
nacho
titan
peregrinev
i really believe that if the 6 of us realize that we're all town this game is solved

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:40 am
by Nachomamma8

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:40 am
by PeregrineV
In post 5818, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5813, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 5808, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5771, PeregrineV wrote:Then it seems Nacho should really claim at this point if he hasn't already.
Why, exactly?
According to Tammy, you can be roleblocked.

According to AP, he targeted you night1 and failed.

According to Stalin, he went no where night1.

According to you, you understand why he failed.

Let's start with these reasons.
None of this adds up to a reason why I should claim.
This is true. Maybe you could explain, like Stalin, why it in not in the Town's best interest for you to claim.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:40 am
by Just Sheep Us
7* #slip

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:40 am
by Titan
In post 5837, Nachomamma8 wrote:I think it's stupid to go "oh, Katsuki wouldn't fakeclaim like this" when you have DesBro OR AP needing to be liars in order to call Katsuki town and one of those possibilities is out of play due to being extremely town and the other possibility is out of play because of a clear (that's not just a cop clear or a no result = town) and having night actions corroborated by two separate people on two separate occasions.

I'm not stupid :(

Just extra cautious.

And a little crazy.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:41 am
by Breakfast With Sandy
In post 5854, Just Sheep Us wrote:
In post 5851, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Are we aligning better now?
yes. is magenta really beli's top town?
I don't know if he's top of Beli's list, but Beli feels very strongly that the role has to be town despite cabd game paranoia.

My townread is based on how he used the role.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:41 am
by CarbonFiber
@ Tammy, still want to hear what those niggles on your meta are about.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:42 am
by CarbonFiber
In post 5858, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5855, CarbonFiber wrote:
In post 5852, Nachomamma8 wrote:As in, the correct response when role information directly contradicts your reads isn't "oh, I guess my reads are right and lolcabdgame!"
But it seems so implausible that AP is acting the way he has been and is actually town.
That and Mastin's read. Unless AP is doing a mega-troll on us and thought "hey, let me play to my scum-meta to troll Mastin and also spend a ton of time accusing obvtown of being scum, that should be fun, fun, fun!"
"But it's a really strong read!"
But it is so unlikely Mastin was wrong.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:42 am
by AngryPidgeon
Desperado, why are you townreading F16? I'm willing to listen. I mean I know I'm based on this but I just can't believe someone is capable of being this hypocritical and self assured. Plus the emotion at the beginning of today was sso out of place.

Phone post

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:43 am
by Titan
In post 5865, CarbonFiber wrote:@ Tammy, still want to hear what those niggles on your meta are about.

Oh I don't want to tell you.

>_<

>_>

<_<

You got the tonal things right though! And that there are things I wouldn't have said as scum!
CarbonFiber wrote:@ Tammy, still want to hear what those niggles on your meta are about.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:43 am
by AngryPidgeon
Stop using mastin as a crutch. She even admitted to not having an actual reason for her read on me.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:43 am
by Just Sheep Us
In post 5864, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:I don't know if he's top of Beli's list, but Beli feels very strongly that the role has to be town despite cabd game paranoia.
does beli feel strongly that multiple gladiating roles must be town?

i think at the time his choice for the cagefight seemed ok but i thought business was town before and i think there were better choices. or he could have just put up two scummy people like us and rancid and let that resolve itself d1 rather than festering over into d2.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:44 am
by PeregrineV
In post 5866, CarbonFiber wrote:
In post 5858, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5855, CarbonFiber wrote:
In post 5852, Nachomamma8 wrote:As in, the correct response when role information directly contradicts your reads isn't "oh, I guess my reads are right and lolcabdgame!"
But it seems so implausible that AP is acting the way he has been and is actually town.
That and Mastin's read. Unless AP is doing a mega-troll on us and thought "hey, let me play to my scum-meta to troll Mastin and also spend a ton of time accusing obvtown of being scum, that should be fun, fun, fun!"
"But it's a really strong read!"
But it is so unlikely Mastin was wrong.
Mastin was town.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:46 am
by Breakfast With Sandy
In post 5859, Just Sheep Us wrote:
In post 5838, Just Sheep Us wrote:ap
stalin
falcon
nacho
titan
peregrinev
i really believe that if the 6 of us realize that we're all town this game is solved
I can roll with this for now.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:47 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 5861, PeregrineV wrote:This is true. Maybe you could explain, like Stalin, why it in not in the Town's best interest for you to claim.
I can explain a few possibilities for our role.

1) Triggered Untargetable: Nonkilling roles target us, we become untargetable by any other actions.
2) Commuter (limited or full)
3) Ascetic
4) One-Shot Commuter, other goodies elsewhere

All of these mean that scum have to deal with our role differently. It's obviously useless for them to burn rolecop/roleblocker on me if I'm a full commuter or Ascetic, might be a consideration for a kill based on other goodies, etc. etc. etc.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:47 am
by Just Sheep Us
In post 5867, AngryPidgeon wrote:Desperado, why are you townreading F16? I'm willing to listen. I mean I know I'm based on this but I just can't believe someone is capable of being this hypocritical and self assured. Plus the emotion at the beginning of today was sso out of place.
if you have time read big brother and don't spoil yourself. then come back at lylo and tell us who you would put up for eviction.

falcon has been insanely transparent all game in thread and in the neighborhood and the way he claimed miller was really town (mostly a bro point)