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In post 5870, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 5865, Cephrir wrote:Desp is not playing like he did in NY 164, and they are overall very needlessly hostile (literally textbook what I do as scum. There is actually a textbook.)

I take it you were just bullshitting when I addressed this earlier and you said it was a moot point?

- Des

I said that you being scum because you were hostile in this game and not that one was a moot point but nonetheless a) your hydra is still needlessly hostile and b) you are not playing like you. Those points are simply not related anymore.

It seems remarkable that three people were online on a Sunday afternoon between 4 and 6?

Are you fucking serious right now Nacho?

- Des

In post 5875, Cephrir wrote:I said that you being scum because you were hostile in this game and not that one was a moot point but nonetheless a) your hydra is still needlessly hostile and b) you are not playing like you. Those points are simply not related anymore.

Is there anything else to your meta read beyond Maniacal?

- Des

In post 5874, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 5867, Nautilius wrote:1) they didn't have a chance to comment because we lynched quadz.i ask you again why it makes them scum.

I'm done. Borden said we shouldn't put off the Quadz/SD 1v1 on p150 and Quadz got lynched on p158. That was four days where marble posted nothing and all Empire managed to produce was...three town cases on Ben, AGar, and you.

- Des

Point to you. Why does it make them town?

Scum*

In post 5876, Messiah Complex wrote:It seems remarkable that three people were online on a Sunday afternoon between 4 and 6?

Are you fucking serious right now Nacho?

- Des

And all chose to vote the TA counter wagon at the same time. Do you disagree? Is that just a normal thing for you to see and not at all worthy of comment?

In post 5877, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 5875, Cephrir wrote:I said that you being scum because you were hostile in this game and not that one was a moot point but nonetheless a) your hydra is still needlessly hostile and b) you are not playing like you. Those points are simply not related anymore.

Is there anything else to your meta read beyond Maniacal?

- Des

Have I played with you elsewhere that I am forgetting?

In post 5880, Nautilius wrote:

In post 5876, Messiah Complex wrote:It seems remarkable that three people were online on a Sunday afternoon between 4 and 6?

Are you fucking serious right now Nacho?

- Des

And all chose to vote the TA counter wagon at the same time. Do you disagree? Is that just a normal thing for you to see and not at all worthy of comment?

Just like what has happened 5 effing times~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It's cumulative. They avoided the Quadz lynch while saying we shouldn't put it off. They avoided the Spyrex wagon like the plague. They pushed Thor and Amrun. They hammered PnJ prematurely and then doubled down on Goat the next day. They turned on Kanye (a super townread pretty much all game). And they did the same to Garruk yesterday.

I don't care how pretty Empire's words were the first three days. They have done NOTHING to contribute to a town win condition despite being universally townread for the first six days (I swear to god I've already typed those words before), so

- Des

In post 5880, Nautilius wrote:And all chose to vote the TA counter wagon at the same time. Do you disagree? Is that just a normal thing for you to see and not at all worthy of comment?

When "at the same time" essentially means "when Borden's lynch finally appeared to be a potential outcome and not a pipe dream" then yeah, I think it's totally normal and not worth commenting on.

- Des

In post 5881, Cephrir wrote:

In post 5877, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 5875, Cephrir wrote:I said that you being scum because you were hostile in this game and not that one was a moot point but nonetheless a) your hydra is still needlessly hostile and b) you are not playing like you. Those points are simply not related anymore.

Is there anything else to your meta read beyond Maniacal?

- Des

Have I played with you elsewhere that I am forgetting?

Exactly my point.

Have you even bothered to look at any of my other games to confirm that "this isn't me?"

PS that was rhetorical. I know you haven't.

- Des

Avoided the quadz lynch: how was this scummy? I could see how it would be scummy if they defended him or tried to put his lynch, but they didn't do either of these things. Sure, they didn't talk about the spyrex lynch! I also pushed Thor and Amrun, neither of those things are points. They hammered chesskid and Dan when they were going to get lynched. They hammered Goat when he was going to get lynched. They turned on Kanye and garruk when there were claimed guiltes on both of them, so how the hell is that a point against them?

You can discredit the actual town case on them and call it pretty words if you'd like, but holy shit it's more than that as is documented in thread.

In post 5884, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 5880, Nautilius wrote:And all chose to vote the TA counter wagon at the same time. Do you disagree? Is that just a normal thing for you to see and not at all worthy of comment?

When "at the same time" essentially means "when Borden's lynch finally appeared to be a potential outcome and not a pipe dream" then yeah, I think it's totally normal and not worth commenting on.

- Des

Because Benmage voted? Even though Benmage was figured into the "people who would vote Alfred" pile all along?

In post 5886, Nautilius wrote:Avoided the quadz lynch: how was this scummy? I could see how it would be scummy if they defended him or tried to put his lynch, but they didn't do either of these things. Sure, they didn't talk about the spyrex lynch! I also pushed Thor and Amrun, neither of those things are points. They hammered chesskid and Dan when they were going to get lynched. They hammered Goat when he was going to get lynched. They turned on Kanye and garruk when there were claimed guiltes on both of them, so how the hell is that a point against them?

You can discredit the actual town case on them and call it pretty words if you'd like, but holy shit it's more than that as is documented in thread.

You are so lost.

- Des

Why? Because I'm asking you to put down a case on Alfred that's more than "they have been lurking for a long time"? Have you even checked Llamarbles other games to see how often he posts? Didn't you noticed how he lurked the hell out of Wingate despite having god-tier reads?

In post 5887, Nautilius wrote:

In post 5884, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 5880, Nautilius wrote:And all chose to vote the TA counter wagon at the same time. Do you disagree? Is that just a normal thing for you to see and not at all worthy of comment?

When "at the same time" essentially means "when Borden's lynch finally appeared to be a potential outcome and not a pipe dream" then yeah, I think it's totally normal and not worth commenting on.

- Des

Because Benmage voted? Even though Benmage was figured into the "people who would vote Alfred" pile all along?

I had already said we had 4 votes. All it took was a wildcard vote from Alch to get him to L-1.

So yes, because Benmage voted and removed the inertia obstacle.

Not to mention they haven't lurked. You currently have 10 more posts than them, and you have only really started posting today. What's your excuse for falling behind?

In post 5889, Nautilius wrote:Why? Because I'm asking you to put down a case on Alfred that's more than "they have been lurking for a long time"? Have you even checked Llamarbles other games to see how often he posts? Didn't you noticed how he lurked the hell out of Wingate despite having god-tier reads?

Marble got me lynched! If he hadn't been a bug in your ear that whispered "desp is scum" every 50 posts I would not have been run up at deadline.

And then he got murdered because he was such a threat. Marble's performance in Wingate plays a significant part in my scumread on them this game. I have already mentioned this.

PEdit: What does lurking have to do with it? I didn't bring that up, you did.

- Des

In post 5890, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 5887, Nautilius wrote:

In post 5884, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 5880, Nautilius wrote:And all chose to vote the TA counter wagon at the same time. Do you disagree? Is that just a normal thing for you to see and not at all worthy of comment?

When "at the same time" essentially means "when Borden's lynch finally appeared to be a potential outcome and not a pipe dream" then yeah, I think it's totally normal and not worth commenting on.

- Des

Because Benmage voted? Even though Benmage was figured into the "people who would vote Alfred" pile all along?

I had already said we had 4 votes. All it took was a wildcard vote from Alch to get him to L-1.

So yes, because Benmage voted and removed the inertia obstacle.

The "inertia obstacle". You weren't talking about that before. You were talking about how you didn't have enough for a majority.

In post 5891, Nautilius wrote:Not to mention they haven't lurked. You currently have 10 more posts than them,

and you have only really started posting today

. What's your excuse for falling behind?

And the bold is a straight up lie.

Naut, Alch, Borden, Magua.

You're welcome.

- Des

In post 5893, Nautilius wrote:The "inertia obstacle". You weren't talking about that before. You were talking about how you didn't have enough for a majority.

Right, which is why our vote was on Alchemist. The inertia being "who is going to be the first one to move off of this stalling Alchemist wagon."

- Des

In post 5892, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 5889, Nautilius wrote:Why? Because I'm asking you to put down a case on Alfred that's more than "they have been lurking for a long time"? Have you even checked Llamarbles other games to see how often he posts? Didn't you noticed how he lurked the hell out of Wingate despite having god-tier reads?

Marble got me lynched! If he hadn't been a bug in your ear that whispered "desp is scum" every 50 posts I would not have been run up at deadline.

And then he got murdered because he was such a threat. Marble's performance in Wingate plays a significant part in my scumread on them this game. I have already mentioned this.

PEdit: What does lurking have to do with it? I didn't bring that up, you did.

- Des

He had correct reads. He didn't post that much. Explain the significant difference between his play there and his play here one more time?

In post 5894, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 5891, Nautilius wrote:Not to mention they haven't lurked. You currently have 10 more posts than them,

and you have only really started posting today

. What's your excuse for falling behind?

And the bold is a straight up lie.

Naut, Alch, Borden, Magua.

You're welcome.

- Des

You think Alch is bussing Borden?

And no, it's not. Your posting levels are significantly higher today than they have been any other day except for the day you pushed spyrex.

In post 5895, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 5893, Nautilius wrote:The "inertia obstacle". You weren't talking about that before. You were talking about how you didn't have enough for a majority.

Right, which is why our vote was on Alchemist. The inertia being "who is going to be the first one to move off of this stalling Alchemist wagon."

- Des

And you couldn't have switched... Why? And why didn't you open up voting Borden?