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Its not like its hard to point at a bunch of other people that also want Mastina dead and name them your likely co-conspirators. Or point at a bunch of other people that are in on the "bus mastina to make the rest look good"-plan

In post 5861, Firebringer wrote:creature has been lying.

This sentence is a lie.

ffs we can't settle on a gladiate target

Just do Firebringer

northsidegal and mastina have been all about boycotting thrir scumreaders

Okay jjh still town

Vecna too

In post 5839, Firebringer wrote:i am going to full claim right now because 1) i haven't even used my role all game 2) to give scum more information because i am pro scum

i am maid cafe barrista
i am a temporary neighborizer. I need to pick someone at end of day and then they come to my "cafe". this has only happened once in the game when beeboy/maria i guess invited jjh. (probably the stupid reason he tr me earlier)
Everyone i neighbourize will be able to choose to take limited watcher, tracker, or voyeur actions until all have been taken, then the availability resets. You will perform these actions, but not receive the results: your customer will receive the results directly.

i am sided with the town.

Oh just saw this

In post 5873, NicoRobin wrote:

In post 5870, jjh927 wrote:Do note that you have argued that she would be scum for gladiating you and also that she would be scum for refusing to gladiate you

No, I only argued that she would be scum for refusing to gladiate me.

Come think of it, you only included two options: she either succeeds or fails.

But there is a third possibility: she doesn't gladiate me at all. What happens with your analysis if this option were to occur?

I literally quoted a post where you said she would be confirmed as scum if she gladiated you. No gaslighting please.

Option 3 is where we are now- where I will keep going from until we reach either option 1 or 2.

In post 5873, NicoRobin wrote:

In post 5870, jjh927 wrote:Do note that you have argued that she would be scum for gladiating you and also that she would be scum for refusing to gladiate you

No, I only argued that she would be scum for refusing to gladiate me.

Come think of it, you only included two options: she either succeeds or fails.

But there is a third possibility: she doesn't gladiate me at all. What happens with your analysis if this option were to occur?

I literally quoted a post where you said she would be confirmed as scum if she gladiated you. No gaslighting please.

Option 3 is where we are now- where I will keep going from until we reach either option 1 or 2.

NR is town through mastina

Hence why I need mastina to obvtown

I keep speculating if RC would create that annoying role

but I think we're just doing it wrong

Why is Jingle town again?

In post 5874, NicoRobin wrote:Because for someone who claims to know everything, you are way too quick to discard some possibilities if they don't fit in with your views.

I propose this: ignore my existence for a day or two (irl) and focus on finding my partners, which should be easy, given how clever you deem yourself to be and how adamant you are that I am scum. If you can find them and if I am unable to counter your arguments on a decent level, then you can lynch me. I'll even sheep you. How about that, jjh? If you are that sure of yourself, then you will seize this opportunity for a free lynch on me.

I agree I'm quick to discard possibilities but I tend to have good reasoning and accuracy for it. For the more important things relying on lots of assumptions I do recognise that they were reasoned on assumptions and so could well be wrong, however an individual such assumption is often negligible.

Your alignment being confirmed one way or the other would help greatly in me finding scum regardless of what you actually turn out to be. I do not intend to let you hang about. If I ignore you, you will still be there at the endgane whether or not you are scum, because scum would never nightkill you. If you get confscummed you will be lynched. If you get conftowned you will actually be useful as a rolecop, and furthermore might not make it to the endgame because scum need to kill off conftowns. You are not offering a "free lynch" on yourself. This is bartering. I don't make deals with mafia

In post 5889, jjh927 wrote:

In post 5874, NicoRobin wrote:Because for someone who claims to know everything, you are way too quick to discard some possibilities if they don't fit in with your views.

I propose this: ignore my existence for a day or two (irl) and focus on finding my partners, which should be easy, given how clever you deem yourself to be and how adamant you are that I am scum. If you can find them and if I am unable to counter your arguments on a decent level, then you can lynch me. I'll even sheep you. How about that, jjh? If you are that sure of yourself, then you will seize this opportunity for a free lynch on me.

I agree I'm quick to discard possibilities but I tend to have good reasoning and accuracy for it. For the more important things relying on lots of assumptions I do recognise that they were reasoned on assumptions and so could well be wrong, however an individual such assumption is often negligible.

Your alignment being confirmed one way or the other would help greatly in me finding scum regardless of what you actually turn out to be. I do not intend to let you hang about. If I ignore you, you will still be there at the endgane whether or not you are scum, because scum would never nightkill you. If you get confscummed you will be lynched. If you get conftowned you will actually be useful as a rolecop, and furthermore might not make it to the endgame because scum need to kill off conftowns. You are not offering a "free lynch" on yourself. This is bartering. I don't make deals with mafia

So what you are saying is that you are willing to lose the game just so you can lynch me. Good to know.

We could gladiate MEME MEN who aren't doing anything

In post 5889, jjh927 wrote:

In post 5874, NicoRobin wrote:Because for someone who claims to know everything, you are way too quick to discard some possibilities if they don't fit in with your views.

I propose this: ignore my existence for a day or two (irl) and focus on finding my partners, which should be easy, given how clever you deem yourself to be and how adamant you are that I am scum. If you can find them and if I am unable to counter your arguments on a decent level, then you can lynch me. I'll even sheep you. How about that, jjh? If you are that sure of yourself, then you will seize this opportunity for a free lynch on me.

I agree I'm quick to discard possibilities but I tend to have good reasoning and accuracy for it. For the more important things relying on lots of assumptions I do recognise that they were reasoned on assumptions and so could well be wrong, however an individual such assumption is often negligible.

Your alignment being confirmed one way or the other would help greatly in me finding scum regardless of what you actually turn out to be. I do not intend to let you hang about. If I ignore you, you will still be there at the endgane whether or not you are scum, because scum would never nightkill you. If you get confscummed you will be lynched. If you get conftowned you will actually be useful as a rolecop, and furthermore might not make it to the endgame because scum need to kill off conftowns. You are not offering a "free lynch" on yourself. This is bartering. I don't make deals with mafia

That still doesn't explain what happens to your little theory if she refuses to gladiate me/chooses to gladiate someone else......

You are still ignoring that part......

I should really stop because you're saying the same misrepresentative bullshit in response to the answers to that bullshit

In post 5893, jjh927 wrote:I should really stop because you're saying the same misrepresentative bullshit in response to the answers to that bullshit

No, you never gave the real answer to that question. You kept yapping about how she will confirm my alignment one way or another, but never outright said what if she doesn't.

But whatever. I can't make you see reason, so enjoy getting endgamed by mastina, I guess.

Bottom line: jjh is either so stupidly confident it would cost him the game or he is scum with mastina, trying to protect his buddy till the bitter end, while said partner is buddying me.

And since jjh won't answer me, maybe some of you more reasonable folks could. What would happen if mastina refuses to gladiate me/gladiates someone else?

And then when I least expect it, mastina would turn around and lynch me. Mastina and jjh think they are playing me like a fiddle and are relying on my reputation to hang that noose around my neck.

But I shall not let them. Me from 1936 and New Year's Upick is back, and I shall expose them, or at least one of them, as the scum that they are.

In post 5870, jjh927 wrote:Do note that you have argued that she would be scum for gladiating you and also that she would be scum for refusing to gladiate you

1. Yes, she would be scum for gladiating me because it would prove that she lied about her role
2. She would refuse to gladiate me because she fears the possibility of #1 happening.

So, let me ask you everyone: in what universe is town jjh willing to protect mastina at all costs, even if that would mean the loss of his faction?

Can mastina just gladiate someone?