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Post Post #5875 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:48 am

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A broken clock is right twice a day.

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Post Post #5876 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:50 am

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In post 5873, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 5871, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 5870, Sakura Hana wrote:Discrediting a correct read.
what read were correct?
The one on you.
Thats circular logic and its Alisae's who wanted to bring RC's read back when they are proven inaccurate. Do you expect me to not discredit a read that implies i am mafia?

I don't believe you fos me for that and you are covering for the irrationality behind your vote. Play for your win con
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Post Post #5877 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:50 am

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In post 5874, Rautherdir wrote:VOTE: RedPanda
You know what, I'm just going to go with the original plan of lynching through Fish and Panda to catch the last Aeon.
With all your Mason Hard-ons, you can finally follow a Mason with peace of mind guys.

Yeah I shouldve just ignored the visit. Sakura BGing was a coincidence. Panda is the likely one here.
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Post Post #5878 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:51 am

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In post 5876, CloudKicker wrote:Play for your win con
I am dude, you've been off like the entire game, you've been SR by supposedly good scumhunters the entire game and somehow you're still living.
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Post Post #5879 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:52 am

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I am going to explain the way I played this
it will sound like bullshit to most people
in fact, I think no one is going to believe it
but I know how I play
I know my strengths and my weaknesses

I know I am good at figuring out the game when its significantly later into the game
I wanted to hide behind Dunn's reads for a bit mostly because the points of the game where I'm not good at mafia, he is.
I had the full intention of getting my shit together if he were to die.

I have this philosophy that I've seen in my own scumplay and that I see in others that
when you read mid/late game, you have a plan figured out as scum, and you want to follow that plan and not deviate course
Scum at this point are usually pretty townread and can just get away with it because they played well early.
But this is where scum stop playing well and just because really obvious
and THAT is where you catch them.

I've for the longest time wanted to test out replacing into a super big game, not doing anything, not reading the game, being useless for as long as possible, just to see what happens.

Again, this sounds like bullshit, but I consider this experimental so yeah ofc its wacky

If I were to explain why Cloudie is scum it would probably have to be
1) Well you can't go wrong with RC late game. Cloudie can say his reads were shit all he wants, thats what he has to do. But the fact still stands, many times do people not go over RC's iso late game and decide "I am going to follow this." It doesn't really happen most people don't think to do it. So wynaut try it?
2) His claim is bullshit and even if it was true, its a decently safe scum fakeclaim
3) his posts this day phase are awful and I think definitely come across as agenda based
4) I think scum are more likely to try to put me on the table as a viable push if I play this way. I feel like scum are more likely to fake frustration over how someone is playing because they can turn that into an easy push where as town I think would just focus on what they're currently wortking on. When I started to play this way, Cloudie saw a chance and he took it. I think he's scum for it.

I really consider reading cloudie's day play this phase (or reading the game backwards if you want to), and looking into this yourself without any prior knowledge of what happened and forgetting your previous reads.

I don't think lynching me is wrong, I'm okay with it
but cloudie is scum
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Post Post #5880 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:53 am

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In post 5878, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 5876, CloudKicker wrote:Play for your win con
I am dude, you've been off like the entire game, you've been SR by supposedly good scumhunters the entire game and somehow you're still living.
Hm okay, so what? Maybe because I am town

The sr on me were bad
It was assumed uwnd and I were SvsS & that i say fuck a lot, please lmao
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Post Post #5881 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 5879, Alisae wrote:1) Well you can't go wrong with RC late game. Cloudie can say his reads were shit all he wants, thats what he has to do. But the fact still stands, many times do people not go over RC's iso late game and decide "I am going to follow this." It doesn't really happen most people don't think to do it. So wynaut try it?
I made the mistake of not double checking RC's reads in fallout mafia, never again.
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Post Post #5882 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:57 am

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In post 5881, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 5879, Alisae wrote:1) Well you can't go wrong with RC late game. Cloudie can say his reads were shit all he wants, thats what he has to do. But the fact still stands, many times do people not go over RC's iso late game and decide "I am going to follow this." It doesn't really happen most people don't think to do it. So wynaut try it?
I made the mistake of not double checking RC's reads in fallout mafia, never again.
oh you're not the only one
Night and Day? whatever that mastina game was that I won a scummy for
Town didn't follow RC's reads
RC was perfect that game
what happened?
town loss

this happens to RC a lot, people don't think to follow his reads
so I think you can't really go wrong with following RC
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Post Post #5883 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:00 am

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In post 5879, Alisae wrote: 1) Well you can't go wrong with RC late game. Cloudie can say his reads were shit all he wants, thats what he has to do. But the fact still stands, many times do people not go over RC's iso late game and decide "I am going to follow this." It doesn't really happen most people don't think to do it. So wynaut try it?
2) His claim is bullshit and even if it was true, its a decently safe scum fakeclaim
3) his posts this day phase are awful and I think definitely come across as agenda based
4) I think scum are more likely to try to put me on the table as a viable push if I play this way. I feel like scum are more likely to fake frustration over how someone is playing because they can turn that into an easy push where as town I think would just focus on what they're currently wortking on. When I started to play this way, Cloudie saw a chance and he took it. I think he's scum for it.
Maybe if you read anything you would be more relevant

1) RC's read on me was that I HAD SvsS INTERACTIONS WITH A TOWN SLOT. His read had a false premise and it was WRONG. His reads were inaccurate this game, theres nothing more to add

2) I claimed the first in the whole goddam setup and I projected my role more than anyone d1, again if you read you would know. Yes its a safe fakeclaim, so what? Doesn't makes it any less of a town claim either

3)Agenda based? I didn't even vote ANYONE today and I just basically shaded you/bambi/RP. You think thats agenda based ? what about you changing your whole playstyle when you are caught visiting a BP w/ no kill

4) You are the most obvious mechanically sound lynch today with bambi's claim, you should be very well aware of that. Anyone not considering you as mafia means they already knows your alignement.
The rest of your line is pretty bad; the moment you tried to put up content you just proven how irrelevant you were
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Post Post #5884 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:01 am

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In post 5883, CloudKicker wrote:1) RC's read on me was that I HAD SvsS INTERACTIONS WITH A TOWN SLOT. His read had a false premise and it was WRONG. His reads were inaccurate this game, theres nothing more to add
"Oh hey, he was wrong on a read, so ill use that to discredit his read on me"
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Post Post #5885 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:01 am

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And if aything
IF ANYTHING
he said YOU WERE SCUM IF UNWND FLIPPED TOWN FFS
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Post Post #5886 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:02 am

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In post 1855, Celestial Coordinates wrote:If this is town it's like [bambi jay, primate,
CK
, unknown]
Dont pretend you cant read.
So stop your BS with your associative read thing.
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Post Post #5887 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:02 am

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In post 5884, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 5883, CloudKicker wrote:1) RC's read on me was that I HAD SvsS INTERACTIONS WITH A TOWN SLOT. His read had a false premise and it was WRONG. His reads were inaccurate this game, theres nothing more to add
"Oh hey, he was wrong on a read, so ill use that to discredit his read on me"
Said Cloudkicker with confidence.
It doesnt mean his other read have any more change at being right than any fucking read on the read of the table lmao, blinded fangirl who cant think for herself
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Post Post #5888 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:03 am

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In post 5886, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1855, Celestial Coordinates wrote:If this is town it's like [bambi jay, primate,
CK
, unknown]
Dont pretend you cant read.
So stop your BS with your associative read thing.
He explained his reads, not in his scumpool. If you even tried to read the game you would know. You have been pushing reads from others players you dont even understand about
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Post Post #5889 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:03 am

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In post 5887, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 5884, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 5883, CloudKicker wrote:1) RC's read on me was that I HAD SvsS INTERACTIONS WITH A TOWN SLOT. His read had a false premise and it was WRONG. His reads were inaccurate this game, theres nothing more to add
"Oh hey, he was wrong on a read, so ill use that to discredit his read on me"
Said Cloudkicker with confidence.
It doesnt mean his other read have any more change at being right than any fucking read on the read of the table lmao, blinded fangirl who cant think for herself
Oh i AM thinking and i see discredit of dead people right here right now.
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Post Post #5890 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:04 am

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Jeez, thats not even AI. You should push me for claiming mafia like 3 times this game over bringing up stupid shit reads from dead slots
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Post Post #5891 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:05 am

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In post 5890, CloudKicker wrote:Jeez, thats not even AI. You should push me for claiming mafia like 3 times this game over bringing up stupid shit reads from dead slots
Why does this sound like something I would say? God I townread it for that.

Guys. Get Panda.
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Post Post #5892 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:05 am

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In post 5883, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 5879, Alisae wrote: 1) Well you can't go wrong with RC late game. Cloudie can say his reads were shit all he wants, thats what he has to do. But the fact still stands, many times do people not go over RC's iso late game and decide "I am going to follow this." It doesn't really happen most people don't think to do it. So wynaut try it?
2) His claim is bullshit and even if it was true, its a decently safe scum fakeclaim
3) his posts this day phase are awful and I think definitely come across as agenda based
4) I think scum are more likely to try to put me on the table as a viable push if I play this way. I feel like scum are more likely to fake frustration over how someone is playing because they can turn that into an easy push where as town I think would just focus on what they're currently wortking on. When I started to play this way, Cloudie saw a chance and he took it. I think he's scum for it.
Maybe if you read anything you would be more relevant

1) RC's read on me was that I HAD SvsS INTERACTIONS WITH A TOWN SLOT. His read had a false premise and it was WRONG. His reads were inaccurate this game, theres nothing more to add

2) I claimed the first in the whole goddam setup and I projected my role more than anyone d1, again if you read you would know. Yes its a safe fakeclaim, so what? Doesn't makes it any less of a town claim either

3)Agenda based? I didn't even vote ANYONE today and I just basically shaded you/bambi/RP. You think thats agenda based ? what about you changing your whole playstyle when you are caught visiting a BP w/ no kill

4) You are the most obvious mechanically sound lynch today with bambi's claim, you should be very well aware of that. Anyone not considering you as mafia means they already knows your alignement.
The rest of your line is pretty bad; the moment you tried to put up content you just proven how irrelevant you were
all anyone has to do is think if they were in your position (and scum) and they were pushed with this exact push
how would they respond do it?
Because I'm pretty sure the responses would be very similar

either way dude, you're just trying to make me sound irrelevant, thats fine, thats what you gotta do
you're still scum

I can still address your 4th point tho
are you gonna throw out everything you've said about my slot since I replaced in?
You continued to put it up on the table and saying that I deserved it
what was everyone else doing?
they were pressuring the other slots
but you continue to pressure my slot a lot and leave it on the table
its more likely that you're scum for doing that then town
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Post Post #5893 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:07 am

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@Sakuara ; What about Fish townreading me ? And Gamma? Gamma was correct on OS so he MUST be correct on his other reads right
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Post Post #5894 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:08 am

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In post 5893, CloudKicker wrote:@Sakuara ; What about Fish townreading me ? And Gamma? Gamma was correct on OS so he MUST be correct on his other reads right
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Post Post #5895 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:10 am

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In post 5892, Alisae wrote:
In post 5883, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 5879, Alisae wrote: 1) Well you can't go wrong with RC late game. Cloudie can say his reads were shit all he wants, thats what he has to do. But the fact still stands, many times do people not go over RC's iso late game and decide "I am going to follow this." It doesn't really happen most people don't think to do it. So wynaut try it?
2) His claim is bullshit and even if it was true, its a decently safe scum fakeclaim
3) his posts this day phase are awful and I think definitely come across as agenda based
4) I think scum are more likely to try to put me on the table as a viable push if I play this way. I feel like scum are more likely to fake frustration over how someone is playing because they can turn that into an easy push where as town I think would just focus on what they're currently wortking on. When I started to play this way, Cloudie saw a chance and he took it. I think he's scum for it.
Maybe if you read anything you would be more relevant

1) RC's read on me was that I HAD SvsS INTERACTIONS WITH A TOWN SLOT. His read had a false premise and it was WRONG. His reads were inaccurate this game, theres nothing more to add

2) I claimed the first in the whole goddam setup and I projected my role more than anyone d1, again if you read you would know. Yes its a safe fakeclaim, so what? Doesn't makes it any less of a town claim either

3)Agenda based? I didn't even vote ANYONE today and I just basically shaded you/bambi/RP. You think thats agenda based ? what about you changing your whole playstyle when you are caught visiting a BP w/ no kill

4) You are the most obvious mechanically sound lynch today with bambi's claim, you should be very well aware of that. Anyone not considering you as mafia means they already knows your alignement.
The rest of your line is pretty bad; the moment you tried to put up content you just proven how irrelevant you were
all anyone has to do is think if they were in your position (and scum) and they were pushed with this exact push
how would they respond do it?
Because I'm pretty sure the responses would be very similar

either way dude, you're just trying to make me sound irrelevant, thats fine, thats what you gotta do
you're still scum

I can still address your 4th point tho
are you gonna throw out everything you've said about my slot since I replaced in?
You continued to put it up on the table and saying that I deserved it
what was everyone else doing?
they were pressuring the other slots
but you continue to pressure my slot a lot and leave it on the table
its more likely that you're scum for doing that then town
What the fuck, you are the lynch dont you get it? You were tracked to a fucking BP claim, how is that scummy to consider ure scum for it? You must training for the Olympics with density of mental gymnastic per square inches of your posts
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Post Post #5896 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:10 am

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In post 5895, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 5892, Alisae wrote:
In post 5883, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 5879, Alisae wrote: 1) Well you can't go wrong with RC late game. Cloudie can say his reads were shit all he wants, thats what he has to do. But the fact still stands, many times do people not go over RC's iso late game and decide "I am going to follow this." It doesn't really happen most people don't think to do it. So wynaut try it?
2) His claim is bullshit and even if it was true, its a decently safe scum fakeclaim
3) his posts this day phase are awful and I think definitely come across as agenda based
4) I think scum are more likely to try to put me on the table as a viable push if I play this way. I feel like scum are more likely to fake frustration over how someone is playing because they can turn that into an easy push where as town I think would just focus on what they're currently wortking on. When I started to play this way, Cloudie saw a chance and he took it. I think he's scum for it.
Maybe if you read anything you would be more relevant

1) RC's read on me was that I HAD SvsS INTERACTIONS WITH A TOWN SLOT. His read had a false premise and it was WRONG. His reads were inaccurate this game, theres nothing more to add

2) I claimed the first in the whole goddam setup and I projected my role more than anyone d1, again if you read you would know. Yes its a safe fakeclaim, so what? Doesn't makes it any less of a town claim either

3)Agenda based? I didn't even vote ANYONE today and I just basically shaded you/bambi/RP. You think thats agenda based ? what about you changing your whole playstyle when you are caught visiting a BP w/ no kill

4) You are the most obvious mechanically sound lynch today with bambi's claim, you should be very well aware of that. Anyone not considering you as mafia means they already knows your alignement.
The rest of your line is pretty bad; the moment you tried to put up content you just proven how irrelevant you were
all anyone has to do is think if they were in your position (and scum) and they were pushed with this exact push
how would they respond do it?
Because I'm pretty sure the responses would be very similar

either way dude, you're just trying to make me sound irrelevant, thats fine, thats what you gotta do
you're still scum

I can still address your 4th point tho
are you gonna throw out everything you've said about my slot since I replaced in?
You continued to put it up on the table and saying that I deserved it
what was everyone else doing?
they were pressuring the other slots
but you continue to pressure my slot a lot and leave it on the table
its more likely that you're scum for doing that then town
What the fuck, you are the lynch dont you get it? You were tracked to a fucking BP claim, how is that scummy to consider ure scum for it? You must training for the Olympics with density of mental gymnastic per square inches of your posts
what does that have to do with you being scum?
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Post Post #5897 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:11 am

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In post 5894, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 5893, CloudKicker wrote:@Sakuara ; What about Fish townreading me ? And Gamma? Gamma was correct on OS so he MUST be correct on his other reads right
Deflection.
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Thats not deflection, its me applying the same "logic" to other pieces of information in this game to show you thats your "logic" used should not be. Also this is confirmation bias since you are only using the information that gives you the answer you want; you don't take into consideration other dead's slots reads, only the one fosing me
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Post Post #5898 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:12 am

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In post 5896, Alisae wrote:
In post 5895, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 5892, Alisae wrote:
In post 5883, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 5879, Alisae wrote: 1) Well you can't go wrong with RC late game. Cloudie can say his reads were shit all he wants, thats what he has to do. But the fact still stands, many times do people not go over RC's iso late game and decide "I am going to follow this." It doesn't really happen most people don't think to do it. So wynaut try it?
2) His claim is bullshit and even if it was true, its a decently safe scum fakeclaim
3) his posts this day phase are awful and I think definitely come across as agenda based
4) I think scum are more likely to try to put me on the table as a viable push if I play this way. I feel like scum are more likely to fake frustration over how someone is playing because they can turn that into an easy push where as town I think would just focus on what they're currently wortking on. When I started to play this way, Cloudie saw a chance and he took it. I think he's scum for it.
Maybe if you read anything you would be more relevant

1) RC's read on me was that I HAD SvsS INTERACTIONS WITH A TOWN SLOT. His read had a false premise and it was WRONG. His reads were inaccurate this game, theres nothing more to add

2) I claimed the first in the whole goddam setup and I projected my role more than anyone d1, again if you read you would know. Yes its a safe fakeclaim, so what? Doesn't makes it any less of a town claim either

3)Agenda based? I didn't even vote ANYONE today and I just basically shaded you/bambi/RP. You think thats agenda based ? what about you changing your whole playstyle when you are caught visiting a BP w/ no kill

4) You are the most obvious mechanically sound lynch today with bambi's claim, you should be very well aware of that. Anyone not considering you as mafia means they already knows your alignement.
The rest of your line is pretty bad; the moment you tried to put up content you just proven how irrelevant you were
all anyone has to do is think if they were in your position (and scum) and they were pushed with this exact push
how would they respond do it?
Because I'm pretty sure the responses would be very similar

either way dude, you're just trying to make me sound irrelevant, thats fine, thats what you gotta do
you're still scum

I can still address your 4th point tho
are you gonna throw out everything you've said about my slot since I replaced in?
You continued to put it up on the table and saying that I deserved it
what was everyone else doing?
they were pressuring the other slots
but you continue to pressure my slot a lot and leave it on the table
its more likely that you're scum for doing that then town
What the fuck, you are the lynch dont you get it? You were tracked to a fucking BP claim, how is that scummy to consider ure scum for it? You must training for the Olympics with density of mental gymnastic per square inches of your posts
what does that have to do with you being scum?
?? You say I am scum for "putting your slot on the table" Which is everything town should be doin ATM, this is what it has to do with you calling me scum. You should understand the POV outside yourself, yet you fos me for doubting you
Cloud is such a clown....prob a town clown, but clown none-the-less - IAI
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Post Post #5899 (ISO) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:13 am

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"Instead of looking at this correct town with an incorrect flipped read, why dont you look at these incorrect towns with correct flipped reads"
Said Cloudie trying to deflect Sakura's attention
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