NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[BROseidon]

Just did some ISOs, and King Crabd's interactions with Shadi look a lot like scum partners. He defends Shadi at every chance he gets, with a few points of 180-ing his read, but then flipping right back for no real reason (like when he asks TK to put Shadi on the vig-list then takes him right back off).

VOTE: Shadi

[penguin_alien]

...and now we wait to see if a two-man Mafia team coordinates the hammering...

[Shadi1337]

are there 3 votes on me atm?
The scenario is 2 mafia 3 villagers (1 of whom, possibly SK??) or The scenario is 1 mafia 4 villagers (1 of whom, possibly SK??)
So let's hope it looks good once you idiots mislynch me for saying Bro shouldn't put himself in his own town pile.

[BROseidon]

That is far from the only reason to vote for you.

[Shadi1337]

be my guest and explain.

[Shadi1337]

and dont bring me the crabd argument, coz first of all

1) Crab doesn't defend his teammates that hard from my experience with him, but that could be my meta argument
2) The 180 turn was "supposed to be his reaction test" and he used that as an excuse/improvised, coz i barely believe that was intention. And no, I don't KNOW, but assume.

[Shadi1337]

you should also look at other people he defended, rift and her reads for instance.

[PeregrineV]

Vote Count 8-2

(as of Post 5906)

AngryPidgeon (1)

- Shadi1337

Shadi1337 (1)

- BROseidon

Not Voting (3)

- AngryPidgeon, JacobSavage, penguin_alien

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch

Deadline:

Friday, October 18, 2013 at 11 am Central Time. ((expired on 2013-10-18 11:01:01))

Replacing:

No one

Prods:

None

V/LAs:

None (except me, LA)

[BROseidon]

The lack of scum trying to coordinate a quickhammer is confirmation to me that I'm right ^_^

[penguin_alien]

Yup, I'm OK with this lynch; question is if we want to help JS figure out who the SK is...

[BROseidon]

I'm pretty sure that it's AP, more so because of his play than Rev's.

[JacobSavage]

Yup, I'm OK with this lynch; question is if we want to help JS figure out who the SK is...

Okay this. Just think about this. Im pretty sure this is a 1:1:3 situation.

So for me to be the last mafiosa and for me supposedly wanting to find the SK, (who is going to last into the night phase by your statemenr) then doesnt that make Shadi not scum so why the hell is it a good lynch?

[penguin_alien]

Why do you think it's 3:1:1? That makes it a four-man scum team against an SK in play and a nicely powered town. Not likely.

[AngryPidgeon]

K

The way BRO has been so gung-ho about Cowbells for reasons I can't really figure out, I'd bet hes the SK we are looking for. Makes sense that he wanted to get rid of the RB so bad.

At that point Im guessing its 3:1:1 and JS or 2:2:1 and JS/Shadi.

JS trying to push a 3:1:1 around is really weird and could be to make votes less meaningful (as far as "X should have been quick hammered if they were town")

VOTE: JS

NVM - just caught up on posts and this one takes the cake:

I dont have a limit on my bpness.
Ive answered the rest of your post already DOMO.
@Serene: You expect me to throw crumbs to the scum, really?

VOTE: Dramonic

L-1

This just screams mafia hedging onto a mislynch.

Ok so I would say Crabd out of that list.

Given what little information we had at the time with any PR flips, this insight from Baezu is dubious as hell.

JS is mafia. Could see it being with Shadi, but on the chance JS is being honest about 3:1:1 I'd hedge on BRO-SK/JS-Maf.

[BROseidon]

The way BRO has been so gung-ho about Cowbells for reasons I can't really figure out, I'd bet hes the SK we are looking for. Makes sense that he wanted to get rid of the RB so bad.

You mean because the claim didn't make sense as town, and his actions looked like SK hunting?

Yeah, real suspect

[penguin_alien]

How does a no-lynch work for us? Forcing scum to shoot a possible SK and an SK to shoot scum? Or does it give scum too much control?

[AngryPidgeon]

I dont possibly see a scenario where no lynch is beneficial.

[AngryPidgeon]

3:1:1, we need to lynch correctly and then again in lylo. If we NL, best case scenario SK hits maf, but f that.

2:2:1 we should be lynching mafia, no reason not to.

[penguin_alien]

K. Then JS, Shadi, who do you two think the SK is?

[JacobSavage]

3:1:1 is what I think it is because honestly given the size of the game its not really that much of a "stacked town"

Yes I could see their being two more goons but personally I think its more likely that we have BP Mafia as well or some other light PR.

[AngryPidgeon]

I think its more likely that we have BP Mafia as well or some other light PR.

And I'm sure there is a great reason for you believing something so specific.

[BROseidon]

I like how JS completely dodges the questions.

[penguin_alien]

Me too; wanna lynch him? (...I disavow all coherency for about twelve hours, loopy PA is loopy...)

[BROseidon]

The way he's trying to push 3:1:1 is scummy (19:4:1? Really? With a town BP and FUNCTIONALLY BP DOCTOR?), and the way he's dodging the question sounds like mafia who either blocked a kill or bounced a kill of a BP SK. It's Shadi/JS, and whichever we lynch is immaterial at this point.

VOTE: JS

[penguin_alien]

Hey Shadi, want to hammer your partner for town cred?