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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:12 pm
by Titus
So he probably isn't lying about his BP status at least.

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:14 pm
by Bulbasaur Commonwealth
Titus wrote:You weren't attempted to be shot at. The only missing kills were lurking wolves. Masons not being shot at is a red flag to me.

Could've tried to shoot the masons.

Titus wrote:Is it really a coincidence that Lucian, someone hard townreading me, would be shot over Death and Boonskiies, investigators who can generate even more confirmed towns to break this game wide open?

That's not a point against them?

Titus wrote:Doctors who always thought of their survival over House that could generate even more conftowns.

Didn't they say before this post they protected Ozgin D2?

Also, Ozgin/House died D3, so...

P-EDIT: NOw you're being stupid.

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:17 pm
by Titus
If it's a delayed nightkill, it shouldn't matter when House died. If he was shot N2 to die D3, then the doc protect should have worked no?

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:26 pm
by God of Power Outlets
no one cares

no one is impressed

shh

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:27 pm
by God of Power Outlets
wait it's still TWILIGHT?

what a stupid fucking mechanic

silly mods and their cute ideas

anyway I'm taking over from here. let's call a truce until votes actually count

-UT

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:30 pm
by Titus
*sshrug* I'll do my VCA and reveal it first thing.

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:31 pm
by Bulbasaur Commonwealth
Titus wrote:If it's a delayed nightkill, it shouldn't matter when House died. If he was shot N2 to die D3, then the doc protect should have worked no?

...If it's a delayed kill, why would it work the day they targeted him?

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:36 pm
by Titus
Bulbasaur Commonwealth wrote:
Titus wrote:If it's a delayed nightkill, it shouldn't matter when House died. If he was shot N2 to die D3, then the doc protect should have worked no?

...If it's a delayed kill, why would it work the day they targeted him?

And if the target is submitted at night, but dies at the end of the following day?

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:38 pm
by Bulbasaur Commonwealth
Titus wrote:And if the target is submitted at night, but dies at the end of the following day?

Is the kill happening that night?

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:39 pm
by Titus
To be clear

Submit kill N2, Doc should heal N2, Vic dies at the end of day 3. That's how I've seen a delayed NK work but it's VERY rare so...

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:40 pm
by Bulbasaur Commonwealth
Unless the doctor specifically protects against the delayed kill, again, why would it save them?

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:44 pm
by Titus
Doctors should protect against all kills in a given night. No one's claimed a specific type of doctor. Generally doctors stop all kills unless otherwise specified.

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:49 pm
by God of Power Outlets
Titus wrote:Doctors should protect against all kills in a given night. No one's claimed a specific type of doctor. Generally doctors stop all kills unless otherwise specified.

In a game with lots of kills flying around, this is generally specified.

IME a doctor only stops one kill

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:50 pm
by Titus
Arguendo, even if I'm wrong and the mafia team submits a day kill to kill someone at the end of the day, thereby bypassing doctor interference, then the fact that the masons did not flip is even more suspicious as scum would not need to worry about a doctor.

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:51 pm
by God of Power Outlets
Titus wrote:To be clear

Submit kill N2, Doc should heal N2, Vic dies at the end of day 3. That's how I've seen a delayed NK work but it's VERY rare so...

in the event of a delayed kill, one generally resolves the kill (and therefore would require a protection) in the phase in which the kill is resolved

this is not true of a poisoner role, but we're not talking about a poisoner

academic setup spec talking out of our ass isn't really doing anyone a lot of good though, so

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:51 pm
by Titus
But the werewolves were lurking, so they didn't even submit a kill under any theory.

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:52 pm
by God of Power Outlets
fucking werewolves

waiting for the moon and shit

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:55 pm
by Bulbasaur Commonwealth
Titus wrote:Arguendo, even if I'm wrong and the mafia team submits a day kill to kill someone at the end of the day, thereby bypassing doctor interference, then the fact that the masons did not flip is even more suspicious as scum would not need to worry about a doctor.

At least, that particular person/faction wouldn't. Any other team/3rd party with a kill would.

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:58 pm
by Titus
Bulbasaur Commonwealth wrote:
Titus wrote:Arguendo, even if I'm wrong and the mafia team submits a day kill to kill someone at the end of the day, thereby bypassing doctor interference, then the fact that the masons did not flip is even more suspicious as scum would not need to worry about a doctor.

At least, that particular person/faction wouldn't. Any other team/3rd party with a kill would.


Right. Logically though TPTG and TF cannot be werewolves or volcanoes, so that's eliminated. Volcanoes incinerate (which has stopped since the orange flipped), werewolves eviserate, which will stop tonight.

That leaves the day flip.

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:02 pm
by Bulbasaur Commonwealth
Titus wrote:Volcanoes incinerate (which has stopped since the orange flipped), werewolves eviserate, which will stop tonight.

Though we don't know if it's because they're gone or if their target was protected.

Or if they targeted me for some reason.

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:03 pm
by God of Power Outlets
you do realize that the remaining faction would need to have 3 players, which it probably doesn't, in order for us to be scum

right?

nah probably not, don't think about it too hard though, keep calling the claimed masons scum

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:06 pm
by Titus
Yes, the remaining faction is the red, which does the day kill.

@Bulba, yes we do. Use common sense.

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:17 pm
by Titus
Those deaths aren't coming back.

The setup is 3/2/2/

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:22 pm
by God of Power Outlets
I'm looking all through the mod's posts and I'm not finding any kind of confirmation on what the alignment distribution is

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:26 pm
by Bulbasaur Commonwealth
Titus wrote:Those deaths aren't coming back.

The setup is 3/2/2/

Oh? And how do you know that?