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Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:17 am
by CarbonFiber
Your attitude towards ending the day feels anti-town as well. You did get a cop confirmed double self-targeting doc mislynched while hurrying along the day phase just like you are doing now. Why are you acting like everything is so clear-cut and expecting no one to be paranoid? The paranoia may not be justified if you are town, but you acting like you don't inspire paranoia feels off.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:18 am
by PeregrineV
In post 5904, AngryPidgeon wrote:Wait wait wait.

How did you get that Carbon is town out of this? All he did is claim the Amnesiac Follower result (nothing). Why does that make him town via role speculation?
He could be scum with Breakfast if she is the Messenger Godfather Rocleblocking Ninja. She could be faking everything, and he could be backing her up.

Do you think that's likely? Not possible, but likely?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:18 am
by AngryPidgeon
In post 5924, Katsuki wrote:If AP is a fakeclaiming beast,
Im really not a beast at fakeclaiming though, its the one part of my scummeta that could use some work. My fakeclaim in Balto invite got me quicklynched. I fortunately didnt have to claim in Social Justice cause I would have fucked that up way back when. I know what you meant by "beast" but I wanted to be witty ^^.

Spoiler:
Now die you scumfuck

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:20 am
by PeregrineV
In post 5924, Katsuki wrote:@Tammy: Anyone can manipulate a neighbourhood... Hell I manipulated 4 heads into thinking I was towntowntown in Team Mafia: AN...

@Pere: If AP is a fakeclaiming beast, he and stalin are not confirmed.

p-edt: wow ninjas to oblivion posted this ages ago
If he is fakeclaiming, he'd have better results with better fake results.

If he didn't delay because of your role, then he is either not a viable target for you, or you were blocked.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:23 am
by AngryPidgeon
In post 5925, CarbonFiber wrote:Your attitude towards ending the day feels anti-town as well. You did get a cop confirmed double self-targeting doc mislynched while hurrying along the day phase just like you are doing now. Why are you acting like everything is so clear-cut and expecting no one to be paranoid? The paranoia may not be justified if you are town, but you acting like you don't inspire paranoia feels off.
I have a philosophical difference about what qualifies as anti-town.

Day 1 lasting over 100 pages is anti-town.
People claiming their roles and trying to get others to claim their roles is anti-town.
Acknowledging a dichotomy between 2 players and then spending days not working towards resolving it is anti-town.

You keep bringing up NY165 and trying to pin it on me here. How is it even remotely comparable? Im typically aggressive/urgent in ALL of my games, read any town game of mine? Im not one to just sit around and waffle all day regardless of my alignment.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:23 am
by PeregrineV
In post 5912, CarbonFiber wrote:
In post 5908, Nachomamma8 wrote:We're not lynching AP today, sorry Falcon.
In post 5910, AngryPidgeon wrote:I feel like Im just being a voice lost in the wind about him.
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I get that we probably won't lynch him over Cupcake considering Desp-BRO seemingly confirming him.

I am talking more about the fact that no one besides AP/Cupcake is going to be lynched today - at all. I find it unlikely this day will end in anything other than Cupcake being lynched.
I disagree. I would prefer one of the other 5.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:25 am
by AngryPidgeon
In post 5926, PeregrineV wrote:He could be scum with Breakfast if she is the Messenger Godfather Rocleblocking Ninja. She could be faking everything, and he could be backing her up.

Do you think that's likely? Not possible, but likely?
What? Stalin is confirmed because I have a PM in my inbox saying they aren't a replica. Im confirmed because JSU was able to track me to stalin last night.

How does CF fit into this?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:27 am
by CarbonFiber
@ PV, I am not seeing how role results confirm me either tbh (although I'm obvtown so).

I am assuming the players you want to lynch are in: Penguin, RG, Fox, Nacho?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:27 am
by AngryPidgeon
@PV: Is your current hypothesis that Cupcake was blocked? So you think there are (3?) anti-town roleblocks in the game or there is (another) town RB in the game who blocked someone (RG??) and isn't stepping forward?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:29 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 5930, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 5912, CarbonFiber wrote:
In post 5908, Nachomamma8 wrote:We're not lynching AP today, sorry Falcon.
In post 5910, AngryPidgeon wrote:I feel like Im just being a voice lost in the wind about him.
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I get that we probably won't lynch him over Cupcake considering Desp-BRO seemingly confirming him.

I am talking more about the fact that no one besides AP/Cupcake is going to be lynched today - at all. I find it unlikely this day will end in anything other than Cupcake being lynched.
I disagree. I would prefer one of the other 5.
Why?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:31 am
by AngryPidgeon
ITT: PV is actually just a mafia 1-shot Janitor Vig. With Katsuki. Book it.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:34 am
by PeregrineV
In post 5931, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 5926, PeregrineV wrote:He could be scum with Breakfast if she is the Messenger Godfather Rocleblocking Ninja. She could be faking everything, and he could be backing her up.

Do you think that's likely? Not possible, but likely?
What? Stalin is confirmed because I have a PM in my inbox saying they aren't a replica. Im confirmed because JSU was able to track me to stalin last night.

How does CF fit into this?
Stalin claimed to have sent Carbon a message with the results from your night1 action. You claimed you went no where. Stalin claimed to follow you, Carbon claims a message that says you went no where.

If Katsuki + Carbon are scum, why oh fucking why does Carbon confirm you did ?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:37 am
by PeregrineV
In post 5935, AngryPidgeon wrote:ITT: PV is actually just a mafia 1-shot Janitor Vig. With Katsuki. Book it.
Nice. If I were, Rancid would never die, Mastin would never die. Look at the complete apathy, chaos and confusion the first 2 days produced. I would never want that to end.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:37 am
by Titan
In post 5936, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 5931, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 5926, PeregrineV wrote:He could be scum with Breakfast if she is the Messenger Godfather Rocleblocking Ninja. She could be faking everything, and he could be backing her up.

Do you think that's likely? Not possible, but likely?
What? Stalin is confirmed because I have a PM in my inbox saying they aren't a replica. Im confirmed because JSU was able to track me to stalin last night.

How does CF fit into this?
Stalin claimed to have sent Carbon a message with the results from your night1 action. You claimed you went no where. Stalin claimed to follow you, Carbon claims a message that says you went no where.

If Katsuki + Carbon are scum, why oh fucking why does Carbon confirm you did ?
Because if AP gets lynched and flips town, they're both toast?

Why would he lie?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:39 am
by PeregrineV
In post 5933, AngryPidgeon wrote:@PV: Is your current hypothesis that Cupcake was blocked? So you think there are (3?) anti-town roleblocks in the game or there is (another) town RB in the game who blocked someone (RG??) and isn't stepping forward?
No reason to think Red Gary was blocked.

If Stalin had the
balls
intestinal fortitude
insight to target Cupcake last night to follow him, why is it hard to believe someone else did too?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:43 am
by PeregrineV
In post 5938, Titan wrote:
In post 5936, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 5931, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 5926, PeregrineV wrote:He could be scum with Breakfast if she is the Messenger Godfather Rocleblocking Ninja. She could be faking everything, and he could be backing her up.

Do you think that's likely? Not possible, but likely?
What? Stalin is confirmed because I have a PM in my inbox saying they aren't a replica. Im confirmed because JSU was able to track me to stalin last night.

How does CF fit into this?
Stalin claimed to have sent Carbon a message with the results from your night1 action. You claimed you went no where. Stalin claimed to follow you, Carbon claims a message that says you went no where.

If Katsuki + Carbon are scum, why oh fucking why does Carbon confirm you did ?
Because if AP gets lynched and flips town, they're both toast?

Why would he lie?
If Carbon-scum were trying to lynch AP-town with Katsuki-scum, Carbon-scum would lie about AP's night1 target. It would clinch the case on AP, Stalin-town wouldn't know the result so can't counterclaim, and when AP-town flips his results are not given, just what he claimed. Carbon-scum then spins it for another day since 90% of the players think he is town anyway, and scum win.

Why would he not?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:45 am
by PeregrineV
In post 5934, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5930, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 5912, CarbonFiber wrote:
In post 5908, Nachomamma8 wrote:We're not lynching AP today, sorry Falcon.
In post 5910, AngryPidgeon wrote:I feel like Im just being a voice lost in the wind about him.
---

I get that we probably won't lynch him over Cupcake considering Desp-BRO seemingly confirming him.

I am talking more about the fact that no one besides AP/Cupcake is going to be lynched today - at all. I find it unlikely this day will end in anything other than Cupcake being lynched.
I disagree. I would prefer one of the other 5.
Why?
Lack of towniness.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:48 am
by Nachomamma8
Despite the role results?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:49 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 5939, PeregrineV wrote:why is it hard to believe someone else did too?
What does this even mean?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:49 am
by Breakfast With Sandy
Nacho, would it fail if I sent you the results tonight?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:50 am
by PeregrineV
In post 5942, Nachomamma8 wrote:Despite the role results?

My bad. Whose results did I miss?
In post 5880, PeregrineV wrote:1 nachomamma8
2 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir and DV)
4 Magenta_thegreat (mara and orci) 4 orcinus_theoriginal
13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience)
16 Penguin_Alien

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:50 am
by The Fox and the Hound
In post 5915, Nachomamma8 wrote:Do you think you've been town this game? Be honest.
I don't. I think I haven't had a halfway decent suspect since I decided to rethink Mastin. Other than Cupcake I have essentially no idea who the scum are. I half feel like it's an all town block + Cupcake scum team or something just running the game, because right now nothing actually makes sense to me. I feel like the mockery I call reads are total shit and I might as well ask random.org what to do.
In post 5916, Nachomamma8 wrote:It's also not a lack of caution: you're getting POE'd out pretty strongly at this point of time. If you haven't seen that happen to people before, well.
Of course I have. It feels kind of like being locked out of a survivor game, where I'm just sitting around hoping something will magically change and it doesn't. Let me ask you something. When have I ever sucked this much and not been town? Figuratively never. This whole game is happening on some other plane miles above my head and has been for days. I know saying that isn't going to solve anything, especially seeing as whining is like 40% of what I've done this game. I feel like I'm being pretty childish right now but I don't actually care.

Yeah, I'm not DV. I guess you're trying to make me go away rather than trying to actually consider things. Not that I've ever known how to respond to reachouts anyway.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:52 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 5944, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Nacho, would it fail if I sent you the results tonight?
Yes.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:52 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 5945, PeregrineV wrote:My bad. Whose results did I miss?
:igmeou:

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:53 am
by PeregrineV
In post 5943, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5939, PeregrineV wrote:why is it hard to believe someone else did too?
What does this even mean?
Cupcake thinks Angry is scum because he wasn't delayed, and is therefore faking his results.

Angry thinks Cupcake is scum because Cupcake is saying Angry is scum because he wasn't delayed.

Angry could be town with actual results and Cupcake could be town but roleblocked.

The above sentence seems to be being dismissed out of hand.

So, it means,
Angry could be town with actual results and Cupcake could be town but roleblocked.