In post 5922, Medea the Alien wrote:You clearly value yourself more than a generic town asset as you're unwilling to be woodchippered to prevent the alt wincon trigger, so start giving fucks and playing the game because with your refusal we're in "have to hit corrupter" mode and you seem to straight up not care.
This.
I'm townreading you guys, but your reactions to the gamestate give me hives.
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@Rhea with AA9 towning it up some in her pre and post "hammer" posts, the gamestate has shifted, which puts Annie in the frame for me.
He won't hammer us, which means focusing on other-scum today, but I won't be gritting my teeth in the dead thread over it if he's run up day 5.
In post 5922, Medea the Alien wrote:You clearly value yourself more than a generic town asset as you're unwilling to be woodchippered to prevent the alt wincon trigger, so start giving fucks and playing the game because with your refusal we're in "have to hit corrupter" mode and you seem to straight up not care.
This.
I'm townreading you guys, but your reactions to the gamestate give me hives.
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:04 am
by ArcAngel9
Unvote
Now i need to think again!
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:08 am
by Medea the Alien
In post 5926, Snarky Fishes wrote:He won't hammer us, which means focusing on other-scum today, but I won't be gritting my teeth in the dead thread over it if he's run up day 5.
Do you think any actual scum will hammer you? What's your recommendation if none of Annie/unwnd/Lukewarm will hammer you?
In post 5919, Here There Be Dragons wrote:i've spent 0 time thinking about that. clearly dunn and snarky were here, as well as you and spiffeh but those two seem like impossibilities. i don't know what yalls sleep schedules are like though.
Uh, last night we went to bed around 11PM ish central?
Sleep is something to be attempted not something guaranteed for me, though.
sorry that checking timestamps against sleep patterns plays no role in how i approach mafia
yes i'm checked out there are a lot of reasons for that
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:14 am
by Here There Be Dragons
In post 5922, Medea the Alien wrote:You clearly value yourself more than a generic town asset as you're unwilling to be woodchippered to prevent the alt wincon trigger, so start giving fucks and playing the game because with your refusal we're in "have to hit corrupter" mode and you seem to straight up not care.
a generic town asset? hardly
i just do not accept the idea that we can't hit scum today
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:16 am
by Here There Be Dragons
In post 5926, Snarky Fishes wrote:I'm townreading you guys, but your reactions to the gamestate give me hives.
im put off by everything about the way this game has gone. im not going to do another emotions post.
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:25 am
by Lukewarm
I guess it just feels like you should either be hardcore trying to solve OR willing to utilize mechanics to try and save the game.
So the fact that you are both abjectly refusing to go with the plan and you are "checked out" is a bit... :/
(and, btw The Plan involves the fishes also being willing to die to try and pull out the win for the town, and they are on board)
In post 5926, Snarky Fishes wrote:He won't hammer us, which means focusing on other-scum today, but I won't be gritting my teeth in the dead thread over it if he's run up day 5.
Do you think any actual scum will hammer you? What's your recommendation if none of Annie/unwnd/Lukewarm will hammer you?
--PA
Run us up anyway. We can hammer ourselves if it comes to that.
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:26 am
by Snarky Fishes
i.e. getting demonized tonight is not an option.
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:27 am
by Here There Be Dragons
In post 5933, Lukewarm wrote:I guess it just feels like you should either be hardcore trying to solve OR willing to utilize mechanics to try and save the game.
So the fact that you are both abjectly refusing to go with the plan and you are "checked out" is a bit... :/
(and, btw The Plan involves the fishes also being willing to die to try and pull out the win for the town, and they are on board)
i'm not going to make a play that i think sucks just because i'm tilted and having a bad time. playing to win condition is sacred. in sum, deal with it
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:27 am
by Snarky Fishes
But lukewarm has said he's willing to hammer us, so.
In post 5933, Lukewarm wrote:I guess it just feels like you should either be hardcore trying to solve OR willing to utilize mechanics to try and save the game.
So the fact that you are both abjectly refusing to go with the plan and you are "checked out" is a bit... :/
(and, btw The Plan involves the fishes also being willing to die to try and pull out the win for the town, and they are on board)
i'm not going to make a play that i think sucks just because i'm tilted and having a bad time. playing to win condition is sacred. in sum, deal with it
If you look at like, any of the arguments around the plan, I am pretty sure that going through with the plan IS playing to your win condition.
In post 5926, Snarky Fishes wrote:He won't hammer us, which means focusing on other-scum today, but I won't be gritting my teeth in the dead thread over it if he's run up day 5.
Do you think any actual scum will hammer you? What's your recommendation if none of Annie/unwnd/Lukewarm will hammer you?
--PA
Run us up anyway. We can hammer ourselves if it comes to that.
I believe that unwnd has said they would consider hammering the fishes?
If both of the others refuse, I will do it, but :/
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:33 am
by Lukewarm
Why? What is the scenario where voting for someone directly is better then my plan.
That is my biggest issue, is that it seems like you (and not just you, others too) dismiss the plan, but never actually explain why it is worse. Or why it is "playing against your win con" as you put it
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:35 am
by Lukewarm
In post 5941, Lukewarm wrote:Why? What is the scenario where voting for someone directly is better then my plan.
That is my biggest issue, is that it seems like you (and not just you, others too) dismiss the plan, but never actually explain why it is worse. Or why it is "playing against your win con" as you put it
Like I have outlined repeatedly, if your solve it right, we win either way. EVEN IF MY PLAN FAILS.
But, if your solve is wrong, then voting for someone outright loses on the spot, but my plan gives us a chance to regroup.
Like, if you were to agree to the plan, you would be able to dictate the exact solve that we try to go with, if that is what it would take for you to get on board :/
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:35 am
by Here There Be Dragons
in my heart of hearts i really think it's just somehow medea and dunnstral so it's hard to get into anything else
please don't reiterate the mechanical reasons this is impossible at me i heard you
In post 5941, Lukewarm wrote:Why? What is the scenario where voting for someone directly is better then my plan.
That is my biggest issue, is that it seems like you (and not just you, others too) dismiss the plan, but never actually explain why it is worse. Or why it is "playing against your win con" as you put it
Like I have outlined repeatedly, if your solve it right, we win either way. EVEN IF MY PLAN FAILS.
But, if your solve is wrong, then voting for someone outright loses on the spot, but my plan gives us a chance to regroup.
Like, if you were to agree to the plan, you would be able to dictate the exact solve that we try to go with, if that is what it would take for you to get on board :/
i am fine with snarky and scum dying, but i'm not scum and scum won't hammer them, so like who cares
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:37 am
by Lukewarm
In post 5943, Here There Be Dragons wrote:in my heart of hearts i really think it's just somehow medea and dunnstral so it's hard to get into anything else
please don't reiterate the mechanical reasons this is impossible at me i heard you
Hell, we could go with my plan, and if it works we kill medea tomorrow just to be sure.
It buys us the miselims to check for something like that x.x
In post 5941, Lukewarm wrote:Why? What is the scenario where voting for someone directly is better then my plan.
That is my biggest issue, is that it seems like you (and not just you, others too) dismiss the plan, but never actually explain why it is worse. Or why it is "playing against your win con" as you put it
Like I have outlined repeatedly, if your solve it right, we win either way. EVEN IF MY PLAN FAILS.
But, if your solve is wrong, then voting for someone outright loses on the spot, but my plan gives us a chance to regroup.
Like, if you were to agree to the plan, you would be able to dictate the exact solve that we try to go with, if that is what it would take for you to get on board :/
i am fine with snarky and scum dying, but i'm not scum and scum won't hammer them, so like who cares
This response did not engage with the point. Like at all.
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:39 am
by Spiffeh
If unwnd does not hammer Snarky I will be limming him outright.
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:42 am
by unwnd
So do you want to feel personally responsible or collectively for mislimming me then? (:
In post 5941, Lukewarm wrote:Why? What is the scenario where voting for someone directly is better then my plan.
That is my biggest issue, is that it seems like you (and not just you, others too) dismiss the plan, but never actually explain why it is worse. Or why it is "playing against your win con" as you put it
Like I have outlined repeatedly, if your solve it right, we win either way. EVEN IF MY PLAN FAILS.
But, if your solve is wrong, then voting for someone outright loses on the spot, but my plan gives us a chance to regroup.
Like, if you were to agree to the plan, you would be able to dictate the exact solve that we try to go with, if that is what it would take for you to get on board :/
i am fine with snarky and scum dying, but i'm not scum and scum won't hammer them, so like who cares
This response did not engage with the point. Like at all.
the idea that anyone will listen to a dead player is just comedy