Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[Nero Cain]

I gotta feelin

is it more than a feeling?

[MonkeyMan576]

let's not rolefish.

[SCP 682]

the only role I would show as red to is occultist and I am clear from the guilty it would show. so no, it isn't a role soft.

[Sword of Ducks]

I gotta feelin

is it more than a feeling?

unfortunately, no, it is not.

[Nero Cain]

let's not rolefish.

it was actually a kinda lame joke

[MonkeyMan576]

ah...

[MalcolmTucker]

Alright, caught up with D2 so far after being very, very behind. I TR'd Flavor for most of D1 but I believe Monkey's claim and I think it's unlikely here that neither team went for a kill, or that their kill clashed with Flavor killing Catboi. I'm just fundamentally struggling to see a world where Flavor isn't scum here going forward.

Also - Monkey raised this possibility briefly but is there a chance SCP/Flavor can be a team together here? Their argument D1 started to spill on for so long that I can't remember specifics but despite Flavor getting annoyed at SCP seemingly taking different stances to them deliberately to provoke, I don't think they actually potentially SR'd each other and it's not beyond the realms of possibility they are working together here?

Flavor says SCP would have pushed Catboi more, but if they are teammates is it not possible SCP didn't do this deliberately since Flavor was already doing the work there? It'd also kinda make sense to allow SCP to then distance themselves from the kill when it was made.

VOTE: FlavorLeaf

[MalcolmTucker]

Menalque is also increasingly suspicious to me now. If I remember correctly they were keen on the Bnuuy wagon D1 and it did get ramped up for a bit as a possible alternative to Catboi. Felt like the sort of wagon scum could easily push - Bnuuy hadn't said too much at that point and it did get some momentum very quickly, but it feels unlikely that Bnuuy is scum as a consequence.

[Nashville Dreams]

Also - Monkey raised this possibility briefly but is there a chance SCP/Flavor can be a team together here?

No. This just plummeted you in my reads. FL and SCP do not fight for control of the thread to that extent if teamed.

Also, I still feel Meg should be the elimination, but I'm not about to turn this into yesterday again. I don't have a TR on CSF.

VOTE: CSF

[SCP 682]

there is now a concentrated effort to remove FL as a vig intentionally by pretending the guilty is solid

it really is interesting how scum like to scumclaim. the people who are simply being foolish and not interpreting the report correctly and the info available are obvious and those being bad faith to remove the vig are also clear.


Malcom confirmed himself as scum.

[SCP 682]

also today is mothers day and I will be busy at my parent's place pretty much all day, so not gonna be around.

[Enchant]

Let's lemon Keeper.

[Menalque]

VOTE: meg

[MalcolmTucker]

Also - Monkey raised this possibility briefly but is there a chance SCP/Flavor can be a team together here?

No. This just plummeted you in my reads.

FL and SCP do not fight for control of the thread to that extent if teamed.

Also, I still feel Meg should be the elimination, but I'm not about to turn this into yesterday again. I don't have a TR on CSF.

VOTE: CSF

I agree it's somewhat unlikely but was exploring the possibility. Fundamentally I've not really been TR'ing SCP from going through posts recently but they are just very hard to read due to their style. But if Flavor is scum which I think they are SCP is then not.

[SCP 682]

Also - Monkey raised this possibility briefly but is there a chance SCP/Flavor can be a team together here?

No. This just plummeted you in my reads.

FL and SCP do not fight for control of the thread to that extent if teamed.

Also, I still feel Meg should be the elimination, but I'm not about to turn this into yesterday again. I don't have a TR on CSF.

VOTE: CSF

I agree it's somewhat unlikely but was exploring the possibility. Fundamentally I've not really been TR'ing SCP from going through posts recently but they are just very hard to read due to their style. But if Flavor is scum which I think they are SCP is then not.

Why is flavor scum?

[SCP 682]

sort by postcount is incredibly effective in large games usually especially with such high scum counts btw - as long as you apply a little critical thinking, it becomes clear that scum are just trying to let townies fight eachother at key moments.

I do implore people look at who *wasn't* talking at all for an extended period while people were fighting eachother later on.

I'm wary to go just on post-count but it could be useful in some scenarios here given I'm not reading any of Flavor/Catboi/Well Done as scum at the moment despite their arguments dominating the game.

x

[MalcolmTucker]

Also - Monkey raised this possibility briefly but is there a chance SCP/Flavor can be a team together here?

No. This just plummeted you in my reads.

FL and SCP do not fight for control of the thread to that extent if teamed.

Also, I still feel Meg should be the elimination, but I'm not about to turn this into yesterday again. I don't have a TR on CSF.

VOTE: CSF

I agree it's somewhat unlikely but was exploring the possibility. Fundamentally I've not really been TR'ing SCP from going through posts recently but they are just very hard to read due to their style. But if Flavor is scum which I think they are SCP is then not.

Why is flavor scum?

I outlined why I think they are above. Unlikely neither scum team killed overnight or that they happened to clash with a Flavor vig kill. I agree with Monkey here that on balance of things it's incredibly unlikely Flavor is town.

[MalcolmTucker]

sort by postcount is incredibly effective in large games usually especially with such high scum counts btw - as long as you apply a little critical thinking, it becomes clear that scum are just trying to let townies fight eachother at key moments.

I do implore people look at who *wasn't* talking at all for an extended period while people were fighting eachother later on.

I'm wary to go just on post-count but it could be useful in some scenarios here given I'm not reading any of Flavor/Catboi/Well Done as scum at the moment despite their arguments dominating the game.

x

You can quite clearly see in my vote post why my read on Flavor has changed.

[SCP 682]

So only for mechanical reasons where it is still viable for FL to be town?

What are the dayplay reasons?

[SCP 682]

btw cheers for scumclaiming

[MalcolmTucker]

So only for mechanical reasons where it is still viable for FL to be town?

What are the dayplay reasons?

It's viable but an incredibly slim chance. Primarily for mechanical reasons yes, I've not particularly SR'd Flavor's play so far then I didn't with Catboi either.

[MalcolmTucker]

If it's seen as too big a risk I'd be happy to consider Mena for the reasons outlined above. I don't have much in the way of thoughts on Meg yet but would need to case them before voting there, however I've certainly not been defensive of their slot so far.

[MalcolmTucker]

Perfectly entitled to SR me (my play has been a bit rubbish this game, fundamentally been moving too quickly for me to keep up) but I think it's perfectly reasonable to vote Flavor based on the info we have. Several players have now done so, do you think all of them are scum?

[MalcolmTucker]

Who in particular do you reckon I should be ISO'ing here? As I say been majorly behind and not got a strong grip on the game but if you want me on side, happy to take a look through individual players who you reckon are worth casing.

[bnuuy]

I think FL having claimed his ability in the monastery at night is potentially a sign he’s town
Ducks/cass, thoughts?