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Honestly, The tracker is looking scum too.

By bell being a Strongman, you just mean he's lying, yeah?

Yes

Brian I was going to say, that my issue with unwnd slot on day 2 was from vibing with muffin on not wanting to deal with the other thread. I didn't get why unwnd listed the other thread as a major part of their replace out. Knowing that they are a cross-thread neighborizor actually makes their rep out more comprehensible for town given that unlike everyone else in this thread, they actually did need to engage with the other thread, and so their frustration with that thread is actually probably townier now that we know how the slot's role works. Basically with what I know now a lot of the issues I had with unwnd middling through day 2 make more sense knowing the role, so I actually think that unwnd is townier post-claim that pre-claim for me. I was mostly just seeing if you could engage more with me there, because one of the things that *caused* unwnd frustration was unwnd's sense that his LLD scumread was not getting engagement in the other thread. Given your interactions with LLD is still probably the worst(?) element about your slot I was kinda hoping to see whether you had been townreading unwnd in part because of that interaction but it seems like you're jut not really focusing on the specific developments of unwnd or why unwnd was doing or feeling the way he did.

-E

In post 5912, Gypyx wrote:

In post 5905, superbowl9 wrote:POE and you don't seem solvey as usual gyp

I would expect you to be putting out scenarios etc. more, you're more of an in-thread thinker

as i said at the start i'm trying to kinda change my playstyle around, and not sure i qualify as an in-thread thinker usually but if you say so

Yeah its just meta but im not pushing you just wouldn't mind your flip. We have much better options today though

In post 5928, Brian Skies wrote:I think Bell is probably just lying here.

Why

We seem to just default to bell lying when actually almost every person in this thread could just be lying

everyone could be lying isn't a solve, though

^This is what I mean when I say you're unhelpful

In post 5953, Hench Princesses wrote:I was mostly just seeing if you could engage more with me there, because one of the things that *caused* unwnd frustration was unwnd's sense that his LLD scumread was not getting engagement in the other thread. Given your interactions with LLD is still probably the worst(?) element about your slot I was kinda hoping to see whether you had been townreading unwnd in part because of that interaction but it seems like you're jut not really focusing on the specific developments of unwnd or why unwnd was doing or feeling the way he did.

In post 3648, Brian Skies wrote:I'm actually not huge on Dunn being town. I need to revisit unwnd's posts this game. I townbinned unwnd early based on early effort, but I wasn't a huge fan of him opposing the potential of a townblock early and I guess I can sorta see a player replacing out in frustration as either alignment.

I've definitely at least mentioned unwnd's frustration before, which I was originally leaning town on.

Why do you think my interactions with LLD are the worst thing about my slot?

In post 6954, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:One day Pooky signed up for a game of mafia.

he was very very excited.

He was dealt a red role pm, that made him less excited but he put on a brave face.

His mafia buddy was someone he had never played with before!

After saying hello and exchanging ideas, Pooky and his new best friend set out to fool the town.

Except late at night Pooky's new friend took out a gun and shot Pooky in the back of the head.

He then murdered everyone else in the town.

He was a bad bad man who had psychotic hopes of murderizing everyone because he was never hugged as a child.

Wtf?

In post 6952, petapan wrote:tell me a sad story pooky

Oh, okay, but still.

idk seems like if you are scum, that could very easily be light-handed s/s theater? the other thing was your boon read but having a paradoxical read of boon is not in and of itself something I'd scumread you for, so you kinda fossing lld but never seeming to care about it in a meaningful way and not really interested in engaging the other slots that agreed with you on that read (titus, unwnd) would be a problem.

mostly though I'd like to find you even stronger town after titus had you as her top fos and you're not really like, giving that to me right now

In post 6959, Firebringer wrote:

In post 6958, petapan wrote:i mean like if you think they're scum, do you think they're trying to smuggle their partners as townreads or what

ohhh i think they are just focused on fooling deacon and being townread enough to pass through game.

i don't invest much in thoughts about higher level scum plans.

In post 6961, Firebringer wrote:well i think my townread on ceph was pretty shallow to begin with. like i originally thought "ohh scum cephrir would show more difficulty posting" and ceph even said that wasnt true and the more i think about it this could be that ali vs pine game ceph. and the sorry fact the most defining aspect of ceph town game is hating to play the game. which i don't feel is here.

I think i more wanted ceph/caabd to be town over deacon cause i don't really like deacon. But i think deacon is overall probably way more likely town

I vibe with this.

This is the exact same impression I get of Ceph and how I feel like Cephhydra would go about this game if they were scum here.

In post 5962, Hench Princesses wrote:the other thing was your boon read

That guy claimed I was some scum mastermind trying to stack one thread and removing all the scum from the other even though we explained it to him that scum doing so would confirm an entire thread as town.

And then he claimed I sent Pooky over there to deal with him even though that turnstile wasn't pushed by either of us.

So, no, I'm not apologizing for that read.

In post 5962, Hench Princesses wrote:mostly though I'd like to find you even stronger town after titus had you as her top fos and you're not really like, giving that to me right now

I don't have to give you anything.

It's a shame Titus wasn't scum, but that doesn't make me any less town than before. And I'm very solidly out of my scumrange anyway.

In post 5962, Hench Princesses wrote:idk seems like if you are scum, that could very easily be light-handed s/s theater?

LLD's in the other thread.

I can call her scum all I want, but most of them are townreading her to some degree and I'm not an expert at reading her anyway.

In post 7014, petapan wrote:btw was this just a lie or what

yep

last time I fakeclaimed miller I ate a n1 kill because scum thought I was covering stronger power (which... I was), so I was hoping miller claim would get me killed tbh. also sometimes you can get good reactions from a miller fakeclaim and/or check rolecops. additionally it's telling cops not to check you which, given I want to be able to solve the game, is generally good. I actually find there to be very little reason to not claim miller as vt, although the larger philosophy of vts lying about their role in RVS is probably not productive to this gamestate right now

the downside was that I actually went through the hassle of crafting a miller fakeclaim just as a way to get a handle on the setup but this actually hurt me when it came to shelly's claim since I thought it was really clear that "tenet operative" was specifically a vt claim so when she bungled her claim it really really clearly seemed like a scumclaim

In post 5964, Brian Skies wrote:That guy claimed I was some scum mastermind trying to stack one thread and removing all the scum from the other even though we explained it to him that scum doing so would confirm an entire thread as town.

And then he claimed I sent Pooky over there to deal with him even though that turnstile wasn't pushed by either of us.

So, no, I'm not apologizing for that read.

I wasn't really asking you to, and actually that wasn't the part that was weird about your iso I think, more the finding him town early and then sorta seeming to forget you'd found him town later but I think that was a shitpost so I wasn't reading too much into it, I'm just remembering shit I already commented on in the first part of my iso dive

why do you think this game is outside your scumrange?

In post 1809, Brian Skies wrote:Oh no.

Flavor Leaf could be town.

The horror.

I think it was more this post that was clearly a joke, but a joke that seemed to imply you weren't already townreading him. It was just kinda a weird joke to make given your preceding takes on boon in your iso, not necessarily scummy, but I was also trying to understand why Titus might scumread you incorrectly while her being town and this was one of the posts that was helping me understand her POV. I think it just is weird or was specific to a certain context that I no longer remember

Because I assure you scum me would 1) not be paying anywhere near as much attention to this game as I have been, 2) not have posted nearly as much as I have been, and 3) had thoughts to the depth as they have been. Also, the fact that scum don't wanna 1v1 me right now pretty much shows that as well because I'd shred them to pieces.

I'm pretty sure you mentioned a post in an earlier isodive of me saying something about Flavor being town, which is what I think you were referring to here. That was sarcasm. I was poking fun at the other thread.

This isn't the first time I've mislimmed Titus. It probably won't be the last.

yeah, so really putting boon aside because I don't actually have an issue with that trajectory, a scum brian world is:
-whoops you probably townread scum that got turnstiled and maybe your reads were part of why one of the scum got turnstiled over getting flipped (but I myself am also probably guilty of this at this point, more just something we do need to grapple with)
-your lld interaction seemed kinda weird, which you explain by just not caring about the other thread that much, but I guess I find that more concerning insofar as you might have 'vibed' with Titus if you were having the same takes on the other thread as her and that you didn't see the overlap in your takes... idk, maybe it's too contingent on your investment in the game to be scummy. It's more, what a world of scumbrian looks like rather than something that really changes my read of you

can you expand on your current reasoning on sb9?

I was vibing with Titus regarding SB9 and LLD. It's why I agreed with Deacon about liking her in this game.

If she hadn't made up bullshit to push me, I probably would've left her alone after she claimed.

Also, to put things into perspective.

I wasn't around when Pooky eliminated Flavor Leaf.

I also wasn't around when Pooky got ran up for the turnstile. He actually hammered it during my catch-up.

So my reaction to both of those things were after the fact.