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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:55 pm
by Transcend
I'm town guys don't worry

Also implosion my post was a joke. No need to give a novel response to it.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:03 pm
by kraska77
Vote shannon then? She's the only one who hasn't been jailed

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:04 pm
by Transcend
But i got no motion on her oooo aaaaa

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:05 pm
by kraska77
But ninja maybe

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:06 pm
by Transcend
But maybe you're strongman >:)

No puppy treats if you're scum.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:11 pm
by kraska77
Hmph.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:41 pm
by implosion
A lonely motion detector does not justify a ninja.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:51 pm
by Zachstralkita
In post 5973, kraska77 wrote:I am reminded of these words...
In post 4478, Zachstralkita wrote: Anyways listen up gang the first game I played with Transcendscum, he acted powertown and him and Bacde led me around the whole game like a collared sex slave in Rotterdam.

LMFAO it was really true I'm still post-traumatic stressed from that

yo Transcend where the fuck that puppy filter @

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:52 pm
by implosion
I think the play here is lynch Transcend, if he flips town then A50 jailkeeps shannon. I think I misspoke earlier, right? shannon is the only one motion-cleared, and zach and kraska are jailkeep-cleared.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:55 pm
by implosion
I think the only reason I can remember to think Transcend was town was his being part of the Vedith blitz but that's less significant I think given that there were literally 0 scum on the wagon other than him, if he is the last scum. It's more than possible that he was simply clamoring to get onto the wagon so that there would be a busser. Although I haven't looked a ton at the vote's context.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:44 pm
by kraska77
If transcend is scum, what is he netting by killing dunn early? He could have left him to vig two more vt claims and this would be lylo

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:08 pm
by shannon
In post 5983, implosion wrote:I think the play here is lynch Transcend, if he flips town then A50 jailkeeps shannon. I think I misspoke earlier, right? shannon is the only one motion-cleared, and zach and kraska are jailkeep-cleared.

I am almost sure that A50 (JK) and Transcend (MD) are on opposite teams, and that the scum are one of A50 and Kraska.

A50's JK of Kraska has left her to suppose that I'm the only unchecked person left and therefore must be scum. Except that Transcend MDed me last night and got nothing. No problem for Kraska, she now thinks I'm a ninja. I'm unsure whether this is clever manipulation by A50, a push on a convenient option by Kraska, or team work.

The two could be working together, and with 4:2 remaining they'd need one mislynch and a NK for the win. They could have been trying to set me up for an easy mislynch today, but that Transcend MD-cleared me.

The other option is that Transcend is scum, but if he is he's running out of chances to fake a guilty on someone and still have a plausible explanation for previous nights. If he's scum he's alone, because a 4:2 split would have meant that he could have won by faking a guilty on me last night, thereby mislynching me today (3:2) and then a NK for the win. So Transcend is either solo scum, or all but conf town.

Which brings me back to A50 and Kraska...

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:24 pm
by kraska77
If shannon were town she would have been killed long ago
Zach and me were getting jailed so we were not NK options and boem was an easy potwntial mislynch. Shannon would have been a safe NK to make

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:25 pm
by kraska77
The recent NKs make more sense with a scumshannon premise than a scumpr premise

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:29 pm
by kraska77
And shannon could be a rb *shrugs*

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:33 pm
by implosion
In post 5987, kraska77 wrote:If shannon were town she would have been killed long ago
uh, what?

Over the dunnstral and varsoon kills that were made? I fail to see the logic here.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:42 pm
by kraska77
Varsoon kill feels like scum just ran out of options
With the way vts were being jailed and MDed every night, varsoon would have looked more suspicious. His kill also completely clears you, so for anyone who was entertaining the "maybe there are 2 scum left" line of thought, that's one possible team crossed and solo scum looks more and more likely now
Dunn would have continued to vig one of the vts each night, why would someone outside the vt pool kill him early?

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:00 pm
by Transcend
Ok here's my theory. Everyone is somewhat cleared in some way.

Zach was jailed

Kraska was jailed

Shannon was nm'd in MD report.

Implosion is clear because of flipped doctor and flipped nurse. (Doubt mafia has commuter, jailkeeper and mafia nurse which is now doctor).

All my reports have been accurate

A50 was supposedly "saved" or "jailed Zach" on n4 i think it was

Based on this the person to me who's least towny is A50.

VOTE: A50

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:03 pm
by kraska77
Except if a50 were scum, why were there 0 NKs on night 4? Implosion protected a50 so... a kill should have happened
Unless zach is scum and i dont think he is

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:11 pm
by kraska77
Do my posts not make sense or sth? I know i suck at explaining myself and always sound like I'm making weird mental jumps but I think Shannon makes most sense as last scum here :/

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:25 pm
by shannon
If *I* were scum, why were there no NK's on night 4?

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:32 pm
by Transcend
like i said this is the biggest mindfuck ever

i kinda have a feeling a50 coudl've nk'ed i legit can't see anyone else as scum besides him i really can't.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:36 pm
by shannon
In post 5989, kraska77 wrote:And shannon could be a rb *shrugs*
In post 5990, implosion wrote:
In post 5987, kraska77 wrote:If shannon were town she would have been killed long ago
uh, what?

Over the dunnstral and varsoon kills that were made? I fail to see the logic here.
Killing known PRs makes much more sense than killing VTs and hoping to find one. Especially someone like me, who has claimed VT since early, and exerted no real influence in terms of leading lynches and the like.

In post 5991, kraska77 wrote:Varsoon kill feels like scum just ran out of options
With the way vts were being jailed and MDed every night, varsoon would have looked more suspicious. His kill also completely clears you, so for anyone who was entertaining the "maybe there are 2 scum left" line of thought, that's one possible team crossed and solo scum looks more and more likely now
Dunn would have continued to vig one of the vts each night, why would someone outside the vt pool kill him early?
I don't quite get what you're saying about Varsoon, but his death means that now once the doc is gone, there are no more docs left for town. Leaving him alive, while it might have made him look suspicious (but would it really?), would have been a fail move for scum. This way, our JK (if indeed they are town) has to protect the doc, leaving all the rest of us unprotected until we can work out who's doing the killing.

One idea for Dunn's death is that his actions were indistinguishable from those of a SK, so a remaining mafia member might have wanted him gone just to ensure their own survival in case he was actually a SK?

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:37 pm
by shannon
Either A50 did the NK, or he pretended to jail Kraska and she did it.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:38 pm
by shannon
Can we afford two more lynches?